How to eliminate the "Islamic" violence?

[StMarkEofE]

Aquarius:

By Christians I mean baptized people who profess to follow Christ.

So, you think millions of Christians were riding with the KKK in spirit?

After the carpetbagging of the north Im sure that there were more than a few in spirit who were with the KKK.

And to believe that the masses of Muslims were not in spirit right up there with the loony fringe this past week you are only fooling yourself. There is more sympathy for this sort of acts of violence than you think. And why, well just listen to all the major Muslim country leaders in their condemnation of such acts.

Can you hear them…if you are real quiet you may hear a peep or two.

 

[Aquarius]

StMarkEofE:

After the carpetbagging of the north Im sure that there were more than a few in spirit who were with the KKK.

And to believe that the masses of Muslims were not in spirit right up there with the loony fringe this past week you are only fooling yourself. There is more sympathy for this sort of acts of violence than you think. And why, well just listen to all the major Muslim country leaders in their condemnation of such acts.

Can you hear them…if you are real quiet you may hear a peep or two.

So, a few Christians were in the spirit of the KKK, while the masses of Muslims were in the spirit of the rioters? Why can’t we say the masses of the Christians were with the KKK in spirit?

Lynchings were so frequent and lasted for such a long time, I have to ask about Chrstian sympathy for the KKK. The Christian leaders didn’t stop the lynchings.

Maybe the Muslim condemnations of the rioters are of the same decibel level as the Christian condemnation of the KKK?

 

[StMarkEofE]

Aquarius:

So, a few Christians were in the spirit of the KKK, while the masses of Muslims were in the spirit of the rioters? Why can’t we say the masses of the Christians were with the KKK in spirit?

Lynchings were so frequent and lasted for such a long time, I have to ask about Chrstian sympathy for the KKK. The Christian leaders didn’t stop the lynchings.

Maybe the Muslim condemnations of the rioters are of the same decibel level as the Christian condemnation of the KKK?

Maybe, the silence is deadening.

 

[Malachi4U]

As a former MARINE I can think of one way to solve the Islamic menace, but India and Pakistan would not like the radioactive fallout?

Now as a Christian I believe Jesus predicted the Protestant deformation and the Islamic violence. Jesus said His Church would be persecuted till the end of time. He said he would protect His Church too. Jesus will end the deformation and the Islamic violence when He returns to judge the living and the dead.
We must remember to forgive them. ALL religions have good and bad individuals in them. There are countless good Islamics and perhaps a few bad Catholics. SO… The one without sin cast the first suicide bomber…

There is enough hate on both sides, maybe a bit more terrorists, and murderers on theirs. (Of course my side is the right one though )

 

[Myangel]

deekod1967:

I wish Islam had their equivalent of our Pope, then he could simply excommunicate those who interpret the Quran incorrectly. At least there would be no confusion on what Islam is all about.

Just my tuppenceworth.

DD

DD, its a little off topic but I have to tell you, I LOVE the picture of the apparitions, they are amazing! :bounce:

 

[brotherhrolf]

Aquarius:

I don’t see the average Muslim taking to the streets either. I see Muslims in the street, but the vast, overwhelming majority are not. There are one billion Muslims. They are not all in the street.

You are quibbling over semantics. Empirically, there are far more Muslims on the streets protesting than there are Christians protesting the comments made by the Iranian president.

 

[Aquarius]

brotherhrolf:

You are quibbling over semantics. Empirically, there are far more Muslims on the streets protesting than there are Christians protesting the comments made by the Iranian president.

In that case, are we quibbling over numbers rather than semantics?

If there are more Muslims than Christians protesting recently does that mean the masses of Muslims support the rioters? How many MUslims have to protest before we can say the masses of Muslims support the protestors? How many Christians have to protest before we can say the masses of Christians support the protestors?

 

[brotherhrolf]

StMarkEofE:

If by Christian are you refering to Evangelicals and Pentecostals, Baptists? Maybe. It is important to remember that during the hey day of the KKK even the Honorable Senator Byrd from West Virginia held a high position in the KKK. So it must have been just more that a bunch of hulligans running amuk and setting fires all over the place. I will never defend these despicable people but to some this was a union, a lodge a brotherhood to the most poor of white people. We dont condone what they did but it may be helpful to understand why this organization even got started after the civil war.

I’m gonna stop this one dead in its tracks right here, right now. I live in a civil parish in Louisiana in which the KKK is still active. I saw a bumper sticker with a picture of Nathan Bedford Forest on it with the statement “Ride with the Best” on the bumper of a truck at a convience store. How many people would recognize a) a portrait of Nathan Bedford Forest and what it means or b) the subliminal message of the KKK. Yours truly did.(Oh, yeah, Nathan Bedford Forest was the founder of the KKK and a Confederate Civil War General) Yours truly is a Catholic living in a predominately fundamentalist area. I don’t need you guys lecturing me about something I know all too intimately. Hey, we’re witches because we burn votive candles per my neighbors across the street. Y’all can do the research and look up not only the KKK but the Knights of the White Camellia - neither of which were Catholic organizations.

I am Christian. I am Catholic and me and my family endure daily the burden of our faith. I really take umbrage against your statements Aquarius. Unless you show me that you have a thorough and competent understanding of history your words are the words of a nithing - go look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls.

 

[Rachel_Malloy]

Get back on track folks.

Rachel

 

[StMarkEofE]

Joseph_Alison:

Salaam everyone.

-What do you think is the best approach to contain the “Islamic” violence?

Thanks.

Salaam.
Joseph.

1. Eliminate Islamic fundamentialism pure and simple.
2. Adopt western forms of government. It seems that the less fortunate have none or little say in how government is run in the middle east.
3. Democratization of how governments are run.
4. Insist on Religious freedom and the freedom to practice one’s faith.
5. Laws to protect the minorities and the force to make sure it is carried out.

This would be a good start.

 

[grotto]

I’m sure the MSM wouldn’t pass up on interviewing all the Muslims living and enjoying the First Amendment here in the US denouncing the murderous destruction by their brothers in the MidEast! They would be out there with their sattelite trucks and teams of reporters if there was one mosque’s worth of voices demanding it stop! I don’t see any - nope - nothing coming from Dearborn, Michigan - guess there aren’t any folks that disagree with their method of behavior!

Maybe bumper stickers would be helpful?

 

[melbourne_guy]

I would personally like to hear how the author of this post would go about stopping islamic violence.

 

[Lance]

Islam is not now nor has it ever been a religion of peace. It has been at war with someone from the day of it’s inception. I doubt that Islam will ever live in peace with the rest of the world. If they are subjugated they will bide their time and slowly regain power and when they become powerful enough they will start to become violent again.

Just as they now bring up the crusades but never the cause of them, if we go to war with them and do not totally destroy their religion, 500 years from now they will bring up how Christians started a war with Islam and never mention their acts of terrorism. They will say they are a religion of peace and only the extreamist want war, blah, blah.

Do not be taken in by their lies.

 

[StMarkEofE]

Lance:

Islam is not now nor has it ever been a religion of peace. It has been at war with someone from the day of it’s inception. I doubt that Islam will ever live in peace with the rest of the world. If they are subjugated they will bide their time and slowly regain power and when they become powerful enough they will start to become violent again.

Just as they now bring up the crusades but never the cause of them, if we go to war with them and do not totally destroy their religion, 500 years from now they will bring up how Christians started a war with Islam and never mention their acts of terrorism. They will say they are a religion of peace and only the extreamist want war, blah, blah.

Do not be taken in by their lies.

Until there is a major seachange in the Islamic world these folks should not be trusted. Better to error on the side of caution than to be fooled in to a false sense of security.

 

[Aquarius]

brotherhrolf:

I’m gonna stop this one dead in its tracks right here, right now. I live in a civil parish in Louisiana in which the KKK is still active. I saw a bumper sticker with a picture of Nathan Bedford Forest on it with the statement “Ride with the Best” on the bumper of a truck at a convience store. How many people would recognize a) a portrait of Nathan Bedford Forest and what it means or b) the subliminal message of the KKK. Yours truly did.(Oh, yeah, Nathan Bedford Forest was the founder of the KKK and a Confederate Civil War General) Yours truly is a Catholic living in a predominately fundamentalist area. I don’t need you guys lecturing me about something I know all too intimately. Hey, we’re witches because we burn votive candles per my neighbors across the street. Y’all can do the research and look up not only the KKK but the Knights of the White Camellia - neither of which were Catholic organizations.

I am Christian. I am Catholic and me and my family endure daily the burden of our faith. I really take umbrage against your statements Aquarius. Unless you show me that you have a thorough and competent understanding of history your words are the words of a nithing - go look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls.

The point is that the KKK says it is a Christian organization, had Christian members, and thrived in a Christian nation. It says it is Christian. Sorry about your case or umbrage, but I’m not really sure what the point of your story is.

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[Al_Masetti]

We (We of Western Civilization) have actually done this quite a few times already.

The Arab / Muslim world was allied with the Nazis in WW2 (thus the descriptor: Islamofascists. They modeled their current political posture after the fascist model of the 1930’s.)

Hitler’s plan was to align with the Muslims in the Middle East and make a linkage up to the oil fields of southern Russia, etc. Freeze out the Brits and French. It didn’t work out.

During WW1, the Arab / Muslim world was allied with Germany. (read about Lawrence of Arabia). It didn’t work out.

After about 1800, the Muslims of north Africa irritated the Americans and Europeans sufficiently that military action was taken. The Barbary Pirates were active from around 1500 onward.

There were also successful major Christian efforts that blunted Muslim expansion: including the Crusades, the battle of Tours (Charles Martel), the expulsion from Spain in the 1490’s, the battle of Lepanto ( 1571), the battle of Vienna (1683).

So, we have done it before and we can do it again, but as before, it was different each time… and it will need to be done differently this time:

1. Remove all economic and financial resources. In this case, make oil really worthless… go with nuclear power universally for electricity. Add one or two reactors to each existing nuclear power plant… five years max. So-called alternative fuels are too small and or too expensive to be effective alternates. Geothermal is great if you live on a volcano, but then you MAY have other “issues”.
2. Make as many things as possible electric. For example, many railroads, including freight lines were once electric (with overhead catenaries). We could do it again. Encourage the use of electric heat (using heat pump technology). Replace conventional lighting with LED’s for a 95% power reduction.
3. Maximize domestic gas production. Geopressurized methane was once a topic of great interest. There may be a lot of it. Dig out the MOPPS-1 study. [In the interest of political correctness, it got replaced by the MOPPS-2 study, if memory serves.]
4. Christianity needs to proselitize extensively in all countries that are not Muslim monopolies. And by EWTN, the internet and word of mouth and surreptitiously in exclusively Muslim countries.

 

[Aquarius]

Lance:

Islam is not now nor has it ever been a religion of peace. It has been at war with someone from the day of it’s inception. I doubt that Islam will ever live in peace with the rest of the world. If they are subjugated they will bide their time and slowly regain power and when they become powerful enough they will start to become violent again.

Just as they now bring up the crusades but never the cause of them, if we go to war with them and do not totally destroy their religion, 500 years from now they will bring up how Christians started a war with Islam and never mention their acts of terrorism. They will say they are a religion of peace and only the extreamist want war, blah, blah.

Do not be taken in by their lies.

One does not have to use the Crusades as an example of Christian violence. A much better example is the hundreds of years Christians have been slaughtering each other. Religion of peace?

I agree we should look at causes. .What was the cause of the slaughter of every man, woman, and child in Jerusalem by the Christian Crusaders marching under the Cross and commissioned by the pope?

 

[Franze]

Aquarius:

Christianity has a long history of violence. Why would Christianity change anything? It hasn’t made Christians non-violent.

Don´t make me laugh, please, the most important is the doctrine not the sins of their members.

 

[Aquarius]

Franze:

Don´t make me laugh, please, the most important is the doctrine not the sins of their members.

Violence is done by people. They are members. Christians are very violent. Look at history and you will see how these Christians love one another. Religion of peace?

What good is a doctrine that doesn’t work?

 

[Booklover]

Aquarius:

Violence is done by people. They are members. Christians are very violent. Look at history and you will see how these Christians love one another. Religion of peace?

What good is a doctrine that doesn’t work?

Do you believe that Islam works? Tell us how wonderful you think Islam is. The rest of your comments don’t even merit a response.

Vickie

I wait with bated breath for your commentaries about the wonders of Islam!