How to eliminate the "Islamic" violence?

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Myangel:
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inJESUS:
👍 I am a little confused, what does History have to do with the original OP??? Yeah Christians have been violent in the past and some still are (individuals) today, but as inJesus stated above

Christians SHOULD follow Jesus’ teachings, love peace etc and when they dont, they turn their backs on God no matter how much they claim their crime is in the name of religion, Jesus’ teachings refute that.

Muslims follow the Quran which teaches that violence is OK against non muslims.
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The original post got hijacked by a poster who threw out an awful lot of statements which had no basis in historical reality. When challenged, the poster could not provide historical antecedants to back up his or her post. I supported my claims and reminded the poster that this thread is about Islamic not Christian violence.
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brotherhrolf:
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Myangel:
The original post got hijacked by a poster who threw out an awful lot of statements which had no basis in historical reality. When challenged, the poster could not provide historical antecedants to back up his or her post. I supported my claims and reminded the poster that this thread is about Islamic not Christian violence.
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:clapping: And a great job you did. I didnt mean anything against you, I just couldnt understand how the poster could compare christian and muslim violence. Violence is clearly WRONG for christians and we CAN admit it, for muslims its not wrong provided it against non muslims!

There is always one who has to go out of their way to hijack these posts. Keep up the good work brotherhrolf! 👍
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brotherhrolf said:
college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/rcah/html/ah_051100_kukluxklan.htm

Mock LSU all you want, my friend, but its history department was and is highly respected. Google the names of T. Harry Williams and William Cooper. Oh, and while you are at it you can mock the history department of UNO - Google the name of Stephen Ambrose. I had courses under all three. The Knights of the White Camellia and the KKK were started as political organizations NOT religious. I can back my statements with fact - something you seem curiously unable to do. But this thread is about Islamic violence not Christian. If you want to play the Christian violence game, start a new thread - there are more than a few of us on these forums who are knowledgeable about history.
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LSU used to have a fine football program. Since you chose to highlight your graduate level seminar, I thought it appropriate to continue where you left off.

Orgaizations can be political and religious. The KKK lasted far longer than its original conception, and outlasted Reconstruction. I’m sure the Williams, Cooper and Ambrose know that. And I’m sure they know the KKK considered itself to be a Christian organization. They also probably know it was made up of Christians.

This thread asks how to stop Islamic violence. I’d say we might learn from the success in eliminating Christian violence. I think Williams, Cooper, and Ambrose would agree. Ask them.

(Did you know your link says the heyday of the KKK was in the 1920’s? Is that the Reconstruction period? I doubt the LSU history department would say so.)
 
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inJESUS:
wrong. Christianity IS a religion of peace. Jesus IS the symbol of peace; if Christians were not peaceful all the time, it has nothing to do with Christianity but with human sinfulness. Islam is not a religion of peace, its peaceful message is not clear and mohammad is far from being a symbol of peace.
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Christianity has everything to do with Christians and how they act. Same with Islam and Muslims. History shows us neither is a religion of peace.

Only people can act with violence. Christians are good at it. Muslims are good at it.
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brotherhrolf:
inJesus? If the poster cannot respond to an argument from a strictly historical point of view, any theological argument would perforce be “casting pearls before swine” as Scripture says. The message of the Gospel is one of peace. The message of the Koran is not. It is as basic as that.

The poster reminds me of my neighbors. “Do not confuse us with facts, we know what we know and you are witches”. You see, I do know what it is to live in an area where there is an active (although quite small) KKK chapter and I make no bones about my Catholicism. The KKK is not worried about me - no, they are far more worried about those black evacuees from New Orleans who, by the way, just happen to be Catholic. So, let’s not overload poor Aquarius. When he can come to grips with historical reality, then we can discuss theology with Aquarius.
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I seem to remember the Bible telling folks to stone people for picking up sticks on the sabbath. And that bit about stoning the kids for cursing the parents?

I’m glad the KKK doesn’t care about your Catholicism. So what?
 
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brotherhrolf:
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Myangel:
The original post got hijacked by a poster who threw out an awful lot of statements which had no basis in historical reality. When challenged, the poster could not provide historical antecedants to back up his or her post. I supported my claims and reminded the poster that this thread is about Islamic not Christian violence.
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This is like saying LSU still has a decent football team. All you did was reference history seminars. Is that what the LSU history department considers antecedents? (Love that word - antecedants. It has such a graduate level seminar ring to it.)
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Myangel:
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brotherhrolf:
:clapping: And a great job you did. I didnt mean anything against you, I just couldnt understand how the poster could compare christian and muslim violence. Violence is clearly WRONG for christians and we CAN admit it, for muslims its not wrong provided it against non muslims!

There is always one who has to go out of their way to hijack these posts. Keep up the good work brotherhrolf! 👍
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Well, try this for a comparison. The Christian Crusaders marching under the cross and commissioned by the pope slaughtered every man, woman, and child in Jerusalem. And they were guaranteed heavenly bliss by the pope if the died in battle.

Admittig violence does not mean one is non-violent.
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Aquarius:
LSU used to have a fine football program. Since you chose to highlight your graduate level seminar, I thought it appropriate to continue where you left off.

Orgaizations can be political and religious. The KKK lasted far longer than its original conception, and outlasted Reconstruction. I’m sure the Williams, Cooper and Ambrose know that. And I’m sure they know the KKK considered itself to be a Christian organization. They also probably know it was made up of Christians.

This thread asks how to stop Islamic violence. I’d say we might learn from the success in eliminating Christian violence. I think Williams, Cooper, and Ambrose would agree. Ask them.
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That is such a lame answer. Obviously you did not take the time to read the link which I posted. What part of this thread about Islamic violence don’t you understand? And no, if you had done the least bit of due diligence you would have known that Williams, Cooper, and Ambrose were champions of America. ( Hey, at least I would have expected you to recognize Stephen Ambrose - and no I am not going to give you a pass on this!)

Shame on you Aquarius! In my book you have created the most grievous sin someone who claims to know history can commit. You lack intellectual honesty. If you can’t support your claims with solid concrete facts…well, let me just lapse into medieval mode. The Norse had a concept that adequately describes your actions…it was a concept called “nithing”. I answered your claims with fact. Look up the concept of “nithing”. I won’t post anymore.
 
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brotherhrolf:
That is such a lame answer. Obviously you did not take the time to read the link which I posted. What part of this thread about Islamic violence don’t you understand? And no, if you had done the least bit of due diligence you would have known that Williams, Cooper, and Ambrose were champions of America. ( Hey, at least I would have expected you to recognize Stephen Ambrose - and no I am not going to give you a pass on this!)

Shame on you Aquarius! In my book you have created the most grievous sin someone who claims to know history can commit. You lack intellectual honesty. If you can’t support your claims with solid concrete facts…well, let me just lapse into medieval mode. The Norse had a concept that adequately describes your actions…it was a concept called “nithing”. I answered your claims with fact. Look up the concept of “nithing”. I won’t post anymore.
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If Williams, Cooper, and Ambrose are champions of America, can we presume they know how the Americans eliminated the violence of the Christians in the KKK?

Grievous sin? Let me lapse into medieval mode? Is that how they talk in LSU graduate level history seminars? I agree you probably won’t post anymore. (Do they wear tweed or overalls at LSU graduate level history seminars?)
 
I think your words speak volumes about you and your methodology. Good night to you. I proclaim you Nithing and I will have nothing more to do with you.
 
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Aquarius:
If Williams, Cooper, and Ambrose are champions of America, can we presume they know how the Americans eliminated the violence of the Christians in the KKK?

Grievous sin? Let me lapse into medieval mode? Is that how they talk in LSU graduate level history seminars? I agree you probably won’t post anymore. (Do they wear tweed or overalls at LSU graduate level history seminars?)
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you have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting…

Three cheers for the best suited proclimation of the evening…

a Nithing…so harsh, but fitting…so very fitting!

BTW, i am not here…that is my proclimation!
 
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