How to re-educate so that people will understand about abortion?

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Very few abortions are due to health reasons, rape, incest, or abnormalities: Many people
think that women obtain most abortions to save their lives or physical health, for rape and
incest, or to avoid birth defects. This is a fallacy that proabortion groups continue to
cultivate …
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Drawmack said:
then please do not refer to yourself as pro-life, abortion is the issue not life.
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The opposite of an abortion is a live birth.
If you are against an abortion, then you are for a life.

Sorry, there is no in-between there. You can’t be a little bit pregnant.
 
limerick

May i refer you to my post yesterday …i am a practising catholic and i thought i presented some practical ideas.Does this not answer youur post?In your post you stated everyone was busy name calling and such like.I think not please read my post & tell me what you think.
I do think you had a bit of a point though i wish people would get back on track as JRKH has stated.
God bless
 
allhers said:
This is another good one. Education is the key, then you can educate others with the facts
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So how do we feel of the graphic abortion procedure signs I have seen on various billboards and plastered up on some trucks.

Think they are effective at all?
 
Last but certainly not least, this site is full of a wealth of information to get educated about
it too.

Here is but one small example.

Even some Catholics don’t know that the Church has condemned abortion consistently, right from the earliest Christian centuries. These people (and many outside the Church) think the Church’s position developed over the years, starting out as mild disapproval, moving through repugnance, ending up only recently (historically speaking) in outright and universal condemnation.

It’s an interesting notion, but one not at all supported by the facts. If we look at what the Fathers said about abortion, we find they were not in the least unsure about what position a Catholic had to take.

Not a single Christian who wrote about abortion in the early years of the Church took an “I’m personally opposed, but . . .” stance.

Quite the opposite. Read through these quotations and see how sharp the writers were. No mincing of words here!
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vz71 said:
So how do we feel of the graphic abortion procedure signs I have seen on various billboards and plastered up on some trucks.

Think they are effective at all?
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I certainly hope so, some people NEED to see what abortion is in order to get it through
their thick heads that it really is taking the life of a child.

While I understand many people’s concerns for their children not seeing those kinds of pics, etc…I’ve heard all the arguments…some people think its okay for their children to hear all the “TRASH” that they do from some t.v. but they don’t want their child to see a pic like that. Please, I grew up when we had wonderful things on t.v. and horrible pics of war, slavery, etc…

Besides, they try to do all they can to avoid areas where children are just for those people who are sensitive to that. If you see it on a billboard, I’d like to know where, I’ve never seen one of those. (not saying it doesn’t exist or is a bad idea though).
 
vz71 said:
The opposite of an abortion is a live birth.
If you are against an abortion, then you are for a life.

Sorry, there is no in-between there. You can’t be a little bit pregnant.
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True. I once heard a very good Priest say, “If its not a baby, then your not pregnant”!!
 
vz71 said:
Proper phraseology means using the proper words for what they mean.
A wise man once said “Words mean things.”

Pro-life has taken to that because they advocate life.
Pro-Choice is attempting to take on that phrase to remove themselves from abortion in favor of a debate over women’s rights.

It doesn’t wash. The debate is not women’s rights, it is about basic human rights.
And the stakes are no less then life or death.
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Very true. The use of “choice”, in these contexts, is an attempt to devalue human life and redirect the argument.
 
vz71 said:
So how do we feel of the graphic abortion procedure signs I have seen on various billboards and plastered up on some trucks.

Think they are effective at all?
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I can’t say I’ve seen much in the way of “Graphic Procedure” signs so I’m not sure. I tend to think tha the more graphic things should be kept off of billboards as small children are too easily exposed to such things. The more graphic things should be kept for use in articles in magazines etc.
Of course I can’t deny that such graphic items will have a shock effect on those who see them and perhaps get many people to thinking about what is actually being aborted. In this sense I would think that the overall effect is more good than bad.

Peace
James
 
allhers said:
I certainly hope so, some people NEED to see what abortion is in order to get it through their thick heads that it really is taking the life of a child.

While I understand many people’s concerns for their children not seeing those kinds of pics, etc…I’ve heard all the arguments…some people think its okay for their children to hear all the “TRASH” that they do from some t.v. but they don’t want their child to see a pic like that. Please, I grew up when we had wonderful things on t.v. and horrible pics of war, slavery, etc…

Besides, they try to do all they can to avoid areas where children are just for those people who are sensitive to that. If you see it on a billboard, I’d like to know where, I’ve never seen one of those. (not saying it doesn’t exist or is a bad idea though).
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Actually, I think one better.
Rather then try to avoid area…specifically target areas.
Place a hundred foot poster right outside every abortion clinic.

I know to many that have read my posts in the past this may seem a reversal of position.
It is…a compromise.😉

I still object to the trucks, and the highway signs, and the randomly placed billboards.
But I well can see a specific target area here.

We hit the target audience, and parents know where they are and can shield their children from it if they so choose.
 
vz71 said:
Actually, I think one better.
Rather then try to avoid area…specifically target areas.
Place a hundred foot poster right outside every abortion clinic.

I know to many that have read my posts in the past this may seem a reversal of position.
It is…a compromise.😉

I still object to the trucks, and the highway signs, and the randomly placed billboards.
But I well can see a specific target area here.

We hit the target audience, and parents know where they are and can shield their children from it if they so choose.
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I think that it is another opportunity to educate. When one of my grand-daughters was about three, my daughter and I were looking at pictures of an ultra sound, my grand-daughter said in a very excited voice----“Look, Mama, look Grandma, thats a baby”!!!

Now, if a three year old can figure that out, why can’t everyone else?

I’ve seen ultra sounds blown up and outside of abortion mills.
 
vz71 said:
The opposite of an abortion is a live birth.
If you are against an abortion, then you are for a life.

Sorry, there is no in-between there. You can’t be a little bit pregnant.
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Really, I thought the opposite of abortion was not abortion. According to what you’ve just stated everything that isn’t life birth is abortion. I feel so horrible for all those women God has made sin by giving them miscarriages and still births.

The opposite of abortion is not terminating the pregnancy artificially, this does not always result in life birth.
 
vz71 said:
Proper phraseology means using the proper words for what they mean.
A wise man once said “Words mean things.”

Pro-life has taken to that because they advocate life.
Pro-Choice is attempting to take on that phrase to remove themselves from abortion in favor of a debate over women’s rights.

It doesn’t wash. The debate is not women’s rights, it is about basic human rights.
And the stakes are no less then life or death.
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Pro-Choice has taken that name because they advocate for the woman having a choice to terminate her pregnancy.

Pro-life advocate fetal rights, so their name should be pro-fetus.
 
If we want to properly educate people reagrding this crime against life then we need to reclaim the language and not let the anti life people manipulate the argument by using words that minimize what is going on and redirecting the argument away from the act.
 
Drawmack said:
Really, I thought the opposite of abortion was not abortion. According to what you’ve just stated everything that isn’t life birth is abortion. I feel so horrible for all those women God has made sin by giving them miscarriages and still births.

The opposite of abortion is not terminating the pregnancy artificially, this does not always result in life birth.
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Thankfully, those of us who have had miscarriages, live under no illusion, as some seem to offer, that we have been made to sin when we miscarried our babies. We realize that God is the author of life and that He is the only one who may call that life back to HIM at any time, He is the resurrection and the LIFE, afterall.

(I’m sure you meant to say live birth instead of life birth (I bolded and underlined it above), but nice slip there.)
 
fix said:
If we want to properly educate people reagrding this crime against life then we need to reclaim the language and not let the anti life people manipulate the argument by using words that minimize what is going on and redirecting the argument away from the act.
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I am pro-life because I respect life. I cannot respect life and disrespect the person sitting across the table from me. That would make me a hypocrite. In any fair debate neither side completely controls the language, to attempt to do this is to attempt to engage in an unfair debate. Why do you need an unfair debate if you’re right?
 
Drawmack said:
Pro-Choice has taken that name because they advocate for the woman having a choice to terminate her pregnancy.
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And this example shines forth of attempting to manipulate the argument through vocabulary.

The object of the argument has never been about choice, the object is about abortion.
Yet many would have us turn a blind eye to that in favor of using the word ‘choice’

So again we are left with the question…
Choose what?

Of course, in the quote above the question is almost answered, but it begs more questions. The answer is to choose to terminate her pregnancy.

So why not state abortion? Why go through all of the extra words?
Why does it appear that abortion is being avoided.

This is something else we need to educate everyone on.
Do not accept the premise. Words mean things, and one side cannot be allowed to soften the language that describes it.
The brutality of abortion is also apparent in the words that describe it.
Altering the vocabulary to soften this brutality should not be allowed.
 
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