How to react to a Spouse with Anger Issues

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Eating together is a big deal to me, and unless one of us is not home my husband and I have dinner together. We did this before kids, too. It would definitely feel like a slight to have my husband not come to dinner with me.

Now, we both feel like this, and grew up in families like this. I think the situation in the OP would be unlikely in our house because we’ve pretty much always had a set dinner time. Neither of us would be surprised about it or would think to turn the other down.
Yeah.

I’d feel like, what is the point of being married if it means winding up eating dinner alone even when your spouse is home?

I once was really upset with my husband because on our first vacation in two years (a whole whopping two days away from home), his plan was to skip the breakfast buffet at the hotel to save money while I took the three kids to breakfast by myself. I was very upset by that, and I didn’t initially have a good explanation for why, but eventually I realized it was for the following reasons: 1) having to manage the baby by myself was stressful for me 2) not getting any adult conversation was sad for me and 3) we hadn’t had a real vacation in a couple of years so I didn’t feel like one extra breakfast was going to break us and 4) he had had a business colleague to dinner the night before, talked business the whole time, and I had had to manage the baby by myself then, too 5) I felt abandoned by my husband 6) I am normally a bit starved for adult conversation and having the same thing happen on vacation was really sad.

My husband didn’t get that until I had a chance to think about it and realize what I found so objectionable about him not coming to breakfast with us. Actually, I didn’t get it either at first–I just knew that I was very upset by his plan, but I couldn’t explain why.

For the OP, it’s just really bad to create a situation where your wife feels like her husband isn’t there.
 
I didn’t read all of the responses–but op-here is my 2 cents.

Sometimes the stressors of the day cause people to lash out to a safe person, such as a husband or wife, the way to handle this is based on the frequency of these occurances and the temperments of both husband and wife.

I know I can diffuse a rare occasion like this with my husband by using humor, and then ask how his day went, but humor is not necessary—this is what works for us.

You want to see what the root is-if is really not coming to dinner or what not–or is it something that happened during the day that caused this, or is it something building up that a spouse needs to vent about–and why her reactions are so strong.

Not coming to dinner one time does not warrant this reaction. She could have verbalized concern in a loving way-stating it hurts her feelings and everything else.
 
Woah woah woah. Hold on a second here. Where do you think you get off first insulting me calling me a whiner and then secondly insulting my family bringing my mother into this conversation? My mother has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation and you have no right whatsoever to be hurling out insults at myself or anyone else on here. I came here to seek some advice. Not to be insulted or demeaned and especially not to have my family insulted. You don’t know me, you don’t know my wife, and you especially don’t know my mother. So if you got nothing nice/helpful to say, I’d appreciate it if you kept your opinion to yourself. Rest assured your distasteful comment was reported.
Pacoenelsaco-
I find it interesting to note that there are 61 replies on this thread and numerous posters who have offered you advice. This above is only response you offered to anyone thus far.

People take time to share their opinions. You haven’t said a word of thanks to anyone. Instead you got upset with one poster, and that’s all we’ve heard from you since the op.

You can’t change your wife, but you can change yourself. Learn to say “thank you”. And “please”. And “I’m sorry”. Don’t focus on the one comment that you perceived to be an insult while ignoring your basic manners.

Your wife made dinner. Did you ever tell her thanks? Or is this quote above closer to the kind of response she gets from you when she tries to do something nice? Basic manners go a long way in helping people to get along.

And you’re welcome.
 
Hey guys. So ok, this has been going on for quite some time now and honestly, I’m kinda stumped on how to tackle this issue within my marriage and I’m hoping some friendly advice can help.

First off all, I want to point out that my wife and I (literally) are best friends. I mean really, more than my wife, she’s literally my best friend whom I can talk to and approach about ANYTHING. She’s my world, I love her so much, and about 90% of our time spent together is shared with laughs and good times. However, I’ve known for a long time that my wife does seem to have an Anger Management problem. And I know it’s due to the issues she dealt with growing up (which I won’t get into). Basically what happens is that for the longest time now, whenever my wife and I have gotten into an argument, if it gets really heated my wife will often say something nasty to me or directly insult me.

Just an example, last night she cooked dinner for me and told me it was ready for me to eat. I told her I wasn’t hungry at the time which later on I realized it had upset her due to the fact that she had gone through the trouble of cooking for me and then I didn’t eat it. So, I stopped doing what I was doing and went into the kitchen to try to eat dinner. So I proceeded to ask her where the food was and she responded with “Up your…”. Now I know it may sound funny, but to me that was no laughing matter as I didn’t show up into the room with an attitude, or saying anything nasty to her, or insulting her in any way shape or form. And in fact I was trying to make up for the mistake I made in not eating her food at first and what do I receive? A nasty comment. So I tried to explain to her gently that that was unnecessary and that it hurts me when she says things like that to me, but she kinda just shrugged it off and ignored me like it was no big deal. And this seems to be the case over and over again when we get into these few occasions where we argue. It’ll get heated, she’ll say something nasty or straight up insult me, I try to tell her kindly when we both calm down that I don’t appreciate her being nasty or insulting me (as I NEVER insult her when we argue), and all she does is state that she’ll try to never do it again…but the same pattern keeps repeating itself.

We’ve known each other for about 9 years and this August we’ll have been married for 7 years and I guess I’ve been able to tolerate this behavior up until now because again, these cases with me and her really don’t happen to often. But when they DO happen, it’s like it hurts me to my core and I’m about DONE with her insulting me and saying nasty things to me when we argue because I NEVER do it to her nor would I ever. I mean why would someone feel the need to say something nasty or insult the person you’ve dedicated and decided to spend the rest of your life with? It doesn’t make much sense to me and I’ve pretty much concluded that this is something she needs Anger Management for. But every time I express that, she states that she’s really hesitant about going. So, other than the professional Anger Management advice (because I’ll keep working with her on that one), I guess I’m just looking on some advice on how to react to her when she acts like this.

Because like I said, I’m done with her treating me like this so recently when it happens I’ve resorted to giving her the silent treatment and just ignoring her for the rest of the day and then sleeping on my own. But then I come back to her the next day and basically try to make things right because…I don’t know…I guess I just can’t stay mad at her. Which I also feel like it isn’t sending the right message to her when I do that, but I guess I don’t want to totally ignore her either because then I feel like it’s only gonna make her angrier. So yeah, any advice would help. I appreciate it.
Just reading what you’ve written here, it sounds like you are a part of the problem. If you can realize that first, then you’ll be able to go on from there.

If you think this is just about her, then you’re going to be in for a long battle.

Certainly your wife’s anger issues need to be addressed, however, so does your passive aggressive behaviors.

A more appropriate response when you walked in the kitchen instead of “Where’s the food at?”, might have been “I’m sorry, that wasn’t very thoughtful of me” and then gone on from there.

Your wife cooked, so it would seem reasonable that you would go in and sit down and eat with her, and if you aren’t really hungry then you could just take a small amount, and tell her you’ll enjoy the rest later. She may have felt like a servant that you were simply dismissing. Your communication to her failed here.

The fact that you gave her the silent treatment, is a bit of a flag of what kind of personality you may have. It would seem you are more passive aggressive which can also be a very difficult type of person to communicate with. Silent treatment is just as cruel as yelling. It’s really no better.

It sounds like you could both benefit from counseling or some type of communication help.

If you can realize that this isn’t just about your wife’s anger but her inability to express frustration in a more productive way and that you need to get to the root of the frustration that you are clearly a part of, you’ll already be on the right path.
 
Pacoenelsaco-
I find it interesting to note that there are 61 replies on this thread and numerous posters who have offered you advice. This above is only response you offered to anyone thus far.

People take time to share their opinions. You haven’t said a word of thanks to anyone. Instead you got upset with one poster, and that’s all we’ve heard from you since the op.

You can’t change your wife, but you can change yourself. Learn to say “thank you”. And “please”. And “I’m sorry”. Don’t focus on the one comment that you perceived to be an insult while ignoring your basic manners.

Your wife made dinner. Did you ever tell her thanks? Or is this quote above closer to the kind of response she gets from you when she tries to do something nice? Basic manners go a long way in helping people to get along.

And you’re welcome.
That’s an interesting point.
 
First off, I want to apologize for taking so long to respond. I don’t know if you realize this gardenswithkids, but people do have lives outside of the forums here and I’m no different. Didn’t really have the opportunity to respond until now. So yeah, I apologize for the delay.

Secondly, I do want to take the time to thank those of you who have done what I asked and offered your constructive criticism, advice, and opinions on what to do in this matter. In particular to Longingsoul if I could shake your hand right now, I would. You seem to be the only person on here who seems to fully grasp and understand what we’re going through and I thank you for defending me.

Third, it seems like the rest of you have been stuck on just this one example that I wrote and don’t seem to fully grasp how ugly my wife can get when we have these few but far in between arguments. Let me make it very clear and break it down Barney style as we say in the Army (Yes, I am a United States Soldier). The dinner example I described before, doesn’t even scratch the surface of how nasty and rude my wife can become when we argue. There have been times where my wife has insulted me, insulted my family, has called me everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) in the book from an “sob” to “You MF piece of…Fecal matter”, saying things like “I hope you die”, etc., etc.

The point I’m NOT trying to make is that my wife isn’t justified in getting angry at me. No, we all do things that unfortunately hurt or offend those closest to us. It’s unavoidable and I’ve been realized this a long time ago. So I fully understand that a lot of times I AM at fault for her getting mad at me and EVERY single time I’ve offend my wife I ALWAYS apologize to her. But on that note, it seems like for me to get an apology from her I have to basically beg for one because she barely (and I do mean barely in the entire time we’ve been together) ever apologizes to me when I express to her (after we’ve both calmed down may I add) that she hurt me. But again, the point I’m trying to make is not that she isn’t justified in getting mad at me, or that I’m not at fault here, no. You guys are missing the point. The point I’m trying to make is that I DON’T CARE…what the issue is, or how aggravated I made her, or what have you. At no time (and I literally mean NO TIME) should it EVER be ok for a spouse to verbally and directly INSULT the person they’ve decided to spend the rest of they’re life with. It’s immature, it’s unnecessary, and downright hurtful coming from the person you’ve devoted your life to. And again, I don’t care how many times my wife upset me, or directly insulted me, not ONCE…have I ever directly insulted her back because I KNOW…how much those kind of comments hurt when they come from someone you love. And I don’t mean in a joking manner. It’s one thing to joke around and tease each other and call each other names while teasing (which my wife and I do a lot in the spirit of good fun). But it’s TOTALLY different if we’re arguing and then all of the sudden you just go and call me a “Stupid sob”. There is NO justification for that whatsoever. I remember learning about that in our Pre-Cana counseling and if you think that for whatever reason that it’s OK to directly insult or say nasty/rude comments to someone that you marry, well then I’m sorry but you got no business being married and have a lot of growing up to do imo.

Still don’t believe that my wife has anger issues or that I’m also to blame for her acting out? Let me elaborate even more. Not only does she lash out at me, but she’s also shown violent fits of rage against our own children as well. Our oldest in particular. He’s 8 now and he’s in that phase where you tell him things over and over again and either he just doesn’t get it or he just keeps repeating the same bad patterns. And often my wife gets so frustrated with him that when she lashes out at him, she’ll call him “Stupid”, she’ll call him “Retarded”, “Dumb”, “Idiot” and all these other names that I would NEVER refer to my kids as. And I’m here observing this kind of behavior as her husband and I remember that as a son, I NEVER appreciated it when my mother would call me these names when she was angry and in fact…it caused a LOT of problems with my mother and I’s relationship as I got older. And so the last thing I want for my children is to resent and feel towards they’re mother (my wife) the way I resented and felt about mine. So I often get on her case about that too and tell her that she REALLY shouldn’t lash out at the kids like that and especially not call em names. But again, she kinda just shrugs it off and says she’ll keep trying…but she hasn’t really improved. Now are you gonna tell me I’M to blame for that too? I mean come on, if everything I’ve described here doesn’t scream out anger problems to you, then really you just have no business reading this thread right now.
 
Finally, I just want to say that this topic here got way out of hand. I came here to seek some advice on how I should react to my wife to let her know that this kind of behavior hurts me as a temporary solution until we can actually get the counseling we need. And some of you have actually stayed on topic and offered your two cents and given me exactly what I asked for. To those people, I say thank you and I salute you. But the other ones who have come on this thread and judged my relationship saying things like “This should’ve been solved in the first year of marriage”, and have directly insulted me or my family, or painted me out to be some kind of narcissistic pig who views his wife as some kind of maid or servant (when I would NEVER EVER view my wife in such a manner seeing as how this is someone whom I love and adore with all my heart and have sacrificed so much for including being away from her on multiple occasions so I could serve and protect my country and fight for all of YOUR guys’ right to even type on your computers and say the rude comments ya’ll said to me) when I would never view her in such a manner, to all of you who have conducted yourself like this…really…I say…grow up…act your age…and show some respect. I did NOT come onto this thread to be disrespected or to be judged or what have you. ESPECIALLY not by people who are supposed to be my brothers and sisters in Christ. I came to you all seeking help and advice and if this is the kind of way you all are going to conduct yourselves in the future, then I want nothing more to do the majority of you. I mean really, is this how Christ taught you all to react to someone who’s reaching out for help and advice? This is the kind of behavior that drives people away from the Catholic church. When they view people as judgmental and disrespectful as you all. Didn’t our lord Jesus Christ teach us all to love one another and save the judging for Him to do? Really, I said it before and I’ll say it one last time. If you don’t have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all.

In conclusion, I will take to heart all the constructive and good advice and opinions everyone has shared on the matter and see what we can do. I ask that you all keep my wife and I in your prayers so that our marriage may continue to flourish and that we may hopefully come to a cure for my wife’s anger problems. God bless.
 
Gently, as others have stated, I would have also been very angry had I been in your wife’s position. Very angry. I don’t blame her at all for how she reacted, especially after you just ram-rodded over her hurt and justified anger to make it about you and how she should be apologizing to you. (If this is regular behavior, it is, at the very least, disrespectful, and some would categorize it as emotional abuse.)

If 90% of the time, your wife doesn’t seem to have an anger management problem, perhaps a) she’s holding it in and exploding when it builds up; (b) is reacting in an exaggerated way due to horomones, in which case you would probably be able to notice a cycle to the outburts; or (c) all of the above.

I think that the best approach would be to seek couple’s counseling to address these issues.
 
I am sorry you are going through this-perhaps you can suggest that she go for a physical and see if there is a hormonal or physical component to this. A doctor can prescribe a mild medication and suggest a counselor.

Until she is being treated for these outbursts with doctor and therapist, she may continue or get worse.
Prayers for you and your family.
:gopray:
 
pacoenelsaco: You are a man. You will therefore be blamed by many of the regular CAF members for your marital problems. If you had switched sexes in your post, you would have received more sympathy and constructive advice. It’s helpful to keep that in mind when evaluating the responses you receive.
 
Gently, as others have stated, I would have also been very angry had I been in your wife’s position. Very angry. I don’t blame her at all for how she reacted, especially after you just ram-rodded over her hurt and justified anger to make it about you and how she should be apologizing to you. (If this is regular behavior, it is, at the very least, disrespectful, and some would categorize it as emotional abuse.)

If 90% of the time, your wife doesn’t seem to have an anger management problem, perhaps a) she’s holding it in and exploding when it builds up; (b) is reacting in an exaggerated way due to horomones, in which case you would probably be able to notice a cycle to the outburts; or (c) all of the above.

I think that the best approach would be to seek couple’s counseling to address these issues.
I did not see her reaction as out-of-the-ordinary at all, let alone as something that required hormones as an explanation. A husband could easily have reacted in the same way to his wife, after all. Her reaction could have been more constructive, but like the husband’s decision to give her the silent treatment it fell in with the typical reactions that the conflicts of marriage bring. It was the kind of bad behavior that typical people fall into, with unfortunate but predictable results.

I have a rule for marriage that I give to couples who ask for my one most useful piece of advice: If you are wrong, apologize, even if you are not the most wrong. I’d even go so far as to say* especially* if you are not the most wrong, since the spouse who is the most wrong is usually feeling the most defensive, and therefore it is easier for the other one to break the ice and get the process of reconciliation going.

A real apology, if it gives reasons for the bad behavior at all, gives them in a way that does not qualify the need to apologize. In other words, you say, “I was very upset at what you did to my scissors, but I should never yell at you like I did. I’m sorry. I hope you’ll forgive me,” and NOT “I’m sorry, I hope you’ll forgive me, I should never yell at you like I did, but I was very upset at what you did to my scissors.” (Do you see how the second way sounds like you are slipping in an excuse for yourself?)

The beauty of the rule, of course, is that almost all stand-offs in apologies come about because both sides are thinking, “OK, yes, I’m wrong, but I’m not as wrong as he/she is, so I AM NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FIRST.” Both sides stubbornly dig in as a defense of their own moral superiority, both sides feel hurt and put upon, and what could have been easily dealt with hardens into a major conflict.

Why do that? Why not apologize when you’re wrong and look to repair what you’ve damaged without looking for bad behavior in your spouse as an excuse to leave the damage you did go un-repaired? Since you know that sometimes you are oblivious to how you hurt your spouse and you are certainly aware that you are oblivious to all the ways you offend God, right? Why not pass over some apologies you think you ought to get, in order to fulfill your supplication in the Our Father: Forgive us as we forgive those who trespass against us? This sacrament of marriage is meant to make saints of us, after all, not just make babies.

Marriages thrive on mercy: Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, is not arrogant, it is not inflated, it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury, How many of us had that passage read at our weddings? Well, are we willing to live it? If not in how we handle offenses against us, then how?

In our marriage vows, we promised our spouses: I promise to be true to you in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honor you all the days of my life. Not just the days when our spouse was doing his or her part or the days we feel we have the quid pro quo going, but all the days of our life. Until there is infidelity or abuse that poses a serious danger to us, we are not excused from the duty to keep that promise.
 
I did not see her reaction as out-of-the-ordinary at all, let alone as something that required hormones as an explanation. A husband could easily have reacted in the same way to his wife, after all. Her reaction could have been more constructive, but like the husband’s decision to give her the silent treatment it fell in with the typical reactions that the conflicts of marriage bring. It was the kind of bad behavior that typical people fall into, with unfortunate but predictable results.

I have a rule for marriage that I give to couples who ask for my one most useful piece of advice: If you are wrong, apologize, even if you are not the the most wrong. I’d even go so far as to say* especially* if you are not the most wrong, since the spouse who is the most wrong is usually feeling the most defensive, and therefore it is easier for the other one to break the ice and get the process of reconciliation going.

The beauty of the rule, of course, is that almost all stand-offs in apologies come about because both sides are thinking, “OK, yes, I’m wrong, but I’m not as wrong as he/she is, so I AM NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FIRST.” Both sides stubbornly dig in as a defense of their own moral superiority, both sides feel hurt and put upon, and what could have been easily dealt with hardens into a major conflict.

Why do that? Why not apologize when you’re wrong and look to repair what you’ve damaged without looking for bad behavior in your spouse as an excuse to leave the damage you did go un-repaired? Since you know that sometimes you are oblivious to how you hurt your spouse and you are certainly aware that you are oblivious to all the ways you offend God, right? Why not pass over some apologies you think you ought to get, in order to fulfill your supplication in the Our Father: Forgive us as we forgive those who trespass against us? This sacrament of marriage is meant to make saints of us, after all, not just make babies.

Marriages thrive on mercy: Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, is not arrogant, it is not inflated, it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury, How many of us had that passage read at our weddings? Well, are we willing to live it? If not in how we handle offenses against us, then how?

In our marriage vows, we promised our spouses: I promise to be true to you in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honor you all the days of my life. Not just the days when our spouse was doing his or her part or the days we feel we have the quid pro quo going, but all the days of our life. Until there is infidelity or a abuse that poses a serious danger to us, we are not excused from the duty to keep that promise.
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Your wife really needs to get some anger management. I do agree with the other posters that your response to her in regards to the food wasn’t great, but from your other posts, it obviously goes much deeper than this.

Your wife needs to realise now what damage she is doing to your children by speaking to them in this way. She needs to realise that she could seriously damage their own self esteem, or she could form their own communication skills to be like her own. Either way, this will have a really bad impact on your children. I know you don’t want to get into your wife’s childhood, but it may be possible that she is creating the same problems for your children as she had.

When your wife starts this, you need to be the bigger person. You need to walk away, take the kids out the house, and don’t give her the silent treatment. Passive aggressive in response to screaming insults does the same amount of damage, and your children are witnessing it all.

Lou
 
Your wife really needs to get some anger management. I do agree with the other posters that your response to her in regards to the food wasn’t great, but from your other posts, it obviously goes much deeper than this.

Your wife needs to realise now what damage she is doing to your children by speaking to them in this way. She needs to realise that she could seriously damage their own self esteem, or she could form their own communication skills to be like her own. Either way, this will have a really bad impact on your children. I know you don’t want to get into your wife’s childhood, but it may be possible that she is creating the same problems for your children as she had.

When your wife starts this, you need to be the bigger person. You need to walk away, take the kids out the house, and don’t give her the silent treatment. Passive aggressive in response to screaming insults does the same amount of damage, and your children are witnessing it all.

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Lou
 
Your wife really needs to get some anger management. I do agree with the other posters that your response to her in regards to the food wasn’t great, but from your other posts, it obviously goes much deeper than this.

Your wife needs to realise now what damage she is doing to your children by speaking to them in this way. She needs to realise that she could seriously damage their own self esteem, or she could form their own communication skills to be like her own. Either way, this will have a really bad impact on your children. I know you don’t want to get into your wife’s childhood, but it may be possible that she is creating the same problems for your children as she had.

When your wife starts this, you need to be the bigger person. You need to walk away, take the kids out the house, and don’t give her the silent treatment. Passive aggressive in response to screaming insults does the same amount of damage, and your children are witnessing it all.

Lou
I agree with you, Lou. She’s had an obviously bad start in life and he has said his mother talked to him like that also. Those aspects cause almost inevitably problematic arguments. Perhaps its a cultural thing, but her behaviour is objectively toxic to husband, the marriage and to the children. You’d expect that kind of talk in trailer park people.
 
I agree with you, Lou. She’s had an obviously bad start in life and he has said his mother talked to him like that also. Those aspects cause almost inevitably problematic arguments. Perhaps its a cultural thing, but her behaviour is objectively toxic to husband, the marriage and to the children. You’d expect that kind of talk in trailer park people.
You’re right. Not only is it toxic, it’s a cycle which continues through generations because it is a) accepted by others who communicate in this way or b) expected by others who have never seen another way to be treated. The sooner the cycle is broken, the better for the OP, his wife, their marriage, and their children.

Lou
 
First off, I want to apologize for taking so long to respond. I don’t know if you realize this gardenswithkids, but people do have lives outside of the forums here and I’m no different. Didn’t really have the opportunity to respond until now. So yeah, I apologize for the delay.

Secondly, I do want to take the time to thank those of you who have done what I asked and offered your constructive criticism, advice, and opinions on what to do in this matter. In particular to Longingsoul if I could shake your hand right now, I would. You seem to be the only person on here who seems to fully grasp and understand what we’re going through and I thank you for defending me.

Third, it seems like the rest of you have been stuck on just this one example that I wrote and don’t seem to fully grasp how ugly my wife can get when we have these few but far in between arguments. Let me make it very clear and break it down Barney style as we say in the Army (Yes, I am a United States Soldier). The dinner example I described before, doesn’t even scratch the surface of how nasty and rude my wife can become when we argue. There have been times where my wife has insulted me, insulted my family, has called me everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) in the book from an “sob” to “You MF piece of…Fecal matter”, saying things like “I hope you die”, etc., etc.

The point I’m NOT trying to make is that my wife isn’t justified in getting angry at me. No, we all do things that unfortunately hurt or offend those closest to us. It’s unavoidable and I’ve been realized this a long time ago. So I fully understand that a lot of times I AM at fault for her getting mad at me and EVERY single time I’ve offend my wife I ALWAYS apologize to her. But on that note, it seems like for me to get an apology from her I have to basically beg for one because she barely (and I do mean barely in the entire time we’ve been together) ever apologizes to me when I express to her (after we’ve both calmed down may I add) that she hurt me. But again, the point I’m trying to make is not that she isn’t justified in getting mad at me, or that I’m not at fault here, no. You guys are missing the point. The point I’m trying to make is that I DON’T CARE…what the issue is, or how aggravated I made her, or what have you. At no time (and I literally mean NO TIME) should it EVER be ok for a spouse to verbally and directly INSULT the person they’ve decided to spend the rest of they’re life with. It’s immature, it’s unnecessary, and downright hurtful coming from the person you’ve devoted your life to. And again, I don’t care how many times my wife upset me, or directly insulted me, not ONCE…have I ever directly insulted her back because I KNOW…how much those kind of comments hurt when they come from someone you love. And I don’t mean in a joking manner. It’s one thing to joke around and tease each other and call each other names while teasing (which my wife and I do a lot in the spirit of good fun). But it’s TOTALLY different if we’re arguing and then all of the sudden you just go and call me a “Stupid sob”. There is NO justification for that whatsoever. I remember learning about that in our Pre-Cana counseling and if you think that for whatever reason that it’s OK to directly insult or say nasty/rude comments to someone that you marry, well then I’m sorry but you got no business being married and have a lot of growing up to do imo.

Still don’t believe that my wife has anger issues or that I’m also to blame for her acting out? Let me elaborate even more. Not only does she lash out at me, but she’s also shown violent fits of rage against our own children as well. Our oldest in particular. He’s 8 now and he’s in that phase where you tell him things over and over again and either he just doesn’t get it or he just keeps repeating the same bad patterns. And often my wife gets so frustrated with him that when she lashes out at him, she’ll call him “Stupid”, she’ll call him “Retarded”, “Dumb”, “Idiot” and all these other names that I would NEVER refer to my kids as. And I’m here observing this kind of behavior as her husband and I remember that as a son, I NEVER appreciated it when my mother would call me these names when she was angry and in fact…it caused a LOT of problems with my mother and I’s relationship as I got older. And so the last thing I want for my children is to resent and feel towards they’re mother (my wife) the way I resented and felt about mine. So I often get on her case about that too and tell her that she REALLY shouldn’t lash out at the kids like that and especially not call em names. But again, she kinda just shrugs it off and says she’ll keep trying…but she hasn’t really improved. Now are you gonna tell me I’M to blame for that too? I mean come on, if everything I’ve described here doesn’t scream out anger problems to you, then really you just have no business reading this thread right now.
What you shared here is* very *different from the one example you gave in the original post. Had you written that first, I would have written a very different response from the first one I wrote. Now I can see why you think she need anger management help.

Nevertheless, much of the advice given still stands. You can’t change your wife, you can’t make her go to anger management counseling if she won’t go, but you can change yourself and your own behavior.

I realize that you and everyone else here have lives outside of CAF. My comment wasn’t that you didn’t respond–it was that you did respond, but the only poster you responded to was the post that you found most insulting. If you mostly just respond to insults, someone who wants a response from you is more likely to hurl insults at you.

I am sorry that you are going through this right now. It sounds like you love your wife. Make sure you tell her that you love her. It sounds like both of you are hurting right now.
 
I know as a soldier you have a stressful job. I’m an army wife. Our job is stressful too. I don’t know if you’ve got kids, but that can add stress to your wife’s side as well. My husband is getting ready to deploy again so he’s busy A LOT. Busy means gone. FTX, JRTC, and just getting stuff ready to be gone. It’s hard that he’s gone so much because he’s busy getting ready to leave. It’s the one aspect if the Army I really get frustrated with. Even after 12 + years and 7 deployments on top of humanitarian missions and all the other trips for school, training, etc, the being gone so they can leave is the hardest part.

I’m not going to excuse her. I said before I wasn’t there but I can really think of worse than what you typed in your first post. You have since posted worse. I understand your frustration. I also understand hers. If you are gone even when you are home, it’s hurtful to her. She could very well feel abandoned emotionally. Try harder to be present when you are home. It would anger me if my husband didn’t do that for me and the kids. There wouldn’t be much left to hold on to if he avoided us when he’s home, or made us feel as if we were being avoided.

I am not excusing her. There isn’t a reason to disrespect your spouse regardless of how you feel. Don’t give her more fuel to add to her fire though.

Contact MFLC. Contact Army Onesource. Contact your unit chaplain or even better the Catholic chaplain on post. Army priests are amazing and have always taken care of my family. Luckily my husband’s unit chaplain is a priest and is deploying with him. All these options are free and confidential and they will not tip off your chain of command unless you are homicidal/suicidal. Military family life consultants don’t even keep records. You don’t even need to tell them your name. Getting help in real life is the best option for you or anyone else in similar situations. Nobody here will really offer you anything besides opinions and those opinions may make things worse for both of you.

I’ll say a prayer for you and your marriage. I know it’s hard. I’ve been married 18 years, my husband has gone between Active Duty and Reserves a few times with a small break thrown in for our entire marriage. Total of 12 years active or activated reservist. We have 8 kids. Trust me, I get the stress and I know you need time to chill after you get home. I think it’s best if you get that your wife has needs too and try to find ways to balance yours with hers. PM me if you need more resources or if the links don’t give you what you need. There’s tons of free help for soldiers and their families available.

militaryonesource.mil/army

hnfs.com/content/hnfs/home/tn/common/bh/military_and_familylifeconsultantprogram.html/pp/content/hnfs/home/tn/bene/bh
 
What you shared here is* very *different from the one example you gave in the original post. Had you written that first, I would have written a very different response from the first one I wrote. Now I can see why you think she need anger management help.

Nevertheless, much of the advice given still stands. You can’t change your wife, you can’t make her go to anger management counseling if she won’t go, but you can change yourself and your own behavior.

I realize that you and everyone else here have lives outside of CAF. My comment wasn’t that you didn’t respond–it was that you did respond, but the only poster you responded to was the post that you found most insulting. If you mostly just respond to insults, someone who wants a response from you is more likely to hurl insults at you.

I am sorry that you are going through this right now. It sounds like you love your wife. Make sure you tell her that you love her. It sounds like both of you are hurting right now.
Right.

If your wife can only get your attention by doing bad stuff, she’s going to get more and more bad stuff.
 
I’m not going to excuse her. I said before I wasn’t there but I can really think of worse than what you typed in your first post. You have since posted worse. I understand your frustration. I also understand hers.** If you are gone even when you are home, it’s hurtful to her. She could very well feel abandoned emotionally. Try harder to be present when you are home.** It would anger me if my husband didn’t do that for me and the kids. **There wouldn’t be much left to hold on to if he avoided us when he’s home, or made us feel as if we were being avoided. **
Yes.
 
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