How to treat a Bishop in a social setting?

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If one encounters a Bishop in a social setting, what is the proper protocol in dealing with him? Bow? Kneel? Left knee or right knee? Kiss the ring? And how does one address him? Again, in a social setting – perhaps a lunch or supper?
 
If one encounters a Bishop in a social setting, what is the proper protocol in dealing with him? Bow? Kneel? Left knee or right knee? Kiss the ring? And how does one address him? Again, in a social setting – perhaps a lunch or supper?
I suppose it might depend on the bishop.

I was introduced to ours recently in a social setting. He’s not keen on the bowing-kneeling-kissing-of-ring kind of thing so we just shook hands and I called him ‘Bishop’.
 
It is not the Bishop that I am under but another Bishop in the same Archdiocese.
 
It is not the Bishop that I am under but another Bishop in the same Archdiocese.
Then ask around and find out how he prefers to be greeted. In my experience, most bishops don’t want to be treated formally in such a setting, but I wouldn’t take that for granted.
 
A friend of mine recently saw our Bishop in a local supermarket, and overheard the lady at the checkout greet him with ‘Oh Bishop, it’s great to see you without your clothes on!’. His house was just up the road and he’d obviously decided to nip out quickly for his messages, his collar conceiled beneath his jacket.
 
A friend of mine recently saw our Bishop in a local supermarket, and overheard the lady at the checkout greet him with ‘Oh Bishop, it’s great to see you without your clothes on!’. His house was just up the road and he’d obviously decided to nip out quickly for his messages, his collar conceiled beneath his jacket.
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Aren’t bishop supposed to be addressed as “your Excellency”? and if they are a cardinal, “Your Eminence”?

I eagerly await more complete answers as I have never met a bishop in a social setting.
 
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Aren’t bishop supposed to be addressed as “your Excellency”? and if they are a cardinal, “Your Eminence”?

I eagerly await more complete answers as I have never met a bishop in a social setting.
I think in a social setting, just plain ‘Bishop’ or ‘Cardinal’ is sufficient. But perhaps in the US the more formal your Excellency/Eminence or your Grace is expected even in a social setting?? (I think that in general here in Ireland we (clergy and laity) have become less formal about titles)
 
You are correct RPP. He is a Bishop no matter where he goes and should be treat with the respect due his Office. If he doesn’t like it then perhaps he should submit his resignation.

When I was in the Marines, sometime ago, I was a Sargent and met an Army Colonel in a social setting. I recognized him and addressed him as “Sir”. He just snarled at me and told me to quit calling him “Sir”. I told him I was sorry but that would be a “breech of military etiquet” So I just did what I had to do. Didn’t see to much of him that evening.
 
If one encounters a Bishop in a social setting, what is the proper protocol in dealing with him? Bow? Kneel? Left knee or right knee? Kiss the ring? And how does one address him? Again, in a social setting – perhaps a lunch or supper?
Traditionally, a Roman bishop (or Archbishop or Cardinal) is greeted by kneeling on the left knee while kissing his ring. That’s for the first meeting in whatever setting, not for each time one encounters him during the course of the event. A bishop is traditionally addressed as “Your Excellency” in the US (“Your Grace” for an Archbishop, and for bishops in general in the UK and other and some other English-speaking lands). Irrespective of what anyone might think, it is never wrong to do either. If the bishop would rather be addressed more informally, he will say so, and will also say what form he would prefer. Best to “err” on the conservative side and leave the decision to him. 🙂
 
I ran into Cardinal DiNardo on a coffee line at a conference. He took my hand and shook it and I addressed him as Cardinal DiNardo, we had a nice little conversation. A sister friend of mine had a drink with him in the bar later that evening, had a great time. He was very informal.

I have had the opportunity to meet many bishops, archbishops and cardinals and they have always no stood on ceremony. I hardly ever saw anyone genuflect or kiss their ring, especially in a social setting.
 
I have had the opportunity to meet many bishops, archbishops and cardinals and they have always no stood on ceremony. I hardly ever saw anyone genuflect or kiss their ring, especially in a social setting.
So have I, and have always started with the formal greeting. Whether they “stand on ceremony” or not is beside the point. IMHO, people should at least offer the formal greeting and respect. If the bishop prefers something more “informal” it’s up to the bishop to say so. And even then, if a person is not comfortable with that degree of informality, there is nothing wrong with keeping things formal.

For example, I’m on a personal basis with my own bishop, (we occasionally dine or otherwise spend time together), yet in public gatherings (and often in private) I greet him formally. The same was true with his penultimate predecessor. So, too, with an Abbot-General, etc. In any case, I firmly believe it’s preferable to at least offer the formal greeting.
 
I thought it was only a Nuncio you address as your excellency and a bishop you address as your grace
 
I had an interesting encounter with a [now] formerly Episcopal Bishop, who ‘swam across the Tiber’ with his wife not many years ago.

He came into the Catholic bookstore where I worked at the time. I waited on him, and as I checked out his purchases, I noticed the chunky ring on his finger (he was wearing civilian clothes, not clericals) and i said innocently,’ Nice ring you got there.’ Much to my mortification, he smiled and said, 'I’m the Episcopal Bishop of ‘______’ . " (I won’t mention the city for privacy reasons). I responded in a small voice, ‘Oh-I apologize, Your Grace.’ He was pretty good about it.

On another occasion when he came in, it was right after Pope Benedict was elected. He told me that he had a great admiration for both Pope John Paul II and then-Cardinal Ratzinger (as men and as intellectuals ‘in the good sense’). He told me that, on the day of Benedict’s election, he was attending a conference of more traditional-minded Episcopal Bishops, priests and laity. He had his cell phone with him, and before he went to the conference, he told his wife to call the minute the conclave in the Sistine Chapel had concluded with the election of a new Pope. In the midst of the meeting, his wife called, said simply the words, ‘Habemus Papam’, and * informed him that Ratzinger was now the Pope! I was so happy to hear that, I impulsively gave the Bishop a ‘high five’ ! 😃 :o And he told me that the other people in the conference stood up and applauded! 😃 🙂 Isn’t that cool? And this was five years ago, before the Apostolic Constitution on Anglicans wanting to enter the Church! 👍

After the Bishop retired, he and his wife quietly entered the Catholic Church.*
 
I thought it was only a Nuncio you address as your excellency and a bishop you address as your grace
I think that, for bishops, “Your Grace” is used in Great Britain and the British Commonwealth, and “Your Excellency” is used elsewhere, including the United States.
 
Whatever is correct, I’m quite sure it isn’t what an attendee at a Q & A with the Archbishop used to address him: “Dude” :eek:

The Archbishop was good enough to laugh about it when he told the story, but I do not get the feeling that he was at all charmed at the time. 😃
 
You mean, “Hey, Bish!” isn’t the correct form of address (or in the longer form, “Hey Bish-dude!”?
 
You mean, “Hey, Bish!” isn’t the correct form of address (or in the longer form, “Hey Bish-dude!”?
What about calling an archbishop “Archie”? Is that not a good thing to do either? 😛
 
Hmmm…from a layman’s perspective…I like Your Grace 😉 (which is what I heard our pastor address our archbishop at the Anglican Use Conference years ago—it has a more formal ring to it) instead of Your Excellency (I suppose you can’t go wrong with either)—You Excellency seems to me what you would address secular officials.

However, when the Archbishop came to greet me, I didn’t know what to say and simply introduced myself w/o a greeting. 😊
 
What I meant to say was that “Your Grace” sounds more graceful than “Your Excellency”.😉
 
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