How to wear a Mantilla?

[OutinChgoburbs]

Isidore_AK:

Here’s an article I found that I thought was quite informative…​

Why Wear the Veil?..

As Robert pointed out, it was NOT a mantilla, it was a HAT, HAT, HAT.:banghead: This article might have better value than most, but it still TO ME makes a romantic notion out of a discipline.

That being said, if you try either a clear comb sewn into the underside (try Hobby Lobby in the bridal department), the matching bobby pins in a X, or a clear plastic headband with invisible stitches in the same color as the lace (also in the bridal department of Hobby Lobby), it shouldn’t slip.

There is also something called the hat pin. Put the mantilla on your head. While looking in the mirror, weave the pin (it’s huge, so be careful) through the hair and mantilla, as if you were pinning something a couple times before sewing it. Aim forthe back or crown of your head.

Just don’t do what they did to little girls to hold hats on heads: Nasty elastic under the chin (itchy), or the plastic headband combined with rivets (painful at the temples).

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

CarolAnnSFO:

Interesting, I didn’t know that. Incidentally, I’m a woman who doesn’t fall into any of those categories…That doesn’t apply to me, either. I guess it’s OK for me to keep my head uncovered, then.
Carol, we have been vindicated!!! Robert remembers HATS as well!!!

I don’t qualify for any of those, either.
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[Catholic_Heart]

I have a black mantila, and love to wear it…But, I only wear it when attending a Traditional Latin Mass, because I know it is both expected and acceptable…I’d love to wear it tomy parish Mass, but have to admit that I’m chicken…No one…and I mean No One…in a parish of nearly three thousand families…wears a head covering of any kind. Dress there is fairly casual…jeans, pants, shorts, short skirts…It’s all there…and no hats or other head coverings. I am one of the few who wear skirts/dresses to Sunday Mass.

Raised a Methodist, in the fifties/sixties, I certainly do remember the hats we wore…Mostly at Easter. But, some ladies did wear hats all year 'round.

Oh…I just remembed…I knew a woman in a parish near here who always wore a very stylish hat for Mass…

 

[mercygate]

Catholic Heart:

I have a black mantila, and love to wear it…But, I only wear it when attending a Traditional Latin Mass, because I know it is both expected and acceptable…I’d love to wear it tomy parish Mass, but have to admit that I’m chicken…No one…and I mean No One…in a parish of nearly three thousand families…wears a head covering of any kind. Dress there is fairly casual…jeans, pants, shorts, short skirts…It’s all there…and no hats or other head coverings. I am one of the few who wear skirts/dresses to Sunday Mass.

Raised a Methodist, in the fifties/sixties, I certainly do remember the hats we wore…Mostly at Easter. But, some ladies did wear hats all year 'round.

Oh…I just remembed…I knew a woman in a parish near here who always wore a very stylish hat for Mass…

I say, nix the manillas! Bring back dangerous little hats – beautiful hats that cheer you up and make you vain. Hats that advertise everything our Christian humility tells us we’re supposed to despise. A great hat was a powerful thing in its day. Kudos for Lily Dache.

Five years ago, when my husband and I had to re-marry in the Catholic Church because of his canonical irregularities at the time of our marriage in the Episcopal Church, I showed up for the wedding in a black skirt, sapphire blue jacket, and a dashing little black chapeau with a narrow, sweeping brim, small curled ostrich feather, and chin-length veil (in the front).

See you in church! :tiphat:

 

[allhers]

I just recently read about this at:

www.fatimafamily.org/articles/VeilQuestions.html

 

[Celia]

I love the custom of wearing hats or veils, and I would, but I would end up standing out in my parish (which is kind of the opposite of the intention I think) because noooo one wears one at all. Very much a jeans and t-shirts kind of church, unfortunately…

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

mercygate:

Five years ago, when my husband and I had to re-marry in the Catholic Church because of his canonical irregularities at the time of our marriage in the Episcopal Church, I showed up for the wedding in a black skirt, sapphire blue jacket, and a dashing little black chapeau with a narrow, sweeping brim, small curled ostrich feather, and chin-length veil (in the front).

See you in church! :tiphat:

Now that sounds like a hat I could wear, even with (and possibly because of) the veil!!!

Hats don’t always work out for me. I have a big head.

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

allhers:

I just recently read about this at:

www.fatimafamily.org/articles/VeilQuestions.html

I think this priest is stating his opinion.

I’ll do the research and find you Cardinal George’s response regarding headgear.

Well, not trying to be rude, just supply information. Here’s where I got mine:

catholic.com/thisrock/2005/0501qq.asp

ewtn.com/vexperts/showresult.asp?RecNum=298705&Forums=0&Experts=8&Days=2002&Author=&Keyword=women&pgnu=1&groupnum=0&record_bookmark=1&ORDER_BY_TXT=ORDER+BY+ReplyDate+DESC&start_at=

 

[MaryAgnes]

turboEDvo:

Harrison Ford style…staple-gun? kidding

PM Fashina86, she knows the deal.

Eamon

LOL I was thinking of Super Glue …

 

[twiztedseraph]

CarolAnnSFO:

Interesting, I didn’t know that. Incidentally, I’m a woman who doesn’t fall into any of those categories.

That doesn’t apply to me, either. I guess it’s OK for me to keep my head uncovered, then.

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A woman is still sacred Turning up to a Eucharistic Youth Congress where about 60% of the girls aged 13-19 were wearing mantilla’s, I’m surprised that the male catholic population don’t push it on your fair gender. Theres just something beatific about it.

 

[Brenda_V]

As a woman with very straight, slippery, thick hair I can’t keep a Mantilla on my head for much more than the duration of a Mass! Nothing works, bobby pins criss-crossed, hat pins woven in and out, hair combs, special barretts, twisting my hair (it will fight the twist and come right out with a vengeance most likely tossing the pin that was supposed to hold it in place across the room - actually, this has happened).

I find that what works best is a small scarf that I tie under my hair in the back and even that is not the best as the scarf can slide around my head leaving the point to the side instead of pointing down my back .

Hopefully some of these suggestions will work for your wife.

I did wear my mantilla the other day to Mass and it stayed put, for the most part, found it slipping sideways a couple of times but not backwards off my head like it used to when I was a child. I then wore it last weekend as we dressed as Saints for CCD and I went as Saint Gianna Molla and put a stethoscope around my neck as well (my mantilla fell off before the class was up but we were having a party and I was far more active there than I am at Mass).

Brenda V.

 

[system]

The mantilla, as a head covering for church, was not popular until around 1959-60 when Jackie Kennedy became a press item. She apparently disliked hats and only wore them under duress, mostly after she became First Lady.

actually, they became popular in the late 1800’s, not because of the Jackie Kennedy-Onassis!
i agree that they are beautiful and wearing them makes me feel more at ease during mass because i feel a little more respectful when my head is covered(at mass).
i think women should decide whether or not they want to wear a mantilla or not. nothing wrong with either decision! it’s a pretty tradition that doesn’t make the wearer shallow or appear to have ‘false humility’, but shows her respect to the Lord, and the Church while she is inwardly humble and contemplative.

 

[system]

Thank you all. I have learned things here that I hadn’t learned before.
'I seriously saw humility and modesty in a different light. The words meant something entirely different to me, it might appear.
I think vanity might mean something different as well.

I didn’t mean that in a bad way at all. I suppose if I called someone a vain person it might not sound very nice but I didn’t mean it that way.

Somehow, I have a hard time seeing a lace veil as a sign of either humility or modesty. Lace is a rather luxurious fabric to be seen as humble and it has never been known for modest dress when used in any other way. I guess that is what I am trying to say. Would you consider a lace chapel cap the same thing?

Back before Vatican II, women covered their heads for two reasons. First in obedience because it was demanded of them by Holy Mother Church. Don’t ask me why, I doubt anyone really knew for sure. Maybe as you say, humility or modesty. However, women were known to spend small fortunes on lovely hats, it was a common joke of the day … everyone was aware of the jokes.
Secondly, it was indeed the style. I do remember when lace mantillas became popular. It happened at a time when there were some very Romantic (what they call now as “girly” films out where the female leads were Spanish and usually quite rich with duenas keeping a very close eye on them. These beautiful ladies wore high combs in their hair with a mantilla falling over the top of it. They wore them though out the movie but you would always see them kneeling in Church praying.
Young girls would watch these movies, in romantic awe. I was one of them as were my friends. Mantillas could be purchased from little ads in movie magazines with pictures of the leading ladies shown in the ads.
It wasn’t long before we started seeing them in Church.
Maybe if you see this from my point of view you can see why I was so puzzled by the subject.’

i hate to say this again, but mantillas have been around for THIS reason for MASS first before fashion since the early 1800’s thanks to Queen Isobel II.
girls may have copied it where you were because of some movie but it’s a VERY old tradition. Chapel caps were around before the mantilla and are a french/normandy tradition that spread.

 

[system]

i’ve said this before on here somewhere!! Mantillas were worn in spain first of course, during the 1800’s.
the chapel cap was worn way before that in the french/normandy churches.