How was Christ descended from David?

[Voco_proTatiano]

I’ll have to find sources for this one, but when I posed the same question to my priest, he told me that most likely Our Lady was of the same descent as Joseph, and so Christ’s Davidic ineage, though recorded through Joseph, actually came from His mother.

This is more in keeping with what I understand the accounting of Jewish lineage to be, anyway.

I’ll see if I can find sources.

C

p.s. jimmyakin.typepad.com/defensor_fidei/2006/07/descended_from_.html

Some Eastern Churches believe that the Joseph is the genealogy list was not the husband of Mary, but her father. The Latin says only that he was her man, and that can be read as either father or husband.
Reading as father also corrects the error of 13 generations being counted as 14.

 

[porthos11]

Hello,

I believe that Heli is a derivative of Joachim.

Heli is not a derivative of Joachim. Heli (Eli) means “my God”. Joachim means “he whom Yahweh has set up.”

As for the Greek argument, the article and the proper nouns are simply in genitive form, so literally, the text goes:

“…Jesus was the son it was thought of Joseph of the Heli of the Matthat of the Levi of the Melchi…”

Besides, the problem doesn’t occur only with Joseph. It occurs also with Shealtiel.

So no, I remain to discount Marian genealogy in Luke, and go with the general scholarly opinion that the Lukan genealogy is that of Joseph. Moving the parenthesis is a risky move linguistically.

 

[JMJ_coder]

Hello,

Heli is not a derivative of Joachim. Heli (Eli) means “my God”. Joachim means “he whom Yahweh has set up.”

Joachim is another form of Joakim and Eliakim. Eliakim can be shortened to Eli, which in the Greek would be rendered Heli.

As for the Greek argument, the article and the proper nouns are simply in genitive form, so literally, the text goes:

“…Jesus was the son it was thought of Joseph of the Heli of the Matthat of the Levi of the Melchi…”

Yes, it doesn’t say Joesph son of Heli - it says Joseph of Heli. And this can indicate that Heli is the father-in-law of Joseph.

So no, I remain to discount Marian genealogy in Luke, and go with the general scholarly opinion that the Lukan genealogy is that of Joseph. Moving the parenthesis is a risky move linguistically.

And I remain to affirm the Marian genealogy in Luke, and go against modern Biblical scholarly opinion (as in other cases, like their dating and ordering of the Gospels).