a quick addition: suppose that the argument/proof/evidence is pretty much irrevocable.
I don’t think i can answer, because it would be impossible for anything but the Church to be shown to be true. Perhaps you can clarify what you mean by “shown to be true”?
Would you really want to follow reason and all that entails in converting to atheism? As a Jew, I would have to say I would continue following my faith since part of it consists of G-d’s testing us and this may be yet another test.
it may be impossible, but that comes from the assumption that the Catholic church actually is the correct worldview. While it may be very improbable for the catholic church to be incorrect, it is not impossible, in the same sense that making a square circle is impossible. If irrevocable evidence turns up that shows that the Catholicism is a false religion, would you convert to atheism?
No, because such evidence is impossible. Even if it ever seemed like there was such evidence, it is by faith we know that it is not so — that we know with certainty that the Church is 100% true.
Sure, scientists could figure out some scientific explanation for the big bang, and if they did, atheists would probably use it as a theological argument. Even if Atheists found a way to explain the statistical improbabilities, it still wouldn’t be irrevocable. The evidence I’m speaking of is unlike any proof set up for or against the existence of God. it prooves conclusively that God does not and can not exist, in the same way it is impossible to make a square circle. This argument can not logically be false. This isn’t some argument that someone can wiggle their way around at some later date. there are no loopholes. This can’t be a test. Do you accept that there is no God, and perhaps live in misery for the rest of your life, or do you lie to yourself and continue to worship a God that does not exist for your emotional stability? In this hypothetical scenario, those are really your only two options.
And again I ask, how can one respond to a scenario that is strictly impossible?
Don’t focus on the particulars, just assume that somehow the opposite of what you believe was shown to be true.
. That’s why I voted “I’m an atheist: yes”Why do you believe that the catholic church is correct? In your case, isn’t it faith? yet faith is itself a sort of evidence, isn’t it? When human beings decide what is true rationally, they wiegh all the evidence for and against it. whichever has the most evidence is what you accept.
If proof was found that 2 + 2 in fact does not equal 4, would you change your view?Don’t focus on the particulars, just assume that somehow the opposite of what you believe was shown to be true.
With a little imagination it’s easy
Our faith, wavers, yes, but the truth does not.
The fact that 2+2=4 has been irrevocably proven. God’s existence has not.
It can be undoubtedly proven philosophically that God exists.
Then faith, in the sense that many christians mean it, is unneeded, and the knowledge that God exits should never waver for the people who are aware of this proof.
Our reason can be deceived. Many people believe many things by reason, yet those beliefs contradict one another. Even reason takes faith.
Once more, how would you respond if someone asked what you would do if proof was found that 2 + 2 did not equal 4, or that the Earth was not round?
it can not be decieved about irrevocably proven things, like the fact that we have consciousness, that 2+2=4, and the fundamental, basic laws of logic. These have been proven so well that no one argues against them, and no one ever doubts them, like they doubt and argue over the existence of God.
not beliefs that have been irrevocably proven.
On the contrary. Even faith takes reason.