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If you were given these hypothetical questions/statements, what would you say?:
  1. If there is no proof of God, then why should i believe in him?
  2. “Religions often believe and teach facts which modern knowledge knows to be wrong or impossible. This makes religion seem ridiculous and unbelievable.”
  3. Doesn’t the existence of pain ans suffering prove God doesn’t exist?
I do not agree with any of these questions, but how would i answer them?
 
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I would say:

God IS.
He is all powerful.
He is mysterious.
He is there for you.
 
  1. By ‘proof’ they are likely looking for scientific, physical proof, which logically is totally vacuous as God is not a physical being in the universe who can be discovered through the medium of the sciences. He is ‘proven’ through philosophical argument and revelation.
  2. This is simply incorrect and a perfect example of the ignorance of the differences between science and religion - they do not conflict.
  3. This is an old moral argument against the goodness of God, but says absolutely nothing of the metaphysical reality of the absolute, which God is.
 
1:) ‘proof’ is different for everyone. On another level to search for what they want, ‘a material piece of an entirely immaterial being’ is curious.

2;) Scripture is so vast in scope, as is interpretation, that we’d have to deal on a specific example basis.

3:) The problem of evil is done to death online, so there’s little point rehashing what 987654321 apologists have typed before. The key word is ‘consequence’. Without it, free choice is meaningless.
 
Joe1 said:
If there is no proof of God, then why should i believe in him?
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You think that the universe can come completely out of nothing?

Science indicates that the universe had a beginning therefore something had to have began it.
Joe1 said:
“Religions often believe and teach facts which modern knowledge knows to be wrong or impossible. This makes religion seem ridiculous and unbelievable.”
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Give specific example from Catholic teaching
Joe1 said:
Doesn’t the existence of pain ans suffering prove God doesn’t exist?
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Without God how are they bad?
 
joshringsell said:
This is simply incorrect and a perfect example of the ignorance of the differences between science and religion - they do not conflict.
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what would i say to show proof of transubstantiation? I highly doubt i could provide proof of it occurring because science has nothing to do with it and the body and blood of Christ is still under the appearance of bread and wine
 
Pascal’s Wager is an argument in philosophy presented by the seventeenth-century French philosopher, mathematician and physicist Blaise Pascal (1623–62). It posits that humans bet with their lives that God either exists or does not.

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I’d’ bring up Eucharistic miracles but doubt it would be convincing.
 
If it was me, I would have to begin from the existence of God. If they don’t have that as a grounding then any supernatural claims you make are unlikely to convince.

Other than that, Eucharistic miracles as another commenter said, some of them are quite profound.
 
1.There are many proofs.
2 .for example?
3.Even i have doubted,but Gods ways are mysterious and even in our sufferings there is a reason,at first we might not be able to understand
 
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For #2, I find it amusing a lot people’s ‘modern knowledge’ aren’t even based on science and that list is extensive. It’s remarkable how much junk from ‘modern people’ is considered ‘facts’ and how they get away with it.
 
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knowledge of God is always a matter of faith Faith and reason will get you there. If it doesn’t then don’t believe

There is one that doesn’t do that

Nope
 
Indeed, plus the metaphysical assumptions and prejudice which is prevalent nowadays is basically the fundamentalist version of science. They don’t realise that their claims require philosophical grounding and whatever claims they make, they’re also making metaphysical claims.
 
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“If there is no proof of God, then why should i believe in him?”

God’s existence can neither be proved nor disproved by the scientific method by which only the material world of time and space is examined and measured. God transcends the universe of time and space.

The universe itself is proof (to me) that God exists because we know, according to scientific principles, that matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore, only a transcendent Being can create matter from nothing—from no pre-existing matter at all. The universe could not have ‘created itself’
 
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Joe1 said:
“Religions often believe and teach facts which modern knowledge knows to be wrong or impossible. This makes religion seem ridiculous and unbelievable.”
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Again, “modern knowledge” is based on the observable/sensible scientific method which has no basis to judge the metaphysical as right, wrong or impossible. “Ridiculous and unbelievable” are more matters of opinion.
A supreme, eternal, all-knowing and all-powerful Being is rationally believable.
 
Joe1 said:
Doesn’t the existence of pain ans suffering prove God doesn’t exist?
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I don’t believe so. Pain and suffering are just part of living life as a mortal, fallible human being in an imperfect world. It happens to everyone.
Also, I believe it’s part of God’s plan to bring us closer to Him, to rely upon His grace for comfort, and to hope in His promises for a more perfect life with Him.
 
Brittany said:
There is proof of God. The question is whether or not one is willing to accept it. Just because one isn’t convinced of the proof doesn’t mean there isn’t any.
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can i have some proof, other than faith? I believe in God and i’m curious as to what proof i could use in the future if i talk to an atheist
 
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