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Love_Divine
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No, you’re not.
At Mass we ARE celebrating his suffering and sacrifice. We’re at the foot of Calvary. Christ’s sacrifice re-presented in an unbloody sacrifice.
How would you deal with abuses that make a mockery out of Mass?
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No, you’re not.
At Mass we ARE celebrating his suffering and sacrifice. We’re at the foot of Calvary. Christ’s sacrifice re-presented in an unbloody sacrifice.
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Allegra
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We are celebrating any number of things during the Mass, all of which are joyful in different ways. Some Masses are more solomn than others based on the lituragy for that day. The Eucharist should always be solomnly joyful, however, in my opinion.
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TheMc
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?!?!?
I have to ask: what is the “light of God”? Also, whatever “the light of God” is, what we actually do at Mass is lay ourselves at the foot of the Cross in worship.
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Claire_from_DE
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During the Easter vigil liturgy we sing ‘Christ the Light has come into the world’. The Mass makes present for us in an un-bloody manner Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross and we also celebrate His resurrection from the dead and His ascension into heaven where He is seated in glory at the right hand of the Father where He constantly intercedes for us. On Good Friday we enter into His suffering. On Easter we rejoice in His resurrection. Every Sunday we can experience the joy of the resurrection. Mass is not either/or, it’s both sacrifice and celebration.
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NewsTheMan
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And this means we should laugh
Tell jokes and play the fool? Solemn doesn’t mean depressed or without joy. Pious doesn’t mean lacking all fun. Reverence doesn’t mean total lack of spiritual joy. You can understand that, since you’ve tried to make a case for both/and rather than either/or. And I agree with you there. It is sacrifice and celebration. But we need to understand how to live out the joyous celebration - we need to understand the context and what that joy is. Were not the Isrealites in the desert joyful and celebrating for what God had done for them? Definitely. So what did it mean for them? It meant absolute reverence, it meant absolute awe and it meant the true joy of God. In the presence of Almighty God laughter is a shallow joy. Real joy is found in Christ as we sit in His presence at Mass. When I sit in complete silence at Adoration, sometimes prostrating myself if I am alone, I do not feel more joy than at those moments.The point is that why do we try and justify laughter in this way? What could be funny about the sacrifice of the Mass? There is nothing about it that is funny. So how else does laughter come about? Only by taking the focus off Christ on placing it onto someone else or something else.
Think about this for a second. A funeral. A funeral is both a solemn thing where we pray for someones soul, but it is also a celebration of their life. So it is both/and. But would it be appropriate to laugh at a funeral? Would you, halfway through, stand up and start cracking jokes? Definitely not! Time and place! But how much more then for our Lord and for the Mass!
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Love_Divine
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Speaking of cracking jokes at funerals, this priest did crack a rather insensitive joke at my grandpa’s funeral at the start of his homily in 2006. It was about 30°C outside, and my church has no A/C. My priest, who loathes the heat, got up to the pulpit and said, “You know, X couldn’t have picked a worsr time to die. I’m just sweating up here.” Laughter ensued, but I wasn’t laughing. My grandpa died instantly of a heart attack, had a DNR on his medical records, and never got Last Rites.
But of course, this is a joyous time, to celebrate in the resurection and that my grandpa was up in heaven looking down.
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TheMc
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Do you? It’s not in any of the official texts.
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TheMc
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Really? A funeral is not a celebration of someone’s life. That is what the luncheon is for. The purpose of a funeral is to pray for someone’s soul.
If you think otherwise, cite your sources.
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formerlysure
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The light refers to Jesus’ resurection and ascension into heaven, and the gift of hope and life everlasting for all of us for which He suffered.
I have many purposes in attending mass, and one of the more important among those purposes is to celebrate what I and many others sometimes refer to as His light.
There is some value not only in Mass, but in life generally, in considering the intentions of things people say and not going out of our way to misinterpret and look for reason to take offense by assigning some unintented, ugly motives to well-meaning people. Assigning false, unintended motives to others strikes me as the same thing as bearing false witness.
Are we truly to believe that because a priest makes a witty remark at Mass about sports, he has no reverence for God or the Mass? When a devout but well intentioned, well humored man has given his entire life in service to the Church, I think we can give him a bit more credit.
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TheMc
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Really? A funeral is not a celebration of someone’s life. That is what the luncheon is for. The purpose of a funeral is to pray for someone’s soul.
If you think otherwise, please cite your sources.
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Claire_from_DE
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Well no, I don’t. The deacon does that as he processes in carrying the Easter candle which has just been lit. The choir may then repeat it, I don’t remember right now.
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TheMc
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Actually, the deacon chants “Christ our Light,” and the people respond “Thanks be to God.”
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NewsTheMan
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Love_Divine
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As Catholics our funerals are supposed to be Requiem Masses, during which we pray for the repose of the deceased’s soul. It’s not supposed to be a celebration of the person’s life. Using the term Requiem Mass has fallen wayside since Vatican II, and it’s frequently referred to as a funeral now. It’s very appropriate for TheMC to assume you’re referring to a Catholic funeral given that this is a Catholic forum.
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NewsTheMan
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Sigh. Well, where I’m from a funeral =/= Requiem Mass though if you are Catholic a funeral includes the Requiem Mass and everything else on that day which is centred around the death of someone. In other words, if I say “I am going to a funeral” I mean a Requiem Mass and whatever is planned afterwards or before. If I weren’t going to everything else I would just say that I am going to a Requiem Mass. It’s just the way we speak, or at least the way I’ve been speaking and everybody tends to understand.
But this is very much off topic. I should’ve chosen my words wisely.
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Claire_from_DE
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Thanks for pointing that out. I was just checking on it earlier this morning. Following that, our deacon chants a long and beautiful prayer (or sequence?). And then at some point our choir sings “the light of Christ has come in to the world” to a lovely and memorable melody.
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zab
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lol…Sources please!
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