How would YOU respond to this statement?

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I would inform them that is untrue and if they persist I would tell them they don’t know anything about disagreements within Christendom.
 
Della said:
I too don’t wish to take the thread off topic. You could PM me about it. 🙂
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How is it off topic if we’re speaking to the differences in Christianity?

I agree with Puzzledtoo, BTW.

GG
 
Eichelbaum said:
It’s an oversimplification. Much of Christianity has much in common, but there are sincere differences and sincere difficulties as well.

As evidence for this we could list just a single example: the joint declaration by Lutherans and Catholics on justification.

While it’s true that this document might outline certain similarities between two theological schools in Christianity, it’s also true that the Catholic Church offered an official response to this document, which itself outlines certain impediments and clarifications which nonetheless continue to exist and which must be made in order to avoid confusion.

Examples of similarities and differences amongst Christian theologians could be multiplied.

Also, “basically the same” implies that there are certain doctrines which are essential to Christianity, and which distinguish the Christian faith from other religions. But how do we know which doctrines are essential and which aren’t? Who gets to decide and why do they have that authority?

I would use such questions to point a person in the direction of the Magisterium and the Papacy, using common apologetics along the way.
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Well, other religions have their “person”. Their god, their light, whatever you want to call it.

What distinguishes Christianity is the resurrection. No one else claimed to be God or resurrected from the dead.

Whoever does not believe the basic tenets of Christianity cannot call himself a Christian.
On this we should insist.

Understanding justification does not make one a Christian, for example. I could understand it a little differently from another church, but I’d still be Christian.

If I don’t believe Jesus is God, I cannot claim to be Christian.

IOW, maybe what I’m saying is that it’s not doctrine that makes us Christian, it’s Christ that makes us Christian. (little Christs).

No?

GG
 
PJM said:
“ALL Christian-religions are basically the same”; RIGHT?

Easter Blessings,

Patrick
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As the religion is practiced and observed one would have to say no.

If it is the Love of Christ that is seen as the foundation then yes. This yes also includes other beleivers.

Regards Tony
 
DaddyGirl said:
In fact, many did:

Osiris, Tammuz, Adonis and Attis, Dionysus, Odin, Ganesha, Apollonius of Tyana, etc…etc…

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Wait.

Who are these people?

I can’t remember learning about any of them!

I’d have to ask Professor Google who they are!

BUT

If i say

JESUS

Everybody knows who I’m talking about!!

Can we put Him in the same category these people were in? Was He just a crazy man?

Acts 5:34-39

GG
 
DaddyGirl said:
In fact, many did:

Osiris, Tammuz, Adonis and Attis, Dionysus, Odin, Ganesha, Apollonius of Tyana, etc…etc…

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Except that none of those were actually real people, with the exception of Apollonius of Tyana; and even then, the authenticity of details surrounding his life are dubious at best.
 
ctb95 said:
Except that none of those were actually real people, with the exception of Apollonius of Tyana; and even then, the authenticity of details surrounding his life are dubious at best.
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Not only that, but if you read the Acts verse i quoted - there were other Jews who actually proclaimed to be the Messiah - but nobody knows about them because it wasn’t true!

In Jesus’ case it was. This just proves more so than not that He was Divine.

GG
 
Alex_H said:
Well, the different denominations disagree with each other on so much. Should we baptize babies? Some say yes, some say no. Is Christ present in the Eucharist? Some say yes, others say no. Some say that communion is just symbolic and not really eating his flesh and blood. Should we confess our sins to a priest or to God alone? Some say the former, others say the latter.

So I guess what I’m saying is, with all these contradictory teachings between various denominations, how can they all be the same?
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Agreed, but for the sake of dialog is that position “TOO limited, TOO logical?”
 
puzzledtoo said:
“basically the same” Don’t all Christians believe Christ died on the cross for the redemption of all? Don’t all Christians believe that Christ rose from the dead and is coming back? Don’t all Christians believe that Christ is the only way to salvation? Isn’t believing these things basically what it means to be Christian?
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OK, but is a patial truth the same as “THEE Truth”?

In other words does TRUTH absolutely have to be singular per defined issue?

God Bless you
 
tseleehw said:
I have never bought into this idea/argument that all Christian religions are the same. You can take virtually any belief that you would believe to be universal amongst Christians and find some denomination out there that rejects it or believes in some modified variation of it. I would even go so far as to say that this is a downright dangerous attitude to have, at least for Catholics, as it has the potential for driving people from the Church. This is not to say that we should not participate in ecumenical activities with other Christians or not treat our fellow Christians with respect, but sadly some people seem to take this attitude to an extreme and I think it hurts efforts at evangelization. I believe Pope Benedict XVI spoke on this topic at some point.
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Good points,

Thanks
 
puzzledtoo said:
Thank you Della for explaining this a bit. I’m quite aware there are differences in beliefs especially when speaking of the eucharist. This is evident often on caf. I however had no idea there were the different beliefs such as you mentioned in your post regarding things I thought were basics and thus unifying.
I also would like if you don’t mind clarification between redemption and salvation. I may be a bit confused on that subject and didn’t know until I read your post that I may not understand these terms. I guess I am thinking they are the same. It’s probably off topic so I understand if you’d rather not. Thank you again. Blessings.
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They are not the same, but I’ll let Della explain that:)

Thanks for asking
 
ComplineSanFran said:
A Buddhist friend from Southeast Asia once told me that Christianity was a puzzle to him. Why did we have so many disagreements? If belief in the teachings of Jesus were at the core of the faith, why not accept that we were all of one family?

It’s true. From the outside, we do squabble over the smallest things. I am perfectly happy being Anglican in the way I worship and understand the Gospel, and I am perfectly happy to support anyone else in their journey with Christ. Sometimes I may scratch my head and say, ‘Really??!! You think THAT?’ But in the end, Jesus is the one we love and follow.
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“Smallest things”🤷

Are One God, One set of Faith beliefs, One Church actually “small things”

Is truth irrelevant?

Hod Bless you

Patrick
 
ComplineSanFran said:
A Buddhist friend from Southeast Asia once told me that Christianity was a puzzle to him. Why did we have so many disagreements? If belief in the teachings of Jesus were at the core of the faith, why not accept that we were all of one family?

It’s true. From the outside, we do squabble over the smallest things. I am perfectly happy being Anglican in the way I worship and understand the Gospel, and I am perfectly happy to support anyone else in their journey with Christ. Sometimes I may scratch my head and say, ‘Really??!! You think THAT?’ But in the end, Jesus is the one we love and follow.
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What in your opinion does it mean to “follow Jesus?”
 
Graceful_Lamb said:
My response would be “Basically the same?” Then, how come we have many Protestant denominations.

Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose again on the third day. Outside of that, I think there are probably many differences, such as Catholics believe in the Real Presence (not all Protestants believe that), Apostolic succession, Holy Orders, Mary (when I was Protestant Mary was the mother of Jesus, but that was about it), the way the Bible is interpreted, Reconciliation (the only Protestant denomination I know that has it is some of the Lutheran churches), and as far as I’m aware, Protestant denominations don’t normally have Eucharistic Adoration. There are many more differences. I would need a publisher. 😉
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Thanks, nicely done
 
Padres1969 said:
Short answer, “wrong”.

Long answer, it depends on what you’re meaning when you say Christian and what you’re describing as similarities and/or differences. But as a general rule, no not all Christian religions are basically the same. Many are the same on some basic fundamentals like the trinity, Christ dying for our sin, Christ rising from the dead. But even those that share those basic beliefs are different in how they interpret other things like the nature of salvation through Christ, forgiveness of sin, nature of priesthood, etc…
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OK then,

So truth “HAS” to be singular per defined issues, right.

Which Christian Faith then is the One True Faith:shrug:

God Bless you,

Patrick
 
ctb95 said:
Baptism is either a requirement for salvation, or it is not.

God is either a Trinity, or He is not.

Artificial contraception is either a sin, or it is not.

There is no middle ground on these issues- only right and wrong.
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And on these we AGREE:D

BUT does it actually answer the OPQ?🙂
 
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