How Would You Say This in Latin?

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Wasn’t sure where to post this.

I’ve been reading about St. Isidore of Seville. He is apparently proposed as the patron saint of the Internet.

I would like to say, in Latin, “St. Isidore of Seville, pray for us.”

I can’t seem to find it anywhere. I found that the Latin for his name is Isidoris Hispalensis, but I"m not sure about the declension and all that.

Help would be appreciated.
 
seeker_of_God said:
Wasn’t sure where to post this.

I’ve been reading about St. Isidore of Seville. He is apparently proposed as the patron saint of the Internet.

I would like to say, in Latin, “St. Isidore of Seville, pray for us.”

I can’t seem to find it anywhere. I found that the Latin for his name is Isidoris Hispalensis, but I"m not sure about the declension and all that.

Help would be appreciated.
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Sancta Isidoris Hispalensis, Ora Pro Nobis?
 
Close, but not exact. Ora pro nobis actually goes with the vocative, not the nominative. It’s almost always the same, except with nouns of the 2nd declension (which Isidorus is). Thus we read in the Litany of the Saints, for example, “Sancte Iacobe” rather than “Sanctus Iacobus.” And, it is Isidore, not Isadora; i.e. masculine, not feminine, so no “sancta.”

Sancte Isidore Hispalensis, ora pro nobis!
 
Sirach2 said:
Sancta Isidoris Hispalensis, Ora Pro Nobis?
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Sancta* for female saints, sancte for male saints (as you can see from fisheaters.com/litanysaints.html) – but judging from some of the other saints listed there (Lawrence, Vincent, Ambrose, etc.) I’m not sure that “Isidoris Hispalensis” is the correct form.

With the help of Google Translate, I would be inclined to say, “Sancte Isidori Hispalensis, ora pro nobis”
 
Erich said:
Sancta* for female saints, sancte for male saints (as you can see from fisheaters.com/litanysaints.html) – but judging from some of the other saints listed there (Lawrence, Vincent, Ambrose, etc.) I’m not sure that “Isidoris Hispalensis” is the correct form.

With the help of Google Translate, I would be inclined to say, “Sancte Isidori Hispalensis, ora pro nobis”
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More proof that Google Translate is useless…

–i is the vocative ending for nouns of the 2nd declension only if the nominative form ends --ius. (e.g. St Anthony, nominative: Sanctus Antonius, in vocative: Sancte Antoni, ora pro nobis.) Isidorus does not end -ius, thus the vocative ending is -e. Sancte Isidore. The Hispalensis follows 3rd declension, so the vocative is the same as the nominative. Sancte Isidore Hispalensis, ora pro nobis.
 
IesumPerMariam said:
Close, but not exact. Ora pro nobis actually goes with the vocative, not the nominative. It’s almost always the same, except with nouns of the 2nd declension (which Isidorus is). Thus we read in the Litany of the Saints, for example, “Sancte Iacobe” rather than “Sanctus Iacobus.” And, it is Isidore, not Isadora; i.e. masculine, not feminine, so no “sancta.”

Sancte Isidore Hispalensis, ora pro nobis!
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Thanks so much. 🙂
 
Why not just say it in English? I’m sure he’s learned it by now.

🤷
 
I’d love to know how to say mirror smasher in latin.

Speculaclast?
 
BobCatholic said:
I’d love to know how to say mirror smasher in latin.

Speculaclast?
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Haha. Actually, you’re mixing Latin and Greek there. Iconoclasm is borrowed from the Greek.

In Latin, speculi ruptor would literally translate to “smasher of the mirror,” if you still want to know.

In Greek, mirror is Κάτοπτρο, so perhaps “Catoptroclast” would work, but I don’t really know much Greek.
 
DaveBj said:
Why not just say it in English? I’m sure he’s learned it by now.

🤷
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I do believe there are many of us who love the language of the Church and wish to use it in prayer and after all no matter the speak God understands it all. :)Peace, Carlan.
 
ProVobis said:
DaveBj;10575182:
Why not just say it in English? I’m sure he’s learned it by now.
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Because English is too casual maybe? 😉
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“Si fueris Romae, Romano vivito more; si fueris alibi, vivito sicut ibi”…

Membra Ecclesiae Latinae sumus, ergo Latine loquamur! 🙂
 
IesumPerMariam said:
More proof that Google Translate is useless…
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Nothing is completely useless… it can always be used as a bad example. And anyway, Google’s Latin translator is identified as still being in the early stages of development.

Google Translate does do a fair job of giving at least a first order approximation. The reverse translation of “Sancte Isidore Hispalensis, ora pro nobis,” for example is “Saint Isidore Seville, pray for us.” I think we can figure that one out 🙂
 
Erich said:
Nothing is completely useless… it can always be used as a bad example. And anyway, Google’s Latin translator is identified as still being in the early stages of development.

Google Translate does do a fair job of giving at least a first order approximation. The reverse translation of “Sancte Isidore Hispalensis, ora pro nobis,” for example is “Saint Isidore Seville, pray for us.” I think we can figure that one out 🙂
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You’re right, it’s not totally useless, I suppose I exaggerated a bit. It’s just not very accurate, and no machine-operated translation ever will be (okay, another exaggeration – someday they’ll probably figure it out, but not yet). Their German translator has been around much longer, and it is still quite horrible. It works fairly well for giving you a sense of what a document says (though there are sometimes small errors with huge changes to the overall meaning), but not for composition.
 
Erich said:
Google Translate does do a fair job of giving at least a first order approximation.
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The Google Translator operates under an enormous database of previous translations, which may or may not be accurate or even literal. One can’t assume “sursum corda” means “lift up your hearts,” for example. GT might be more useful as a dictionary lookup, but that means word by word lookup rather than phrase or clause.
 
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