Why is this a problem for you? Somebody would die in any case; and the nature of human biology is such that if the woman dies early in gestation, so does the child, because his/her body has not yet developed.
Then why in any other utilitarian scenario Catholics are so ready to damn millions of lives for the so called sanctity of life.
Please explain your first sentence.
Most Catholics that I’ve seen post claim that a Catholic in that situation should not make a choice at all and thus allow the higher death rate to occur because it is not in our power to determine who’s human life is more worthy of protecting-despite the number of deaths being higher if you do not act.
Your train story is a straw man. A straw man is an error in argument/debate and is unhelpful for all parties. You are providing a scenario in which the solution to the argument is maliciously unanswerable to the person you’re directing your comment to. While the case of mother-and-embryo is a real moral dilemma which the Church must take into serious consideration, your proposed argument is the stuff of Hollywood fantasy. You may as well be asking what is God’s plan for the salvation of blue-skinned aliens on the planet Ghankobilu.
Just putting it out there: cynicism leads to sin.
.A healthy amount of cynicism can be healthy for a well-balanced world view. It helps one not get too expectant, kills perfectionism, not to mention it’s quite humbling. It also helps one be more aware of problems that are in need of solutions.So no, the human race is not one big joke. I’d very much doubt the Big Man would like you talking about his most beloved creation like that
Ok then let’s just get to the point. In a situation where a hundred innocent lives have to die unintentionally to save a million innocent lives? Honestly it feels like a catch 22, if you choose to save millions at the cost of the hundred lives then your essentially giving humanity a numerical value, though it seems that does seem to be the case for human life.
The issue is not the numbers involved but the principle of double effect, and that we are not to directly kill anybody.
Refer to GEddie’s post.
I see where you’re coming from, though I’d contend that optimism isn’t synonymous with naivety, and neither is cynicism synonymous with realism.A healthy amount of cynicism can be healthy for a well-balanced world view. It helps one not get too expectant, kills perfectionism, not to mention it’s quite humbling. It also helps one be more aware of problems that are in need of solutions.
Believe it or not, my sense of cynicism actually did quite the intellectual blow to an atheist who was arguing why people need God and religion when humanity alone seemed to suffice for what is Good. A gave him the “The Joke that is the Human Race” bit and he seemed both stunned and at a loss for a counterargument because it was true. With our kind so full and corrupted by imperfections since the Fall, we are a joke.
However, please know that I haven’t lost hope entirely (unlike Flavius here apparently). I admit it’s rather small compared to that of a saint but it’s still there. I think it’s because of our imperfections that we rely on God, don’t we?
OK? So who are you to take that kind of decision for another family like “don’t get a child, your children will suffer”?
You are factually wrong.
Not that I believe to be 100 percent correct, but that blog does not show me anything that proves I’m factually wrong.
Clarifying, I meant this subseries on the blog, starting with this message:
Just to give credit where due this is Bob Dylan’s All Along The Watchtower
Of course it is.Just to give credit where due this is Bob Dylan’s All Along The Watchtower
Been covered by numerous artists over the past 30 some odd years.