Human Papiloma Virus vacine, Need ammunition!

[Karin]

As someone mentioned, isn’t the idea that it would protect them in cases of rape the same argument that can and is used at times for putting your children on birth control?

I.e., preemptive protection?

Not the way I look at it…
I also have gotten my kids immunized against POLIO and MMR and other things…I guess that is pre-emptive in your eyes too…since they may or may not catch these diseases…I view it as protecting them against something that they may have no control over.
Having sex or not having sex they have control over (unless raped)…catching a disease they have no control over, in most cases.

 

[fiat1122]

Any genital contact. I diagnosed and treated many cases of genital HPV and it does not discriminate.

There is discussion about non-sexual transmission.

Autumn

No, but maybe the daughters can be taught not to allow their “boyfriends to have their hands down their pants.”

 

[astegallrnc]

No, but maybe the daughters can be taught not to allow their “boyfriends to have their hands down their pants.”

My reply is in response to how it is spread. To prevent infections, daughters AND sons should be taught chastity and live it. That is the cure for STDs.

Autumn

 

[He_Man]

Not the way I look at it…
I also have gotten my kids immunized against POLIO and MMR and other things…I guess that is pre-emptive in your eyes too…since they may or may not catch these diseases…I view it as protecting them against something that they may have no control over.
Having sex or not having sex they have control over (unless raped)…catching a disease they have no control over, in most cases.

So why not administer birth control, since they cannot prevent themselves from being raped? I guess I don’t see the difference.

 

[Karin]

So why not administer birth control, since they cannot prevent themselves from being raped? I guess I don’t see the difference.

Because I am not out to prevent a birth just a diease.

 

[TarAshly]

My reply is in response to how it is spread. To prevent infections, daughters AND sons should be taught chastity and live it. That is the cure for STDs.

Autumn

yea…in a perfect world…but we dont live in lala land…you have to be prepared.

 

[T1Catholic]

No, but maybe the daughters can be taught not to allow their “boyfriends to have their hands down their pants.”

You can teach your kids to be chaste but peer pressure and misguided hormones can often win out. I grew up with lots of good Catholic girls and while they did try to hold-out on sexual contact for awhile, I’d say everyone but one of them lost their virginity by 16. The other one held out until she was 19 and then gave in to her dream man (who gave her an STD after their first encounter). I would not be devasted if my daughter came home pregnant because of premarital sex (I’d be awfully disapointed). However, I’d truly be devasted if she died of cancer because of premarital sex or sexual contact that could have been prevented with a vaccine (as long as the vaccine was safe).

 

[astegallrnc]

yea…in a perfect world…but we dont live in lala land…you have to be prepared.

Oh I agree, but it isn’t only daughers who need to be taught chastity, which I am certain most if not all would agree to that.

I’d like to visit lala land.

Autumn

 

[Sheeniac]

I’ve always thought we have the obligation to take care of our health, as we’re created in God’s image. This issue to me is strictly about health, not morals. Should a rape victim have to worry about cervical cancer when the medical technology is available to protect against it?

If there were a proven, safe AIDS vaccine available, even though I’m single and have no plans on sex outside of marriage, I would TOTALLY be the first person in line.

c

Kudos to you. A family can raise someone to have good morals, but the way they actually live their life is not guaranteed.

I have HPV, and do get concerned about the risks. If I had kids and the medical opinion was that this was a good thing to do, I would have them innoculated in no time flat. Why not prevent against something that could be fatal?

 

[cecilia97]

Why not prevent against something that could be fatal?

I’m with you. Unfortunately, I think our society still has some of the thinking that “well, I’m a good person, it would never happen to me” and possibly even a little of the deadly attitude that “if someone contracts a fatal illness through sex, maybe they deserved it”.

 

[sanctareparata]

Kudos to you. A family can raise someone to have good morals, but the way they actually live their life is not guaranteed.

I have HPV, and do get concerned about the risks. If I had kids and the medical opinion was that this was a good thing to do, I would have them innoculated in no time flat. Why not prevent against something that could be fatal?

Maybe because some of us believe, since there are no long term studies done on this vaccine, that the vaccine *itself *could prove to be fatal for some. I mean, the oral polio vaccine gave people SV-40 cancer tumors. The pertussis vaccine can cause brain hemorrhages. The HiB vaccine made us available to more deadly strains of Hib…so no vaccine is without its risks, and death is a risk.

We can’t protect against everything in life that is fatal. We have to pick and choose. Driving in a car can be fatal, but I bet you still do it.

 

[BLB_Oregon]

I’m with you. Unfortunately, I think our society still has some of the thinking that “well, I’m a good person, it would never happen to me” and possibly even a little of the deadly attitude that “if someone contracts a fatal illness through sex, maybe they deserved it”.

Absolutely…although my support of the vaccine would be contingent upon researching whether the vaccine does indeed have a reasonable risk/benefit ratio, just as it would if it were supposed to give some protection against stomach or brain cancer. You don’t take every shot that comes down the pike.

Nevertheless, I think there is a world of difference between giving your daughter contraceptives and giving her this vaccine. Pregnancy isn’t a disease. Cancer is.

If I could give my children some vaccine that would make them less likely to become alcoholics or drug addicts, for instance, I would make the same choice. It is a matter of protecting health, not of giving permission for immoral behavior.

For instance, I know a doctor who gave his patient blood-pressure-lowering medication. The patient said, “I should just quit eating so much and lose weight.” The doctor said, “Yes, you should. In the meantime, we’re going to do what is best for your heart today.” The patient took the meds, lost the weight, and is now off the meds.

Should the patient have refused the blood pressure medication because their condition was due to gluttony and could be remedied by temperance? No. The patient was bound to do all they could to take care of their body. Amending their behavior was only a part of that.