Humans and Stardust

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Scientists say humans are made from stardust. This contradicts Genesis. Can Catholics believe we’re made of stardust?

Also does anyone have names of reputable scientists who say this is bunk?
 
And GOD created the stardust from NOTHING.
So I would say yes Catholics can believe that humans are made of stardust.

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Humans’ bodies are made up of elements like carbon and oxygen. The elements come from somewhere. When there are a lot of elements bunched together a long way away and reacting in certain ways we call them stars. The stars are the somewhere that elements come from.

Almost everything in the world that we can observe contradicts something in Genesis if you read it as literal history. The Catholic view is far more nuanced and cannot be simply refuted like the literalist view. (I’m not a believer)
 
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Scientists say humans are made from stardust. This contradicts Genesis. Can Catholics believe we’re made of stardust?

Also does anyone have names of reputable scientists who say this is bunk?
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Genesis says we’re made from earth. The earth was made from elements that were formed in stars. The stars were made by condensing gases. The gases were formed from processes started with the big bang. The big bang was…oh, what the heck. There’s only a few days left. Why am I replying to this?
 
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Scientists say humans are made from stardust. This contradicts Genesis. Can Catholics believe we’re made of stardust?

Also does anyone have names of reputable scientists who say this is bunk?
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Elements found in the earth and in humans come from the process of fusion that occurs after gases become dense enough to form a star. We’re not actually stardust except in a poetic sense.
 
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Scientists say humans are made from stardust.
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Think for a second what they mean by that.

In a particular sense, it can only mean that matter/energy is not created, but conserved. So, are you literally ‘stardust’, so to speak? Nah. It’s just a rather poetic way of speaking.

Ahh… scientists as poets. Who’d’ve thunk it?
 
Thank you G. I haven’t been on here for quite awhile but I have to tell you that when they close the board, I’ll miss your posts the most!
 
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Hope, the forums are about to close down… but you’ve started countless threads over the years on issues that go back to a literalistic reading of Genesis. You know the Church doesn’t require such a reading of Genesis. Why is this still an issue for you ?
 
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Can you tell me how you resolve the obvious problems with a literal interpretation of Genesis, @Hope1960? Like that the sky is not made of water?
 
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I don’t know. I’d have to ask my pastor about that.
 
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Hope your pastor has a really good imagination, can’t really talk out of that corner…
 
He’s a bright guy. I’m sure he’s well aware of the fact that the sky isn’t made of water. How he’d answer the question, I’ll have to ask him sometime.
 
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The Bible says dust and God’s breath (Gen 2:7). To me, that sounds like the four elements: earth (minerals), water, air (gases including carbon dioxide and ammonia), and fire (energy/heat/light). It also sounds like stardust. I say God can use whatever works.
 
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Everything was made by God, the atoms, the stars, the laws of physics etc. He set everything in motion so do not stress over what the scientists are saying, they are correct but they only see one thread of the immense tapestry that God has made.
 
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Humans Really Are Made of Stardust, and a New Study Proves It | Space
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Sure, but the article says that all that means is that “humans and their galaxy have about 97 percent of the same kind of atoms.”

Right now, someone in India is making butter chicken. The kinds of atoms that butter chicken is made up of are the same kinds of atoms that I’m made up of.

That doesn’t mean that I’m made up of atoms from India, though. (Or even that I’m made up of butter chicken!)

Know what I mean? It’s the difference between “same kinds of stuff” and “the same stuff”.
 
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Are we composed of stardust? In a way, yes. All the atoms in our bodies that aren’t hydrogen, helium, or Lithium (read: almost every single one) were made by fusion in star cores. Are we literally dust from stars? I don’t even know what that means. If by “dust” they mean “composed of the same material” then I’m partly the food my dad ate which helped create sperm.

And I’m definitely not peanut butter.
 
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