Humorous T-Shirt.... Serious Matter

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One of my wife’s dear friends is an RN (with an additional 1/2 the alphabet in sub-specialties after it). She specializes in cancer patients.
Recently her hospital sponsored a run/walk for breast cancer. My wife’s friend came up with the idea for a T-shirt… all participants of this team would get one to wear during the walk. From what she said they were a HUGE hit, and people wanted to just buy them, and make a donation.

Like I said, this run/walk was for breast cancer… the shirts said:
SAVE 2nd BASE!!
 
It’s funny and I like it, although it’s arguably inappropriate and it does make fun of a very serious illness. That said, it’s great if it could really help raise lots of money…

Yes, I voted for all the options! I realize I’m not being very helpful, but at least I understand your concerns! 😃
 
I voted for Not Appropriate and I Like It. It’s a tough call. The problem is the majority of people will understand the base reference in context of dating somebody, but it is realistically likely for it to be used for married couples! 🙂

It could be better if on one side it said “SAVE 2nd BASE” and on the other it said something like, “Don’t go to the base, without vows in place.”

😃
 
I’m quite impressed, and voted ‘I like it!’

This is a very effective, attention-grabbing slogan, and it’s humorous without making light of the problem itself. Indeed, after the little chuckle, it sends the message home especially to the one group that sometimes thinks ‘it’s not OUR problem’ - men. And I think nearly all women would find it funny too, and warm-hearted. Sure, it’s just-barely risque, but I mean really now - it isn’t dirty or anything, and even gradeschool kids (in the 1950’s, yet!) would only consider it slightly naughty in a fun way.
 
I think it’s cute, and I don’t even think it is inappropriate. Just unexpected.
 
I voted for Not Appropriate and I Like It. It’s a tough call. The problem is the majority of people will understand the base reference in context of dating somebody, but it is realistically likely for it to be used for married couples! 🙂

It could be better if on one side it said “SAVE 2nd BASE” and on the other it said something like, "Don’t go to the base, without vows in place."

😃
Now I would definitely buy that T-shirt!!! 👍
 
I voted “Not appropriate” and “makes light of a serious problem”.

Maybe it’s because I’m older, maybe it’s because women in my family have had breast cancer and not all the pink ribbons and ‘awareness’ and ‘cute’ sayings really get much a laugh when you’re nauseated from chemo and your hair falls out, and the LAST thing that you’re considering your breasts to be is ‘second base’.
 
I’m quite impressed, and voted ‘I like it!’

This is a very effective, attention-grabbing slogan, and it’s humorous without making light of the problem itself. Indeed, after the little chuckle, it sends the message home especially to the one group that sometimes thinks ‘it’s not OUR problem’ - men. And I think nearly all women would find it funny too, and warm-hearted. Sure, it’s just-barely risque, but I mean really now - it isn’t dirty or anything, and even gradeschool kids (in the 1950’s, yet!) would only consider it slightly naughty in a fun way.
👍 I agree 100%

Kim
 
I think we can sometimes get confused about permitting things simply because of the cause. If the cause were something different, then people would be outraged, but we cannot judge actions simply on whether it produces a good (like consequentialists do), but rather if the action itself is a good. The message of breasts being second base and its clear reference to illicit practices in the dating world sends the wrong message especially to our kids. Yes we want to support noble causes, but we cannot do things that are themselves likely to send the wrong message… what if this were something like a wet t-shirt competition, or the high school cheerleading squad dressing up in bikini’s for a car wash to help a Children’s Hospital?
I mean, if your daughter asked you why monthly self breast exams were good, would you say “To save second base of course dear”? If we see the importance of women’s health based upon objectification of body parts simply for pleasure, we degrade the thing we wish to save.
 
I like the shirt, but the problem is, for too many kids these days that’s not second base.
 
My favorite breast cancer t-shirt says SAVE THE TATAS! 😃
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To the people who think it inappropriate: the downfall of Western civilization will not be caused by terrorists, by secular humanists, or by the creation of police states. We’re doomed because we’ve forgotten how to be brightly, cheerfully ribald.

Think about it! We’ve got a long, shining tradition of well-meant, humorous lewdity ranging from Lysistrata to Shakespeare’s masturbation jokes to flat-out funktastic bootyshakin’. It’s nothing to be ashamed of: sex, higher purpose and all, is both profoundly human and inherently goofy.

So, save second base, and save civilization from going out not with a bang but with a silent, glowering stare. Because breasts – no matter their shape, size, or relative position vis-a-vis knees – are a glorious, glorious thing.
 
I do take issue with the idea that we have ‘forgotten’ how to be ‘cheerfully ribald’. Of course that sounds so much more tolerant, humanist, even** caring** than ‘indecent’, ‘inappropriate’, ‘making light of serious subjects’. Cheerful acknowledgement of the glory of sex (between married couples) was always a part of society; the ‘teasing’ was not made to excite prurience (though that came somewhat later) but above all, there was a real knowledge of right and wrong. Right behavior was rewarded; wrong behavior condemned; actions had consequences.

Golly gee whiz, in today’s culture people trying to even question ‘cheerful ribaldry’, ‘glorious breasts’, ‘entertainment’,
free speech, and especially the glories of sex (not to be confused with the chains of ‘married’ sex, of course, but rather the ‘free’, the ‘wild’, the unconfined etc.) are immediately labeled as
Puritans
out to ‘foist their morality’ (usually a repressive, anti-anything-FUN set of rules) onto the ‘cheerfully ribald’ regular guy or gal who just wants some ‘fun’ in life.

Balderdash. It’s a marketing triumph that so many good things–so many virtues–have been twisted into appearing either for the stupid or the terminally ‘unwanted’ and so many vices twisted into virtues.

So, Mirdath, I ask you–when was the last time a slogan about ‘second base’ was applied to married couples? You know it is not, because the whole premise of ‘second base’ is predicated on this being sexual ‘experimentation’ between the unmarried, and for the most part, between the young, teen unmarried. I know in your world ‘safe’ sex between those paragons of ‘civilized’ teens who not only know how to ‘guard’ against complications like disease or unplanned pregnancy, and who also are so mature that when the relationship ends they can walk away with ‘self esteem’ totally intact, who view sex as just another ‘fun’ activity for the body, another ‘experience’ just like drinking, smoking, dancing, etc., is just ‘peachy’. In my world (the one in which I was born, grew, married, and raised children who are now ready to become parents themselves) there is no such thing as ‘safe’ sex for teens, in that they are neither physically nor emotionally ready for it, where disease and unplanned pregnancy result more often than not, and when the relationship ends one or both are emotionally devastated often to the point of mutilating behaviors, long term emotional disorders, or even suicide or homicide. This ‘real world’, in which the constant drumming of sex as ‘fun, fun, fun’; and cheerful ribaldry’ like ‘second base’ is presented as healthy and normal, the reduction of Shakespeare’s plays to ONLY the ‘comic’ aspects of sex (ignoring the many portrayals of men and women as devoted husbands and wives), the saturation by society that women are to be ‘hot’ and men to have as much ‘action’ as possible, is, at least, the prelude to the downfall of civilization. . .real ‘civilization’ in which men and woman do not act like mindless animals bent only on titilating their jaded selves.

A lot of people out there are sexual ADDICTS, and it appears even more are voyeuristically addicts as well. Not all that long ago, it was ‘shocking’ to hear profanity on TV–now it’s shocking if it is NOT used. Every year we get a little ‘more’ added to keep us from being bored by the same-old-same-old. Of course, it’s so easy to claim that ‘if you don’t like it, change the channel’. We do, anyway. But that ‘channel’ is impacting us in that when we, or (for you men) your wives, mothers, and daughters are degraded, even in ‘little things’ like being taunted for not ‘looking hot enough’, or if we don’t choose to watch, for being ‘out of it’. Name calling is rude and nasty enough. But we, or your wives, mothers, and daughters, are being raped, even murdered, by people for whom this steady diet of objectification has produced unhealthy, even deadly, appetites. Think about THAT the next time you examine your viewing habits. Think about how dulled and inured you are to thoughts, and actions, that your parents, grandparents, and those even further back, would have found alarming–that they fought to keep from happening as they knew the danger it was to society, to women especially.

Can you imagine the marshall of that town in the west in 1870telling the people on the street to ignore the profanity of their children? Encouraging the women to dress scantily? Encouraging men to ‘get to second base?’ Heck, no. Yes, things went on there (we all know about the prostitution for example) but today, rather than try to help the PROSTITUTES to adopt proper social behavior by repudiating the WRONG behavior, it seems to me that we have forced the ‘wives, mothers and daughters’ into adopting the PROSTITUTES’ behavior, the wrong behavior, so that everybody is equally wallowing in wrong, and the ‘right’ behavior is a subject for mockery and derision.
 
Golly gee whiz, in today’s culture people trying to even question ‘cheerful ribaldry’, ‘glorious breasts’, ‘entertainment’,
free speech, and especially the glories of sex (not to be confused with the chains of ‘married’ sex, of course, but rather the ‘free’, the ‘wild’, the unconfined etc.) are immediately labeled as
Puritans
out to ‘foist their morality’ (usually a repressive, anti-anything-FUN set of rules) onto the ‘cheerfully ribald’ regular guy or gal who just wants some ‘fun’ in life.
I never called you a Puritan – although having had to scroll to read your post in its entirety, I must confess you do an excellent job making yourself look like one 😉

I’m not saying ‘okay, everybody, time to rut in the streets!’ I simply think we should not be afraid of other people, that we should appreciate the beauty of the human body, and that we should laugh honestly at silly things.

In many ways, I think our opinions on the sexualization of anything and everything that goes on today are more similar than different – even if they’re coming from opposite ends of the spectrum. When I say ‘ribaldry’, I’m not talking about the degradation and exploitation one finds in tv programs (which, for the record, I do not watch – our set only gets used for video games), advertisements, and probably soon enough a toothpaste cap near you. That’s crass, disgusting voyeurism. It’s doing it wrong.

Where we differ is basically that I think there’s still a place for Bocaccio in this world. I don’t believe sex should be ‘set apart’ on some kind of pedestal – it’s fair game for storytelling, for the arts, and for humor.
 
Where we differ is basically that I think there’s still a place for Bocaccio in this world. I don’t believe sex should be ‘set apart’ on some kind of pedestal – it’s fair game for storytelling, for the arts, and for humor.
Sex is both sacred and profane --not in the more commonly understood meaning for the latter, but rather, sex is both sacred (spiritual) and physical. Where Bocaccio (and Shakespeare) --both of whose works, among many others, this “puritan” thoroughly enjoys–differ from the vast majority of today’s infotainment succubi is in their understanding of the ‘sacred’. Without the firm bedrock and without its proper place straddling (if you will) both realms, sex is either elevated almost to ‘godlike’ status by emphasizing ONLY the spiritual, or turned into near-bestiality by emphasizing ONLY the physical.

We have not seen the former in centuries; we do not see it today. By such saturation of the latter POV, almost any attempt to try to bring back any sense of the former makes it APPEAR that those proponents are trying to emphasize ‘only the spiritual’ --a ‘pendulum effect’ perception only.

From your post, Mirdath, I see we are indeed closer in spirit, but that we’re approaching the situation in different ways. You turn off the TV because it’s ‘doing it wrong’ by going too far. I agree with that. But unless we address the root cause, TV isn’t just suddenly going to ‘get it’. Grassroots activism by millions of people whose own personal level of ‘ribaldry’ understanding is just mass confusion as each person quarrels over ‘how much’ is too much. Until we reach a common understanding that it isn’t the ‘too much’ factor but the jettisoning of the balance --the spirituality and the morality–which tipped us into this morass–things will continue to worsen.

God bless.
 
I admit that I found the shirt funny and clever. I do not really have a problem with it any more than a joke that involves the word “prostitute.”
 
I think that in times of crisis it is sometimes a laugh that can get you through. I remember after my cousin passed away from a rare blood cancer at 3 years old that we all met out after the services. Everyone was mentally, emotionally, and spiritually exhausted from the turmoil of watching her die. At the dinner, we were all so stressed and then someone said something that just broke the deathly silence. We all started cracking up and laughing - hysterically, I might add. It helped to heal our pain. Some might say to feel guilty but I don’t.

In my family and close friends, we have medical personnel and fire fighters. They are, by far, the first to crack a joke. At first I didn’t get it and then I thought how difficult it must be to come home from work and have to deal with having dragged a charred body out of a building. Then I thought, without a little humor, how could they possibly make it through their day?
 
my father on his death bed joked that he wasnt going to die just yet because he didnt want to miss what happened next on his favourite TV show, it was a good joke.
if you dont like the shirt or something else offends you then dont buy it and walk away:thumbsup:
 
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