Hung Up on the Bad Ones (super long, so sorry)

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You guys, I’m in a bad spot right now. Quick background, I was with a guy for about 6 years. During this period there was a lot of good times but also a lot of bad times. He would go out a lot with his friends, get drunk and either come home and do cocaine and stay up until the sun came up or he would get drunk, come home and then end up beating me. The latter didn’t happen a lot, maybe once every 6 months. I know it shouldn’t have happened at all, but I’m just letting you guys know how it was.

I have always been the type of person who is stable, understanding, “keep the peace”, etc. type of person. He was the type that was always going out drinking (I don’t drink, much less do drugs), angry, always stressed out ,etc. Like I said, there was a lot of good times of course, the conversations we would have (he’s highly intelligent), we would laugh all the time, life seemed easy and simple because we were so young. His family loved me and my family loved him. No one knew of our fighting and how bad it would get, etc.

Anyway, I left him after 6 years. I had never really been on my own and I felt like I was dying to be independent. We had been drifting apart for the last year. He had cheated on me during the relationship and I cheated on him the last year we were together (neither of us found out about the other until months after breaking up). No good was obviously coming from our relationship. I moved out and was miserable for the first year or so, always crying, missing him. His mom would come over and I would lay my head in her lap and just weep while she smoothed her hand over my hair.

Its been almost 4 years since I left him. I moved back home to Arkansas to be closer to my family, life was getting a lot easier (concerning my feelings and thoughts for him). I have always stayed in touch with his mom because she was like a second mother to me. About 2 1/2 months ago I called his mom and he answered the phone. I was in shock. Just to clarify, I talked to him on the phone right before I moved, he cried, I cried, it was horrible. All in all we both knew I was doing the right thing.

Anyway, so him and I have been talking on the phone for the last few months. He flew here and had Christmas with me and my family, everything was so nice. It seemed as though we had both done a lot of growing up. We had several serious talks about the past and when he left we agreed that we would just see how things go between us and don’t rush back into anything.

I meant to add that while we were broken up (him in Texas, me in Arkansas) he had a girlfriend and she got pregnant. They had broken up about 3 weeks before we talked on the phone for the first time here recently. Their daughter will turn 1 in a month.

Gosh, this is so long, I’m so sorry you guys. Anyway, like I said, we had a really good visit while he was here, everything was great. We’ve talked on the phone since his visit and last week I booked him a flight to come back up this coming Thursday.

The last time I talked to him was this past Friday night. Saturday evening I was worried because I hadn’t heard from him all day and his cell phone was off so I called a friend of his and the friend said that the ex-girlfriend was there visiting him (my ex-boyfriend). Its now Tuesday morning, his phone remains off and he has yet to call me.

On Sunday I cancelled the flight and left him a message on his cell saying that if going back to her was what he wanted to do then that was fine, also telling him that I just wanted him to be happy, etc. It was a nice message I left, nothing ugly or nasty.

Now I feel like I’m in such a state of depression. I missed Mass on Sunday because I felt so heartbroken and angry. All I wanted to do was sleep. Over the last few months I have wired him a lot of money because he said he needed it for this or that, $3,000 to be exact. When he was here we went shopping and I spent at least $2,000 on him. The dollar amount wasn’t the issue, it was the principle of it. Every time I wired him money he would always say he would send it back but I always told him not to. As long as he was taken care of that’s all that mattered. I couldn’t stand the thought of him having nothing or very little.

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This man was my first true love, someone I would walk through fire for. Now that you know the whole story, my question is this: Why do we always seem to be hung up on the ones who treat us the worst? Especially when we don’t see having a future with them?? Is it because of the challenge of trying to change them or hoping they will change FOR us (when in all reality they’ll only change for themselves, if they change at all)? I’m seriously trying to figure this out. Life was fine for me until he reappeared in my life. Now I’m stressed, sad, confused, not involved in my parish in the slightest, I rarely come here anymore. Its as if I’m consumed with him (again). I’m mad at myself for getting “suckered back in”.

I seriously don’t know what steps to take to get out of this state of mind I’m in. I’m going to go to Mass tomorrow, go to confession concerning this past Sunday and just kneel and pray for as long as I can.

Once again I apologize for the length of this. I just beg of all of you to please offer your insight, your experiences concerning these types of issues, etc. Whatever you can add will be immensely appreciated by me. I’ve missed you guys.
 
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This man was my first true love, someone I would walk through fire for. Now that you know the whole story, my question is this: Why do we always seem to be hung up on the ones who treat us the worst? s.
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the relationship you describe is not about love, it is about exploitation and manipulation and selfishness. since you ask for advice, mine is to first read and meditate upon 1 Corinthians Chapter 13 to learn what true love is about. Second, to obtain counselling to answer the question you have posted here. Good luck we will be praying for you (also for the new girlfriend who is embarking on her own lifetime of heartake with this jerk, and for their poor little child who will be hurt by it).
 
Been there, done that. He ended up raping me twice.

Why do we end up with these guys? Because we feel bad about ourselves. Did you have a difficult home life growing up? You may have internalized some ideas about relationships and love that way. Also, as women, we try to “fix” our men, sometimes in a futile attempt to “fix” our past.

!2 step groups are a wonderful way to heal, along with alot of prayer. It worked for me.
 
You’ve been conned by a con artist. So far he’s conned $5,000 from you. Are you going to keep being conned or are you going to make the decision to stop this?

A real man wouldn’t be taking money from a woman like that. A real man wouldn’t **ever **beat you. A real man wouldn’t dump a woman with their one month old child - how could he walk away from that responsibility he has to that child? A real man wouldn’t start back with you, then let you book a flight to visit him, and then stop answering the phone because he’s with his other ‘ex’ for a weekend ‘retreat’.
This con artist is not a real man. You DESERVE a real man.

My advice - get counseling, today,make the appointment today. Don’t answer calls from the con artist. He will call you back eventually because you’re a source of cash.
 
Lorrie -

It is not going to be easy, but - stay close to Jesus AND fill your life with positive things (get back involved with the Parish - if they don’t have enough to keep you busy, we always need help over at mine :D).

The feelings of attachment will not go away overnight, but, take it from me - it can happen.

More to come in a PM.
 
Hi Lorrie,

There has been good advise given to you here! You sound like a really nice person, too nice in fact. He has a hold on you, ONLY because you allow him too. You need to move on and break all ties with him AND his family. Don’t contact the mother as often. If she was like a second mother, then she whould’ve kicked her son into touch! Time heals! As you said before, you hadn’t spoken to him in a while and actually started feeling a lot better! So you have proved it to yourself already!

Stop letting him rule your life! :tsktsk:

Any man that hits a woman is not a man!

Join a club of some sort. Join a hiking club or a book club. Get out. And don’t try so hard to look for another man. You will eventually find that guy. Your heart will skip a beat when you see him. Your toes will curl. :love: And you will wonder why you hung onto this twit!

Lastely, you need God in your life. Don’t walk away from Him. Talk to Him, pray incessantly to Him. He will help you. God is great! You are great! He made you and loves you!

:blessyou:

Good luck and I will say a prayer for you…👍
 
Lorrie,

It is only natural that you felt a very strong attachment to the first man that you loved. Your relationship with him lasted for six years! That’s a very long time. Additionally, I would infer from your post (and I could be wrong) that the two of you slept together and possibly lived together. You shared with him the greatest intimacy anyone on earth can share with another human being. Of course you are attached to him!

That said, he seems to be a very destructive individual. He’s abusive, both with drugs and with you. Now he says he has grown yet he left a woman and their young child! Then he treated you poorly by ignoring your phone calls.

He will contact you again. He will appologize. He will say that he has changed. Do you have any reason, based on his previous behavior, to believe him?

My advice for you right now is to seek God. Don’t do anything that makes you feel far away from Him or makes you feel despair. Don’t associate with anyone who makes you feel that way. Draw close to Him and people who care about Him. Go and speak with the priest at the parish you mentioned. Tell him what’s going on and ask him where you can find good Catholic counseling. With time and prayer, God can heal.

God bless you.
 
Lorrie, my heart bleeds for you.

I’ve been there. I was deeply in love with a sick puppy of a man. I wasn’t too healthy myself. Neither of us knew anything about how to love the other person - neither of us read 1 Cor 13…

I finally realized that my sanity was at stake, and broke up with him.

Did I stop loving him? No. Did I cry for a year? Yes.

Then I commenced taking care of my own mental health (as opposed to worrying about his), and growing spiritually.

Now - some 30 years later - I have been married to Mr. Right for almost 8 years. He shares some of the qualities my old boyfriend had, but without the sickness. I love him from the soles of his feet to the thinning hair on top of his head!

But guess what? I still love my ex. I still wish the best in the world for him - second to my hubby. Time has healed my heart, so that my old love is just a mellow glow, rather than a passion; I look back with compassionate pity for both of us.

So my message of hope for you is that you don’t have to stop loving him - just take that love and wrap it up in nice paper, and put it at the bottom of your mental closet. Train yourself to think along these lines: “We really had something there. Too bad we were too sick to work it out.” Cultivate a sadness at the **waste **of what could have been.

I would suggest ending your relationship with his mom. It will be a hindrance in letting this affair drift into the past, where it belongs.

And remember that men and women have equal dignity. If you have a boyfriend that messes with your dignity, you do not have the fullness of Godly love.

And I highly recommend celibacy! it will help you get your head on straight! I’m speaking from experience - of both kinds…

Feel free to PM me if you like. And here’s a cyber-hug:

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Ruthie:
…So my message of hope for you is that you don’t have to stop loving him - just take that love and wrap it up in nice paper, and put it at the bottom of your mental closet. Train yourself to think along these lines: “We really had something there. Too bad we were too sick to work it out.” Cultivate a sadness at the **waste **of what could have been…

And remember that men and women have equal dignity. If you have a boyfriend that messes with your dignity, you do not have the fullness of Godly love.
Some profoundly wise advice. What a gift.
 
You see Lorrie…

You haven’t even met any of these people and they care for you…! Not even he has shown this amount of concern!

Move on… And fall in love with Our Saviour Jesus Christ :dancing: :clapping:

:amen:
 
Thanks you guys for all the replies, I appreciate each and every one of them. They were all packed with wonderful advice. Today was better than yesterday and I’m sure tomorrow will be better than today. I’m not nearly as sad as I was when I began this thread. I don’t feel bitter, I guess I just feel like I should’ve known better, it was so predictable of him. Feeling disappointed in myself is definitely the correct term for the day. 😉

What upsets me the most is the fact that I missed Sunday Mass over him. As most of you know (or may not know) I’m the type that usually goes to Mass a few times during the week and of course every weekend. It won’t take much for me to get back into the swing of things since I’m so in love with the Church.

Everything will work out. I think the key here is to look forward, think positive thoughts and, of course, pray a lot.

Like I said, thank you all for your wonderful replies. Its such a great feeling to know one can come here and always get sound advice and encouragement. Its obvious God is working through each and every one of you. May God bless you and the Blessed Virgin Mary keep you all.
 
Thanks for the kind words Lorrie 🙂

You sound like a stunning person! You sound like you have the love of Christ deep rooted in you.

If you ever need to chat, feel free to mail me.

A very big warm hug to you all the way from sunny South Africa 😃

May God bless and protect you. 👍
 
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