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Hungary's constitution: pro-life, but no recognition for Islam, 'smaller Catholic orders' [CWN]
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I hope most readers realize by now that this ‘de-certification’ of all these ‘religions’ is about so very many receiving money from the government, not about anyone’s freedom to exist or publish or recruit or worship in whatever way they wish. Some of the religions decertified had no members at all! The new constitution establishes ‘religious liberty’ the same as in the rest of Europe.
And that will hurt them eventually, producing the same chaotic moral sense among the people that we have here. Don’t be fooled, either, that they have said they are a Catholic state. They ‘recognize’ a Catholic saint-king and Christianity only as a historical legacy of which they are proud, but in fact so do some of the most secular countries in Europe, like Germany, for example. For all the good it does. Religious liberty is not traditional Catholic teaching (see Cardinal Ottaviani for an excellent summary here: catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/americanism/duty.htm), but Vatican II changed that teaching in Dignitatis humanae.
They make a commitment to the poor, but do not interpret that the liberal way, and have kicked large groups (like the Roma, or gypsies as we might call this ethnic group, but also others) off the public dole, on which they have been by entitlement. The FIDESZ government seems to have made sound economic provisions, and the IMF and EU have found it hard to criticize them on that basis, although they want to very much, because what is truly hated, and yet not much attacked directly, is their pro-life, anti-gay measures. (Let me say that I am not educated in economics, and my intense interest in this particular topic is due to my pro-life work, but I have found many sources in the last week to explain to some degree the measures they have taken, compared to the recommendations the EU made in their general crisis to every member state–and which are being resisted by every member state! You can do the same google searching. I can’t list the scores of sites I read to make the above statements.)
So they are resisting secularism, but it’s VII lite style, and in my opinion, that might reset the situation some years back, but not change enough to stop it from continually recurring. The only real fix is the restoration of a true Catholic state. The economic provisions of the Catholic state are what is needed in the economics area–tough regulation of profits but broad distribution of ownership, thorough on the job discussion of production and wages across class, not in the form of class warfare that has all the secular states locked up presently, and the recognition of a Catholic moral code–not to mention the true brotherhood produced by communion. That’s what actually is needed to solve the crisis. I mean for Europe, where Catholics have a majority of the population, which Ottaviani says is a requirement. For here in the US, I have no clue what kind of compromises we’d have to begin with, with the ultimate end of the Catholic state in mind.
And that will hurt them eventually, producing the same chaotic moral sense among the people that we have here. Don’t be fooled, either, that they have said they are a Catholic state. They ‘recognize’ a Catholic saint-king and Christianity only as a historical legacy of which they are proud, but in fact so do some of the most secular countries in Europe, like Germany, for example. For all the good it does. Religious liberty is not traditional Catholic teaching (see Cardinal Ottaviani for an excellent summary here: catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/americanism/duty.htm), but Vatican II changed that teaching in Dignitatis humanae.
They make a commitment to the poor, but do not interpret that the liberal way, and have kicked large groups (like the Roma, or gypsies as we might call this ethnic group, but also others) off the public dole, on which they have been by entitlement. The FIDESZ government seems to have made sound economic provisions, and the IMF and EU have found it hard to criticize them on that basis, although they want to very much, because what is truly hated, and yet not much attacked directly, is their pro-life, anti-gay measures. (Let me say that I am not educated in economics, and my intense interest in this particular topic is due to my pro-life work, but I have found many sources in the last week to explain to some degree the measures they have taken, compared to the recommendations the EU made in their general crisis to every member state–and which are being resisted by every member state! You can do the same google searching. I can’t list the scores of sites I read to make the above statements.)
So they are resisting secularism, but it’s VII lite style, and in my opinion, that might reset the situation some years back, but not change enough to stop it from continually recurring. The only real fix is the restoration of a true Catholic state. The economic provisions of the Catholic state are what is needed in the economics area–tough regulation of profits but broad distribution of ownership, thorough on the job discussion of production and wages across class, not in the form of class warfare that has all the secular states locked up presently, and the recognition of a Catholic moral code–not to mention the true brotherhood produced by communion. That’s what actually is needed to solve the crisis. I mean for Europe, where Catholics have a majority of the population, which Ottaviani says is a requirement. For here in the US, I have no clue what kind of compromises we’d have to begin with, with the ultimate end of the Catholic state in mind.
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My full support to the Hungarian government.
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