Hungry for Hymns

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The Adoremus hymnal is accumulating cobwebs and dust.

I have never had to open it.

Where can I get my hymn fix in the traditional Catholic world?

I know it won’t be in the TLM mass itself.

Are there other types of traditional services where hymns are sung? Lots of them.

Thanks.
 
Benediction – if you can find it anywhere! (Usually at the conclusion of Adoration.)

Tantum Ergo, O Salutaris Hostia, Holy God We Praise Thy Name
 
If you wish, please talk to whomever is in charge of music at your parish and ask for traditional hymns to be used in the Liturgy. There are so many opportunities in the Novus Ordo for “good” hymns to be used that you could expect at least ONE every once in awhile.

You can also try to find a parish where Morning or Evening or Night Prayer is recited (or sung). A traditional hymn starts each of these hours.
 
JamestheOlder said:
If you wish, please talk to whomever is in charge of music at your parish and ask for traditional hymns to be used in the Liturgy. There are so many opportunities in the Novus Ordo for “good” hymns to be used that you could expect at least ONE every once in awhile.

You can also try to find a parish where Morning or Evening or Night Prayer is recited (or sung). A traditional hymn starts each of these hours.
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Ah. Is that the Liturgy of the hours?
 
TheMc said:
Ordinary Form, Extraordinary Form. Also known as the “new Mass”, and the latin Mass.
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really silly question here, but is the EF the Latin Mass or vice versa. Thanks for answering my quesiton. I feel pretty silly for not knowing this. :o
 
Little_One0307 said:
really silly question here, but is the EF the Latin Mass or vice versa. Thanks for answering my quesiton. I feel pretty silly for not knowing this. :o
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Sorry, I was not clear. The EF is the latin Mass, the extraordinary Form, and the OF is the “new” mass, the ordinary form.
 
TheMc said:
Sorry, I was not clear. The EF is the latin Mass, the extraordinary Form, and the OF is the “new” mass, the ordinary form.
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Thanks. And one more question I promise. In your sig what does the abbreviation stand for with all the letters? God bless.

Little One0307
 
TrueLight, what do you mean by “traditional hymns”?

To me, as an ex-Protestant, “traditional hymns” includes hymns like “Praise Ye The Lord The Almighty,” and “Crown Him With Many Crowns,” which are familiar to Catholics. But “traditional hymns” also includes hymns like “To God Be The Glory,” “Blessed Assurance” (both Fanny Crosby hymns), “When I Survery the Wondrous Cross,” “There Is A Fountain Filled With Blood,” “The Solid Rock,” “If Ever I Loved Thee,” and of course, “How Great Thou Art.”

In other words, I include hymns that were written in the 1800s and 1900s in my list of “traditional hymns.” I honestly don’t think most of these hymns, especially the Fanny Crosby hymns, would have any conflict in the words with Catholicism. In fact, some Catholic hymnals include Fanny Crosby songs, but I’ve honestly never heard them done. I think a lot of Catholics don’t know them.

I think that when Catholics hear the term “traditional hymns,” they think more along the lines of some of the Latin hymns like “Te Deum,” and “Tantum Ergo,” as well as some of the Marian hymns like O Maria," and some of the very old hymns like “All Creatures of Our God and King.”

So can you clarify which hymns you’re missing?

Thanks.
 
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TrueLight, what do you mean by “traditional hymns”?
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I didn’t ask about traditional hymns, per se. What I meant was, since I mostly attend the TLM, where can I get to sing hymns in these traditional circles and are there any other types of services besides mass where people sing hymns.
To me, as an ex-Protestant, “traditional hymns” includes hymns like “Praise Ye The Lord The Almighty,” and “Crown Him With Many Crowns,” which are familiar to Catholics. But “traditional hymns” also includes hymns like “To God Be The Glory,” “Blessed Assurance” (both Fanny Crosby hymns), “When I Survery the Wondrous Cross,” “There Is A Fountain Filled With Blood,” “The Solid Rock,” “If Ever I Loved Thee,” and of course, “How Great Thou Art.”
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In other words, I include hymns that were written in the 1800s and 1900s in my list of “traditional hymns.” I honestly don’t think most of these hymns, especially the Fanny Crosby hymns, would have any conflict in the words with Catholicism. In fact, some Catholic hymnals include Fanny Crosby songs, but I’ve honestly never heard them done. I think a lot of Catholics don’t know them.
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I think that when Catholics hear the term “traditional hymns,” they think more along the lines of some of the Latin hymns like “Te Deum,” and “Tantum Ergo,” as well as some of the Marian hymns like O Maria," and some of the very old hymns like “All Creatures of Our God and King.”
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So can you clarify which hymns you’re missing?
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I’m referring to all the non-latin hymns you listed. I miss them!

All Creatures of Our God and King is awesome.

Tantum Ergo is not so awesome.
 
Most of the music I hear at Mass in numbing. It seems there is a search for the most obscure music in the book. One could argue that some music is rarely heard for a reason.

I too love the Fanny Crosby hymns, the stirring and the powerful, or any other hymns that are full of praise to Our Lord. I don’t care for music that has no discernible melody and has lyrics that are mushy.

Perhaps bad music is responsible for the lack of participation in Mass. As one priest said at our parish, singing is not optional. Maybe so, but it is rare. I often wonder why many entire families stand at Mass, look around, whisper, sway back and forth, look at their watches, and never, never, never pick up a hymnal. Maybe they have never been inspired to join into the type the music chosen. We have less of a spiritual experience when we don’t participate, so it really is an important issue.
 
Georgia said:
Perhaps bad music is responsible for the lack of participation in Mass. As one priest said at our parish, singing is not optional. Maybe so, but it is rare. I often wonder why many entire families stand at Mass, look around, whisper, sway back and forth, look at their watches, and never, never, never pick up a hymnal. Maybe they have never been inspired to join into the type the music chosen. We have less of a spiritual experience when we don’t participate, so it really is an important issue.
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The few times I have heard hymns sung, I have had no idea where to find the hymn. Before I’m done looking through the index to find the hymn the hymn is over.

Would it be disruptive for someone to say, such and such hymn on page 225?
 
First of all for the question, outside of the Mass the Officium divinum and also the Liturgy of the Hours is full with original Latin hymns. Above that back in the good old times I had a book titled Cantuale, full with Latin Hymns, not implemented in the Mass of Office. (In google church I did not find equivalent of that)

As for vernacular hymns my understanding is that in England for long time to be Catholic was banned, so their meetings including Masses were silent, and for some reason they had no vernacular hymns. When the ban was lifted for some reason Catholics were suspicious about the vernacular hymns, and labeled them as protestants. In Bavaria, Austria, Hungary and I suppose Poland there are Catholic vernacular hymns, some centuries old.

Last year I was in a concert where singers from the Notre Dame university sung good English hymns, mostly modern, some vocal only, some with instruments. I liked them, but I am sure that traditionalist label them if for not other reason than for the Notre Dame. Unfortunately they very rarely go for details about their despise.
 
TrueLight said:
The Adoremus hymnal is accumulating cobwebs and dust.

I have never had to open it.

Where can I get my hymn fix in the traditional Catholic world?

I know it won’t be in the TLM mass itself.

Are there other types of traditional services where hymns are sung? Lots of them.

Thanks.
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that is the very reason many Catholics from my generation have gone over to Anglican or even Lutheran churches, if not to join them, to attend services and even to sing in their choirs. At least by God’s mercy that treasury has lived on in them, ready for us to reclaim once the reform of the reform has been accomplished. We owe them a great debt of gratitude. For now however a better solution is CDs.
 
puzzleannie said:
that is the very reason many Catholics from my generation have gone over to Anglican or even Lutheran churches, if not to join them, to attend services and even to sing in their choirs. At least by God’s mercy that treasury has lived on in them, ready for us to reclaim once the reform of the reform has been accomplished. We owe them a great debt of gratitude. For now however a better solution is CDs.
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I sing in a Protestant choir once a month, so during that service I do get to sing hymns. I only wish I could get the same in the Catholic church on a weekly basis.
 
TrueLight said:
I didn’t ask about traditional hymns, per se. What I meant was, since I mostly attend the TLM, where can I get to sing hymns in these traditional circles and are there any other types of services besides mass where people sing hymns.

I’m referring to all the non-latin hymns you listed. I miss them!

All Creatures of Our God and King is awesome.

Tantum Ergo is not so awesome.
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Have you heard Matt Maher’s version of Tantum Ergo? I think it is called Adoration. I love it.
 
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