Husband copied a purchased CD and asked me to print label

[SaltySirena]

I would not bother a priest. At the very most it is a very minor venial sin. It would probably not help your scrupulosity to dwell on this.

While I agree that you should not feed your scrupulosity, this idea that you don’t need to confess venial sin is against Church teaching. It may not be urgent, but you do need to confess it as soon as you are able. As far as I know, if you aware that you have committed venial sin, but are truly repentant, you can still take Eucharist if immediate Confession is not possible. It’s mortal sin that bars one from Eucharist, and this one does not rise to that level!

So, in short, yes. Aiding someone in theft of this type is definitely a venial sin.

 

[marypar]

I was taught that venial sins are washed away during Mass and saying the Our Father during Mass. And that they do not have to be confessed since they were washed away.
And if necessary you can just say to the priest, “please forgive me for all my venial sins” without going into detail. But I remember a priest telling me they are forgiven during Mass.

 

[SaltySirena]

I was taught that absolution only occurs in the Sacrament of Reconciliation and that the Pentitential Rite during Mass was not sufficient for that.

 

[marypar]

Hi Salty Siren,
I found this on Catholic Answers (sorry it’s receiving the Eucharist):

Receiving Christ in the Eucharist forgives venial sins. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains, “As bodily nourishment restores lost strength, so the Eucharist strengthens our charity, which tends to be weakened in daily life; and this living charity wipes away venial sins” (CCC 1394).

My confessor also mentioned it to me. Maybe someone else here can confirm this.

 

[jorgeraul3]

LOL
This is as much of a sin as singing the Happy Birthday song…

Copyright laws are seriously outdated, hopefully they will be reformed…
Let’s pray for that.

 

[SaltySirena]

Huh, thanks marypar! i learned something today!

 

[SaltySirena]

LOL
This is as much of a sin as singing the Happy Birthday song…

Copyright laws are seriously outdated, hopefully they will be reformed…
Let’s pray for that.

Would you feel this way if it was your intellectual property, by which you make your living, being freely copied and distributed without you being compensated for your work?

Somehow I don’t think so…

 

[jorgeraul3]

Would you feel this way if it was your intellectual property, by which you make your living, being freely copied and distributed without you being compensated for your work?

Somehow I don’t think so…

Well, even if you doubt it I would still feel this way.

Copyright law is in serious need for reform.

 

[SHW]

I was taught that venial sins are washed away during Mass and saying the Our Father during Mass. And that they do not have to be confessed since they were washed away.
And if necessary you can just say to the priest, “please forgive me for all my venial sins” without going into detail. But I remember a priest telling me they are forgiven during Mass.

I had not heard that about venial sins being “washed away” during the Mass or during the recitation of the Our Father, but making the Sign of the Cross with Holy Water does remit venial sins. Mortal sins must be confessed, but not venial sins. It is a good idea to confess venial sins when you think of them since it helps you to refrain from sinning these sins again. (It gets mighty embarrassing confessing the same venial sins over and over.)

Personally, if you are uncomfortable typing the lists, then you should not type them. My neighbor wanted to buy wireless internet equipment for me so that she could then use my cable internet connection for free. I said that I would not be comfortable granting her request since I believed it to be immoral besides illegal so if she wanted the service, she should buy it herself. I told her that she was free to call the cable company and ask them if they minded if she did this and if they said “yes,” then we could discuss it again. That was the end of this problem for me.

 

[SHW]

LOL
This is as much of a sin as singing the Happy Birthday song…

Copyright laws are seriously outdated, hopefully they will be reformed…
Let’s pray for that.

Some low-budget Christian movie (can’t remember the name) producer wanted to use a song such as “Happy Birthday” in a scene and then found out that the fee to use it just “once” was $10,000, so the song was not used after all. They made up their own song instead.

Every song you sing in the shower should be kept track of and ASCAP and/or BMI payment sent in… Just kidding!

Most people only get paid once for doing one job, but people in the music business get paid over and over and over (and their heirs forever) for the same original work done once without any extra time or effort ever expended. Yes, I agree, the copyright laws are seriously outdated.

 

[marypar]

Hi SHW,
I posted above from the Catechism that venial sins are forgiven when you partake of the Eucharist.
Can you imagine if every venial sin had to be confessed before Communion? The Reconciliation lines would be so long and people who go to Daily Mass (like I do during work days) would never receive unless it is right after Confession.

 

[chaz0426]

how is it sinful? It’s under fair use I believe if it’s in the family. Copyright laws to that extent are flawed. It’s not sinful to share within your family if it is legally purchased.

 

[wcknight]

how is it sinful? It’s under fair use I believe if it’s in the family. Copyright laws to that extent are flawed. It’s not sinful to share within your family if it is legally purchased.

Would you really say that if it was your music in question ? IF instead of selling 50,000 copies this caused you to only sell 5,000 would you be singing the same tune ???

The brother who purchased the original has a right to ONE copy of the music or he can copy and use the music himself. Making copies and distributing to his family is in violation of the spirit of the law. It’s a minor sin for the most part.

But suppose the musician who owns this music if on the cusp of making a career of making music. Maybe this is the break through song or music that start him on a decent career or puts him back at McDonalds flipping burgers.

Copying music or software is a form of stealing. It’s taking something that does not rightfully belong to us.

Is this what you would like to have happen to you if it were your music ? Would you really say, go ahead and copy my music and give it to your brothers, I don’t mind or would you say, please have your brothers go out and buy their own copies.

 

[marypar]

Hi Wcknight,
Original poster here. I just asked about my typing the labels and the titles of the songs on a sheet of paper with no images to put in the CD box - that is what I was worried about for me. I know what my husband and brother are doing is wrong and I told them but they won’t listen. I just wanted to do the typing as a favor. Actually, I already typed the labels but since hubby didn’t ask me for them, I am holding them until he does ask.

 

[wcknight]

Hi Wcknight,
Original poster here. I just asked about my typing the labels and the titles of the songs on a sheet of paper with no images to put in the CD box - that is what I was worried about for me. I know what my husband and brother are doing is wrong and I told them but they won’t listen. I just wanted to do the typing as a favor. Actually, I already typed the labels but since hubby didn’t ask me for them, I am holding them until he does ask.

I would not help with letting my wife do something that I considered wrong. It’s not a major offense but I still would not assist with his misdeeds. It may be a little thing but if you can not stand on principle for the little things then how are you going to stand when there are big things?

 

[SaltySirena]

I just wanted to do the typing as a favor.

In legal parlance, that’s called “aiding and abetting.” Unfortunately, you become part of the sin by helping your husband commit it. He might take your protests more seriously if you didn’t help him with it. But then again, he might not.

 

[SHW]

Hi SHW,
I posted above from the Catechism that venial sins are forgiven when you partake of the Eucharist.
Can you imagine if every venial sin had to be confessed before Communion? The Reconciliation lines would be so long and people who go to Daily Mass (like I do during work days) would never receive unless it is right after Confession.

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

I am so grateful that I do not have to confess all venial sins before receiving Holy Communion. I’d be one of those persons in that long line every week.

When I make the Sign of the Cross with Holy Water, I always say, “By this Holy Water and by Thy Precious Blood, please wash away my/our sins, O Lord.” (I use “our” since I pray this on behalf of myself and also the Poor Souls in Purgatory.) I keep Holy Water in a bottle on my kitchen counter so that I use it twice a day.

 

[JimG]

Most people only get paid once for doing one job, but people in the music business get paid over and over and over (and their heirs forever) for the same original work done once without any extra time or effort ever expended. Yes, I agree, the copyright laws are seriously outdated.

So if you write a book or produce a CD, you should only get paid once, whether 50 copies or 50 million copies are distributed?

A performer whose CD sells 20,000 copies should be paid the same as one whose CD sells a mililion copies?

An author should be paid the same whether 5 copies or 50,000 copies are sold?

And after one showing of the latest blockbuster movie, all the other showings should be free?

 

[graceandglory]

I wouldn’t say it was sinful at all. The original copy was paid for, and as long as he’s not getting money out of his new copy’s then he’s totally within the law as well.

I’m not a moral theologian, I just play one in the forums.
As a former deejay though, I can say that it’s against the law to copy and give away extra copies. As a Christian, I would think it’s okay to make copies for my own personal use so I can have one in my house, and one in my car. It would be the sin of stealing, driven by the deadly sin of greed.

 

[graceandglory]

Some low-budget Christian movie (can’t remember the name) producer wanted to use a song such as “Happy Birthday” in a scene and then found out that the fee to use it just “once” was $10,000, so the song was not used after all. They made up their own song instead.

Every song you sing in the shower should be kept track of and ASCAP and/or BMI payment sent in… Just kidding!

Most people only get paid once for doing one job, but people in the music business get paid over and over and over (and their heirs forever) for the same original work done once without any extra time or effort ever expended. Yes, I agree, the copyright laws are seriously outdated.

My last post was as a former deejay. As a friend of many starving Christian artists, one a Catholic musician, I wouldn’t think of copying one of her CDs to give it to another friend. I would buy it directly from her. Scripture says that **“A worker is worthy of his (her) wages.” **

There are far more starving artists than wealthy ones. Truth is truth. Morality isn’t subjective, based on how rich we think the artist is.