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[JM3]

It’s time that the Catholic faithful stop thinking like Protestant Americans.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV

 

[maltmom]

There has never been and never will be a way to please the Catholic laity. Therefore, the Church does not try to do so. She listens like a good mother. In the end, like every good mother, she does what she thinks is better for the moment or for the future. Her children just have to live with it or there is the door.

It’s time that the Catholic faithful stop thinking like Protestant Americans. They do not own the Church. They have no legal vote in Church matters. They have a right to make their voices heard, but they do not have a right to have their wishes granted, because it’s humanly impossible to please everyone. They always have the freedom to leave the Church. The Church is a hospital for the sick, not a prison for the malcontent.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV

As much as I hate for anyone to leave the Church I agree with what you’ve said.

 

[ProVobis]

It’s time that the Catholic faithful stop thinking like Protestant Americans. They do not own the Church. They have no legal vote in Church matters.

That’s a most interesting point, JR, and I wonder if Americans have been too enamored with polls, especially when they think it leads to policies getting changed. How many polls, for example, have been taken on whether they like the new translations or not? Too many, IMO, and what’s the point? OTOH, the consecration of the Spanish Mass was changed to conform to “pro multis,” and I haven’t seen any polls asking if anyone liked it or not. They just accept it.

 

[JReducation]

As much as I hate for anyone to leave the Church I agree with what you’ve said.

Neither does Christ want anyone to leave. Yet, let’s not forget the conclusion to John 6. "They went away . . . "

That’s a most interesting point, JR, and I wonder if Americans have been too enamored with polls, especially when they think it leads to policies getting changed. How many polls, for example, have been taken on whether they like the new translations or not? Too many, IMO, and what’s the point? OTOH, the consecration of the Spanish Mass was changed to conform to “pro multis,” and I haven’t seen any polls asking if anyone liked it or not. They just accept it.

Exactly my point.

I can’t speak for every culture or every family. I can only speak for my own. When I grew up my mother decided what we ate, what we wore, when we went to bed, with whom we could play, what we watched on TV and so forth. I don’t ever remember her asking us or taking a poll of her five children’s wishes.

We complained and whined like any other kid. As we got older, my father would step in and say, “If you can’t do as MY WIFE tells you to do, there’s the door.”

I’ll never forget how my father always said, “my wife” not “your mother”. He defined the relationship in order of priorities. She was first his wife, then our mother.

It is the same in the Mystical Body. The Church is first the Bride of Christ. He will stand up for her and as he did in Chapter 6 of John, he will lay it out. Then we can stay or leave. His heart will be sad, as we see in John. But he is not a jailer.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV