Hymnody & the EF

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If anyone has the knowledge of the GIRM and whatever relevant documents and the like to answer this for me, I’d appreciate it.

In an EF High Mass, I know there are the Gregorian chant propers. In an NO Mass these can be replaced with a suitable hymn. Is such an alteration possible with the EF Mass? Such as, if a priest wanted a processional hymn in lieu of the proper Introit. I could be mistaken, but when I attended an EF High Mass in another state during Christmas time, they sang Angels We Have Heard on High or something like that.

Also, at the EF Mass I usually attend, there is a hymn only at the end, perhaps akin to the Recession hymn of an NO Mass. Is this the norm?

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At High Mass in the EF, the processional need not be – and normally is not – the Introit. Usually, there is a processional hymn, followed by the Asperges rite, after which Mass begins and the Introit is sung. Technically, Mass does not start until after the Asperges, when the priest is vested for Mass and begins the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar.

For the recessional, a recessional hymn is normally sung. Mass is completed by that point, so there is no “Proper” for it. Hymns may also be sung during the Offertory and during Communion, in addition to, and after, the Propers.

BTW, the GIRM has no application to the EF.
 
TrueLight said:
Is there a comparable document for the EF, aside from the Missal?
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The equivalent is IN the Missale Romanum. One must bear in mind, however, that various and sundry “options” are unique to the Novus Ordo, so the EF does not deal with things in quite the same way.
 
malphono said:
The equivalent is IN the Missale Romanum. One must bear in mind, however, that various and sundry “options” are unique to the Novus Ordo, so the EF does not deal with things in quite the same way.
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It’s good to know there are several parts of the mass where hymns can be sung. Problem is, I usually don’t know the hymns anyway.
 
TrueLight said:
Is there a comparable document for the EF, aside from the Missal?
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The EF Missale Romanum contains three documents at the start referred to in shorthand as Rubricae Generalis, *Ritus Servandus *and De Defectibus. The Rubricae Generalis gives general instructions regarding the celebration of Mass such as the colour of the vestments, ordering of liturgical days, etc. The *Ritus Servandus *gives a detailed description of the way a priest should celebrate Mass. De Defectibus gives guidance regarding what should happen if a defect arises at Mass, e.g. coming to the consecration of the wine and finding there is only water in the chalice. The *Rubricae Generalis *and the Ritus Servandus roughly correspond to the GIRM in the OF. If you serch for these online you should be able to find English translations.

If you follow this link:

sanctamissa.org/en/music/musical-guidelines-for-the-traditional-roman-rite/

There is guidance concerning music for the EF. Hope this helps.
 
hymnody - psalmody: the act of singing psalms or hymns
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Hymnody - A hymn is a type of song, usually religious, specifically written for the purpose of praise, adoration or prayer, and typically addressed to a deity or deities, or to a prominent figure or personification. The word hymn derives from Greek ὕμνος (hymnos), “a song of praise”. …

Hymnody - Wikipedia

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hymnody - The writing, composing, or singing of hymns or psalms; The hymns of a particular church or of a particular time
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hymnody
 
valoriuslobo said:
In an EF High Mass, I know there are the Gregorian chant propers. In an NO Mass these can be replaced with a suitable hymn. Is such an alteration possible with the EF Mass? Such as, if a priest wanted a processional hymn in lieu of the proper Introit. I could be mistaken, but when I attended an EF High Mass in another state during Christmas time, they sang Angels We Have Heard on High or something like that.
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In Hungary, beginning of at least the XVII Century vernacular hymns vere sung during the Sunday Masses, either on the Missa Cantata, and on the other Masses.

These hymns were not part of the Holy Mass, but even is a schola sung the proper chants and the Ordinary in Latin that was not part of the Mass neither. It was only in 1964 that the priest were allowed to skip parts if that was sung by the schola or cantor.
 
Thanks for answering my questions. Pardon my ignorance about the GIRM!

And no, I did not invent the word “hymnody.” Thanks to whomever posted the definitions to enlighten the other poster.

I thought the Introit and Processional were analogous, but I now know that’s not the case. 👍
 
Very good explanations Malphono. I imagine the “Mod” will now close this thread. After all the question was answered. 😉
 
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