Hymns are now illicit in the Roman Missal: Third Edition

[Phemie]

Really?

I thought chant was a *chant *and *cantique *was a song (canticle) and *hymne *was, specifically, a hymn.

For example, in GIRM no. 86:

*Le chant se prolonge pendant que les fidèles communient[74]. Mais il s’arrêtera au moment opportun s’il y a une hymne après la communion. *
Or, elsewhere:

*164. Après cela, le prêtre peut revenir au siège. On peut observer, pendant un certain temps, un silence sacré ou bien chanter un psaume, un cantique de louange ou une hymne (cf. n. 88).
*I don’t pretend to be at all fluent in French, but I do note the differences in the words “chant”, “cantique”, or “hymne” in the French version of the GIRM.

Perhaps somebody can explain the nuanced differences in the three nouns.

Chant, in French, is a generic word meaning song and doesn’t indicate a type of singing. The word chant is used both for human and bird song.
Cantique is a religious song in the vernacular.
Hymne for church is a strophic Latin song, but it also means anthem in secular speech.
In practice, I’ve rarely heard the word hymne used, rather we spoke of singing “un cantique en français” or “cantique en latin”
Chant, as understood in English, is “plain-chant” or “chant grégorien”.

 

[YoungTradCath]

Chant, as understood in English, is “plain-chant” or “chant grégorien”.

Yes, essentially.

 

[markomalley]

Chant, in French, is a generic word meaning song and doesn’t indicate a type of singing. The word chant is used both for human and bird song.
Cantique is a religious song in the vernacular.
Hymne for church is a strophic Latin song, but it also means anthem in secular speech.
In practice, I’ve rarely heard the word hymne used, rather we spoke of singing “un cantique en français” or “cantique en latin”
Chant, as understood in English, is “plain-chant” or “chant grégorien”.

Thanks.