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Revs96
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In the Liturgy of the Hours, does it matter if you use a hymn in the book (I have the 4-volume set) or can you use any hymn appropriate to the day or season even if it isn’t in the book?
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mattwcu
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Very few of the official hymns are in the edition published by the Catholic Book Publishing Company. The hymns for Lauds and Vespers change with the season or the feast. The hymns for the little hours nearly never change. They are:
Terce: (midmorning) Nunc Sancte Nobis
Sext: (midday) Rector potens verax deus
None: (mid afternoon) Rerum deus tenax vigor
Compline: Te lucis ante terminum
(Christe Lux is an optional compline hymn in the Liber Hymnarius I believe)
My suggestion is to find good english translations, (easy, just Google them) print them out, and stick them in your edition so you can pray with the Church better.
If you really want to use the proper hymns, I suggest buying the Liber Hymnarius published by Solesmes.
But to directly answer your question, the general instruction for the liturgy of the hours does not specify any particular hymn even though the actual rubrics do (which have been removed in the American edition). The modern LOTH allows you to basically do whatever you want in almost any situation, including removing the responsories, changing the Intercessions and in many cases even the prayer of the day at the end to any number of options in the back of the book.
Plus, if you are under no obligation to say the Office, you can do pretty much whatever you want. I don’t really see an issue with selecting another hymn you find appropriate. In fact, you might come up with a better one than in the book frankly!:harp:
Terce: (midmorning) Nunc Sancte Nobis
Sext: (midday) Rector potens verax deus
None: (mid afternoon) Rerum deus tenax vigor
Compline: Te lucis ante terminum
(Christe Lux is an optional compline hymn in the Liber Hymnarius I believe)
My suggestion is to find good english translations, (easy, just Google them) print them out, and stick them in your edition so you can pray with the Church better.
If you really want to use the proper hymns, I suggest buying the Liber Hymnarius published by Solesmes.
But to directly answer your question, the general instruction for the liturgy of the hours does not specify any particular hymn even though the actual rubrics do (which have been removed in the American edition). The modern LOTH allows you to basically do whatever you want in almost any situation, including removing the responsories, changing the Intercessions and in many cases even the prayer of the day at the end to any number of options in the back of the book.
Plus, if you are under no obligation to say the Office, you can do pretty much whatever you want. I don’t really see an issue with selecting another hymn you find appropriate. In fact, you might come up with a better one than in the book frankly!:harp:
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Revs96
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Thanks!
Tonight at Vespers, I wanted to use “Fisher of Men” (Lord, you have come to the Seashore-I know the song in the original Spanish [the song’s from Spain], Portuguese, and English) for St. Peter, but the book had something I never heard of and couldn’t find the melody it pointed out and it makes little sense (as the book says) to recite a song.
P.S. Now that I think of it, it makes no sense to be strict about which hymn is used when the concluding prayer in OT can be one at random from a list of dozens, since some texts (prayers included) can be substituted with others from the same season.
Tonight at Vespers, I wanted to use “Fisher of Men” (Lord, you have come to the Seashore-I know the song in the original Spanish [the song’s from Spain], Portuguese, and English) for St. Peter, but the book had something I never heard of and couldn’t find the melody it pointed out and it makes little sense (as the book says) to recite a song.
P.S. Now that I think of it, it makes no sense to be strict about which hymn is used when the concluding prayer in OT can be one at random from a list of dozens, since some texts (prayers included) can be substituted with others from the same season.
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drforjc
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Correct: “Alter Hymnus ad libitum”(Christe Lux is an optional compline hymn in the Liber Hymnarius I believe)
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benedictgal
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You might want to get hold of an older version of the Worship III hymnal. It has a lot of beautiful hymns that are unadulterated, meaning that the translations were not butchered.Thanks!
Tonight at Vespers, I wanted to use “Fisher of Men” (Lord, you have come to the Seashore-I know the song in the original Spanish [the song’s from Spain], Portuguese, and English) for St. Peter, but the book had something I never heard of and couldn’t find the melody it pointed out and it makes little sense (as the book says) to recite a song.
P.S. Now that I think of it, it makes no sense to be strict about which hymn is used when the concluding prayer in OT can be one at random from a list of dozens, since some texts (prayers included) can be substituted with others from the same season.
For today, I would have used, “By All Your Saints Still Striving”, as it has a verse specific for today’s Solemnty. The melody comes from “All Glory, Laud and Honor”. I would also use “How Firm a Foundation” and “God, We Praise You”, a paraphrase of the Te Deum.
Never cared too much for Pescador de Hombres. It is overused down here to the point that it’s pretty bad. One parish uses it every day.
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Revs96
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Here in the Portuguese speaking world (I’m in MA), it’s not used as much as that (at least at my parish) so not that many people are sick of it.Never cared too much for Pescador de Hombres. It is overused down here to the point that it’s pretty bad. One parish uses it every day.
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