HYPER liberal school....help!

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So I am getting ready to go back to school next week, and I have a couple concerns.

The school I am about to go to is very liberal, and the program is even more liberal. It’s the only one in my area (unless I want a 2+ hour drive ONE WAY) and it’s one of the better programs in my state.

I am worried about the stress and pressure this will cause. They are very pro-gay (not just gay rights, PRO GAY), pro-choice and at times, anti-religion (as is proved by my acceptance story. I have reason to believe they initially rejected me because of my faith).

If anyone has any tips on dealing with this kind of environment for TWO YEARS while keeping their head, I’d appreciate it.

If no advice, prayers are more than welcome!

I want to come out the other end of this a certified teacher able to represent Christ in our public schools!!! (my mission field) 🙂
 
Whitacre_Girl said:
So I am getting ready to go back to school next week, and I have a couple concerns.

The school I am about to go to is very liberal, and the program is even more liberal. It’s the only one in my area (unless I want a 2+ hour drive ONE WAY) and it’s one of the better programs in my state.

I am worried about the stress and pressure this will cause. They are very pro-gay (not just gay rights, PRO GAY), pro-choice and at times, anti-religion (as is proved by my acceptance story. I have reason to believe they initially rejected me because of my faith).

If anyone has any tips on dealing with this kind of environment for TWO YEARS while keeping their head, I’d appreciate it.

If no advice, prayers are more than welcome!

I want to come out the other end of this a certified teacher able to represent Christ in our public schools!!! (my mission field) 🙂
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My dear friend

I’ll pray for you. Prayer and plenty of it is needed. Study your faith so you can handle the objections to it and reply if needed. But Jesus said pray lest ye fall into temptation. The apostles did not watch even one hour with Jesus and we saw how they all betrayed Him as a result. Pray a lot if you want to overcome the temptations of this environment. That’s what Jesus says. Hope it helps.

God bless you and pray for me too please:thumbsup:🙂

John
 
This can be a real challenge. There is a lot of pressure in most colleges (from both students and professors) to view all religion as superstition or somehow not worthy of a truly intelligent person.

Do you know if your school has any kind of Catholic student group? If not, you might try starting one. You can’t be the only observant Catholic attending there. (Well, maybe you are, but I sure hope not!) If you’re able to meet for lunch once a week with like-minded students, it will help you maintain your faith and your self-esteem.

God bless!

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What school is it? What are you majoring in? Why are you going back to school?

If you are strong, well grounded in the Fullness of Truth that can only be found in the Catholic Faith & do not succumb to pressure, then you can be a positive Witness to our Lord & Savior, Jesus the Christ in the midst of these misguided non-believers, as everyone really wants to know the Truth!

If not then look to strengthen your Catholic Faith before entering the Devil’s den!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
 
I can relate. While preparing for a mid-life second career in ministry in the Church, I needed an undergraduate theology degree. My only option (due to money, distance, etc …) was a local historically Catholic institution. I was well aware of the school of theology’s repution for heterodoxy going in and, unfortunately, I was not disappointed. I perservered and even graduated summa cum laude.

Here’s how I did it. I entered each class with this question, “What does this professor want me to know by the end of this class? What do I have to do to show him or her that I got it?” I didn’t have to like or agree with it. I just had to understand it and demonstrate that I understood it to the teacher’s satisfaction. I never argued in class. I did, however, attend every class and participate in all small group exercises, class discussions and homework to demonstrate that I had indead read the material, listened to the lectures, and done the homework. In addition, I took advantage of the school writing lab, study groups, and any time the professors would give me outside of class.

I never had to lie about my beliefs or espouse theirs. I just had to show that I understood what they meant. They weren’t particularly interested in what I thought anyway. I was just the fat old broad in the front row on the left … little did they know.

Finally, I had my secret weapon. Despite all the insults to His holy name, Jesus still dwelt in the chapel tabernacle. At every class break, I hurried there for fifteen minutes of sweet communion. Of the many gifts I got there, Jesus gave me love and pity for my teachers and an appreciation for the many things of real value they were able to give me.

That’s my story. Here’s my advice. Don’t argue with your professors, especially the occasional one who is a pompous jerk. If they press you, tell them that your personal beliefs are private; you are there to master the course material. Be an exemplary student. Finally. PRAY PRAY PRAY.

One final note … Sometimes, in spite of doing everything right, you face blatant discrimination because of your religion. I knew of a case where a student’s master’s thesis was rejected at a state university for being “too Catholic.” A threat from a Catholic legal institute was all it took for them to grant her the degree and honors she deserved. Hope it never comes to that for you.
 
In this kind of situation, you really have to ask yourself some frank questions. My husband is having the same dilemma right now, so we just discussed this.

Ask yourself:


  1. *]Do I want to spend two years at an institution that openly rallies against my personal Faith and values?

    *]Do I want to give thousands of dollars of my hard earned money to an institution which fosters that which my Faith considers “Grave Evils”?

    *]Down the road, will I feel guilty about willingly supporting this institution?

    *]May it be worth the sacrifice(s) to attend a school that doesn’t openly support what I consider to be sinful?

    *]Is this school REALLY going to appropriately prepare me to be a strong Christian leader?

    That kind Liberalism is sneaky. They know just what to say to suck you into their agenda. That’s not to say that you can’t remain a Faithful Catholic, but they’ll sure make it hard for you.

    If you’re really struggling with the issue, ask your Priest. They’re the best resource anywhere.

    Our prayers are with you in your decision!
    Erin-Anne
 
Are you going to be @ Wazzu? I think you will find many many many likeminded individuals. (Am guessing based on your description of it being in the middle of nowhere). Its biggest downside is the rampant alcohol abuse. Not a lot to do in Pullman.
 
It’s not wazzu. I do live in the middle of nowhere, though. LOL. I,m sorry but I’m reluctant to give out too much info hehe. I looked into the community and there is a catholic group. I’ll have to get in with them. I do consider my faith to be strong, I just worry about them getting to me too bad. I can tell you that I’m going to a elementary education certification. I her this school has one of the better programs. I’m not thrilled to be supporting their beliefs, but it seems that god is calling me there to get the credentials I need for my vocation I don’t know why. LOL. Maybe he is calling me to be another light on campus? Who knows. Thanks everyone for the (name removed by moderator)ut. It’s god to have different ideas to ponder.
 
This is the story of my life, I’m only in high school though…During Biology, while studying evolution, the way my teacher addressed other theories was:

“Some people, don’t accept the scientific process of evolution, they believe that some random being created everything, and while there is no evidence to support it, they believe it, and that’s called creationism”

And then someone in the class goes “Really!! Why??” (and this is a 17-yr-old, you would have thought people had heard of creationism before high school biology…)

My school is very pro-choice, very pro-gay, and very pro-Obama and all that implies.

What really helps me is having friends that believe the same thing I do. You will also find people there who may not be religious, but they aren’t hyper-liberal so you can at least have something in common.

The most important thing is just going to church, a lot. Every service you can make it to. It really helps. By Wednessday, on normal weeks, I already feel like I’m slipping, you know, shortening prayers, being meaner to by little bro, etc…just from being surrounded by so much secularism. Going to church really helps me recharge. If it’s God’s will, then you will make it through. What also helps is putting some church music on your iPod, then when you get really agitated or nervous, you can listen to it 🙂
 
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This is the story of my life, I’m only in high school though…During Biology, while studying evolution, the way my teacher addressed other theories was:

“Some people, don’t accept the scientific process of evolution, they believe that some random being created everything, and while there is no evidence to support it, they believe it, and that’s called creationism”

And then someone in the class goes “Really!! Why??” (and this is a 17-yr-old, you would have thought people had heard of creationism before high school biology…)

My school is very pro-choice, very pro-gay, and very pro-Obama and all that implies.

What really helps me is having friends that believe the same thing I do. You will also find people there who may not be religious, but they aren’t hyper-liberal so you can at least have something in common.

The most important thing is just going to church, a lot. Every service you can make it to. It really helps. By Wednessday, on normal weeks, I already feel like I’m slipping, you know, shortening prayers, being meaner to by little bro, etc…just from being surrounded by so much secularism. Going to church really helps me recharge. If it’s God’s will, then you will make it through. What also helps is putting some church music on your iPod, then when you get really agitated or nervous, you can listen to it 🙂
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Thank you for your suggestions. All the things you mention are exactly why I want to teach in public schools. There needs to be Christian educators out there to get reason and tolerance back into the schools. You all are so helpful!
 
PeaceSerenity said:
This is the story of my life, I’m only in high school though…During Biology, while studying evolution, the way my teacher addressed other theories was:

“Some people, don’t accept the scientific process of evolution, they believe that some random being created everything, and while there is no evidence to support it, they believe it, and that’s called creationism”

And then someone in the class goes “Really!! Why??” (and this is a 17-yr-old, you would have thought people had heard of creationism before high school biology…)

My school is very pro-choice, very pro-gay, and very pro-Obama and all that implies.

What really helps me is having friends that believe the same thing I do. You will also find people there who may not be religious, but they aren’t hyper-liberal so you can at least have something in common.

The most important thing is just going to church, a lot. Every service you can make it to. It really helps. By Wednessday, on normal weeks, I already feel like I’m slipping, you know, shortening prayers, being meaner to by little bro, etc…just from being surrounded by so much secularism. Going to church really helps me recharge. If it’s God’s will, then you will make it through. What also helps is putting some church music on your iPod, then when you get really agitated or nervous, you can listen to it 🙂
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I agree with all you said—except please do not adopt the language of the opposition. There is nothing ‘pro-CHOICE’ about abortion-on-demand.

If we lose the war of words, we lose, period.

Praying for you all! :signofcross:
 
I agree with all you said—except please do not adopt the language of the opposition. There is nothing ‘pro-CHOICE’ about abortion-on-demand.
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Touché…duly noted 🙂

hmmm, how about this : Pro-Choice = the baby gets to chose if he/she wants to be aborted 😃 … oh, the world we live in…
 
Whitacre_Girl said:
It’s not wazzu. I do live in the middle of nowhere, though. LOL. I,m sorry but I’m reluctant to give out too much info hehe. I looked into the community and there is a catholic group. I’ll have to get in with them. I do consider my faith to be strong, I just worry about them getting to me too bad. I can tell you that I’m going to a elementary education certification. I her this school has one of the better programs. I’m not thrilled to be supporting their beliefs, but it seems that god is calling me there to get the credentials I need for my vocation I don’t know why. LOL. Maybe he is calling me to be another light on campus? Who knows. Thanks everyone for the (name removed by moderator)ut. It’s god to have different ideas to ponder.
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**If you cannot be honest on an anonymous forum with Catholics who want to help you, i cannot but worry for your soul!

You are in my prayers, but do not be naive, these secular atheist, liberal, non-Catholics are not worried about your Eternal Salvation, they are “wolves among the sheep!”**

**Jesus warned us; “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” (Mt 715)
**
Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
 
Mark77 said:
**If you cannot be honest on an anonymous forum with Catholics who want to help you, i cannot but worry for your soul!
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uh…I was thinking more along the lines of having a school official do a google search, put my information together, determine who I am, and face issues from that. Nothing on the internet is private, and I know plenty of people getting in trouble for internet posts. You can’t be too careful in this day and age. I suppose if someone really wants to know they can PM me…but thanks for the judgement call…😦

Oh, and for the record, I am being perfectly honest. Being honest doesn’t mean I have to reveal all my intimate details on the world wide web, it means that I don’t mislead others. I have misled no one.
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Mark77 said:
**If you cannot be honest on an anonymous forum with Catholics who want to help you, i cannot but worry for your soul!

You are in my prayers, but do not be naive, these secular atheist, liberal, non-Catholics are not worried about your Eternal Salvation, they are “wolves among the sheep!”**

Jesus warned us; “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” (Mt 715)

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
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It is frankly none of our business where she will be going to school, and it is perfectly sensible not to share too much personal information. Whether she chooses to share personal information has nothing at all to do with her soul, but a lot to do with nosiness.
 
Mark77 said:
**If you cannot be honest on an anonymous forum with Catholics who want to help you, i cannot but worry for your soul!

You are in my prayers, but do not be naive, these secular atheist, liberal, non-Catholics are not worried about your Eternal Salvation, they are “wolves among the sheep!”**

Jesus warned us; “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” (Mt 715)

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
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I beg your pardon?

What does ‘being honest’ have to do with not wanting to give out too much personal informaton?

The latter is only prudent.
 
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