Hypercritical mother hurt me yet again

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RedBetta, I can relate in every way to your post.

At 18, the summer after my freshman year of college, I was suicidal after 6 weeks back at home, from the criticism, negativity, swearing, yelling, and finding fault with everything I did. Like you, I was the kind of daughter parents ought to have been grateful for–I stayed out of trouble, had good friends, got good grades, had talents I used, was going to college and paying for it on my own, never touched drugs, cigarettes, or alcohol.

The breaking straw for me was when my car got caught in flood waters–like dozens, even hundreds of others that particular, very rainy summer–and my dad chewed me out at length for stupidity, and how I should have done this and that to avoid it.

Had I thought too hard at the time, I would have concluded I couldn’t afford to be on my own. However, enough was enough. My mental health became my first priority. I drove back to college, and started paperwork to be declared legally financially independent of my parents so I could get aid on my own income, rather than theirs. I paid every cent I had to cover my next semester of college, and worked 16 hours a day between two jobs for the rest of the summer.

I was declared financially independent, based on affidavits from relatives, and was able to get the aid I needed to finish college on my own. I have never regretted it, although it was a very, very difficult year.

I would strongly suggest you look into any possible way to get out of this situation. I say this having been there and knowing what it was doing to me.

If you read the post I posted today, you’ll see that as I near 50, my parents are not changed. So, while some people may feel that ‘oh, my mom is so mean’ is normal 19-year-old, I disagree. The older my kids got, the more I realized how I would never say and do to them the things that had been said and done to me–and it was really when I began to understand just how *off *my family situation had been.

I can look back and say the only real regrets I’ve had are that I kept giving them second chances. I forgave, re-established a relationship with them over and over–and found my father throwing me on a bed, trying to choke me when I was 23, with my young children down the hall. I moved across the country for many years and thought they’d done some introspection and changing. I moved back, and things started right up again, including threats from my then-71-year-old father to come to my work and cause trouble, and my mother smearing my character to people at my church.
My father, too, tried to tell me what to major in. I made my own choice and have never regretted that, either.

I don’t know your family background, but the only places I’ve been able to make any sense of my parents’ (and now siblings’) behavior is in looking at adult children of alcoholics and narcissistic parents. I read these forums, blogs, and stories, and it’s like they have watched my entire life and wrote about it. You might want to do some reading in those areas and see if anything resonates. I’m still looking for a forum for adult children of narcissists.*
 
RedBetta, I can relate in every way to your post.

At 18, the summer after my freshman year of college, I was suicidal after 6 weeks back at home, from the criticism, negativity, swearing, yelling, and finding fault with everything I did. Like you, I was the kind of daughter parents ought to have been grateful for–I stayed out of trouble, had good friends, got good grades, had talents I used, was going to college and paying for it on my own, never touched drugs, cigarettes, or alcohol.

The breaking straw for me was when my car got caught in flood waters–like dozens, even hundreds of others that particular, very rainy summer–and my dad chewed me out at length for stupidity, and how I should have done this and that to avoid it.

Had I thought too hard at the time, I would have concluded I couldn’t afford to be on my own. However, enough was enough. My mental health became my first priority. I drove back to college, and started paperwork to be declared legally financially independent of my parents so I could get aid on my own income, rather than theirs. I paid every cent I had to cover my next semester of college, and worked 16 hours a day between two jobs for the rest of the summer.

I was declared financially independent, based on affidavits from relatives, and was able to get the aid I needed to finish college on my own. I have never regretted it, although it was a very, very difficult year.

I would strongly suggest you look into any possible way to get out of this situation. I say this having been there and knowing what it was doing to me.

If you read the post I posted today, you’ll see that as I near 50, my parents are not changed. So, while some people may feel that ‘oh, my mom is so mean’ is normal 19-year-old, I disagree. The older my kids got, the more I realized how I would never say and do to them the things that had been said and done to me–and it was really when I began to understand just how *off *my family situation had been.

I can look back and say the only real regrets I’ve had are that I kept giving them second chances. I forgave, re-established a relationship with them over and over–and found my father throwing me on a bed, trying to choke me when I was 23, with my young children down the hall. I moved across the country for many years and thought they’d done some introspection and changing. I moved back, and things started right up again, including threats from my then-71-year-old father to come to my work and cause trouble, and my mother smearing my character to people at my church.
My father, too, tried to tell me what to major in. I made my own choice and have never regretted that, either.

I don’t know your family background, but the only places I’ve been able to make any sense of my parents’ (and now siblings’) behavior is in looking at adult children of alcoholics and narcissistic parents. I read these forums, blogs, and stories, and it’s like they have watched my entire life and wrote about it. You might want to do some reading in those areas and see if anything resonates. I’m still looking for a forum for adult children of narcissists.*

Your parents sound like narcissistic sociopaths. :eek:
l have had the good fortune of never had to deal with these types of people and I pray that I never have to.
 
Your parents sound like narcissistic sociopaths. :eek:
l have had the good fortune of never had to deal with these types of people and I pray that I never have to.
Narcissists at least. But this is exactly why I don’t discount a 19 year old having issues with her parents. Too many people are too quick to brush it off as just their age. In fact my own mother kept telling me I was imagining problems in our family, that the only problem was my age.

Sometimes, it really IS messed up parents.
 
Narcissists at least. But this is exactly why I don’t discount a 19 year old having issues with her parents. Too many people are too quick to brush it off as just their age. In fact my own mother kept telling me I was imagining problems in our family, that the only problem was my age.

Sometimes, it really IS messed up parents.
I do not think my mother is nearly as bad as you have described your parents. She has hit me three times in the past as punishment, but, I would not describe her as violent. But, I appreciate you not writing me off merely because of my age. I have gotten that too many times in the past.

For everyone who is curious, I do not think my dad has spoken with my mom about this.
 
I do not think my mother is nearly as bad as you have described your parents. She has hit me three times in the past as punishment, but, I would not describe her as violent. But, I appreciate you not writing me off merely because of my age. I have gotten that too many times in the past.
What you’re describing sounds very much like what I grew up with. The physical violence, and the outright threats, ironically, occurred when I was an adult. We were not physically abused children by any means. But we were certainly torn down with berating, swearing, criticisms, and general negativity, and as an adult, I’ve often thought that does at least as much damage, if not more.

I think we almost invariably begin to really see the damage it’s done only as we get further into adulthood.
 
As far as studying Spanish, I’ve found it extremely helpful in my nursing career.
I see you’re in Illinois. One thing I’ve noticed is that many if not most Hispanics in Illinois (in Chicago, anyway) speak English well, but it’s not the same in other states. In California for example, a lot of people only speak Spanish. And if you’re heading for any career in medicine, you will have a lot of Spanish speaking patients.

Interpreters do their best but can’t always be relied on. It’s in my husband’s medical record that he was injured falling out of an airplane (!) when he fell from a bridge. Interpreters make small but crucial mistakes occasionally, and you will do much better if you speak Spanish yourself.

It’s not that hard to learn if you’ve any talent for languages, and anyone going into the medical field would be foolish to skip learning Spanish.
God bless.

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As far as studying Spanish, I’ve found it extremely helpful in my nursing career.
I see you’re in Illinois. One thing I’ve noticed is that many if not most Hispanics in Illinois (in Chicago, anyway) speak English well, but it’s not the same in other states. In California for example, a lot of people only speak Spanish. And if you’re heading for any career in medicine, you will have a lot of Spanish speaking patients.

Interpreters do their best but can’t always be relied on. It’s in my husband’s medical record that he was injured falling out of an airplane (!) when he fell from a bridge. Interpreters make small but crucial mistakes occasionally, and you will do much better if you speak Spanish yourself.

It’s not that hard to learn if you’ve any talent for languages, and anyone going into the medical field would be foolish to skip learning Spanish.
God bless.

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Thank you. I guess my mom is disappointed that I never went to Polish school to learn Polish (both my parents are immigrants). She might be thinking that I like Spanish more than my ethnic language. It is not that at all. In high school, the Spanish program was the only language program that was not awful and they did not offer Polish. Now, this is one of the points where I look back and realize that my parents made some mistakes in rearing me. They never made me do anything if it was not life-threatening and so I did not do any extra-curriculars until I was in high school. But, come one guys, if you ask a kid if they want to go so school on Saturday, what do you think they will say? Yes, I love the idea of school six days a week? They kept saying that I would regret it. But, if there is anything that high school psychology has taught me is that kids generate cannot look far into the feature. They only concern themselves with immediate consequences. Why they let me have any say in the matter is beyond me. One more thing on my bucket list in life is to learn Polish.

Anyway, I went on a tangent there, thank you for the encouragement.
 
My mom brought up the episode of the hospice again just now. She asked me what I decided. I told her that I do not want the hospice to waste money running a background check on me if I was not sure I was going to volunteer. She told me to do not worry about any inconveniences to them, I can always drop it if I find something else. I told her all I want it to be a decent person. She said that I can be a decent person in heaven, but not on Earth. She told me that, if I am going to have a tender heart, I better have a hard butt because people will always be kicking it.

I have heard versions of this speech all of my life from her. Dad raised me to be honest, but, Mom always said that you cannot be completely honest in life. I know she struggled in her life to get to a place where she can live comfortably. I am far from naive, but, I want to treat people with the same way I want to be treated. But, apparently you cannot do that in her world.
 
Hola i dzien dobry, redbetta. It’s never too late to take up Polish, especially if you live in the Chicago area (espcially if you are at a community college or UIC). You can also practice at home with your parents; maybe that will lessen the stress at home. There are a lot of Polish speaking patients as well as Spanish; in fact, most of my doctor’s patients speak Polish. So if you can master both Spanish and Polish you will be at an advantage if you stay in the Chicago area.
As far as studying Spanish, I’ve found it extremely helpful in my nursing career.
I see you’re in Illinois. One thing I’ve noticed is that many if not most Hispanics in Illinois (in Chicago, anyway) speak English well, but it’s not the same in other states. In California for example, a lot of people only speak Spanish. And if you’re heading for any career in medicine, you will have a lot of Spanish speaking patients.

Interpreters do their best but can’t always be relied on. It’s in my husband’s medical record that he was injured falling out of an airplane (!) when he fell from a bridge. Interpreters make small but crucial mistakes occasionally, and you will do much better if you speak Spanish yourself.

It’s not that hard to learn if you’ve any talent for languages, and anyone going into the medical field would be foolish to skip learning Spanish.
God bless.

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Actually, if the immigrants are recent, it may take a while to learn English.
 
My mom brought up the episode of the hospice again just now. She asked me what I decided. I told her that I do not want the hospice to waste money running a background check on me if I was not sure I was going to volunteer. She told me to do not worry about any inconveniences to them, I can always drop it if I find something else. I told her all I want it to be a decent person. She said that I can be a decent person in heaven, but not on Earth. She told me that, if I am going to have a tender heart, I better have a hard butt because people will always be kicking it.

I have heard versions of this speech all of my life from her. Dad raised me to be honest, but, Mom always said that you cannot be completely honest in life. I know she struggled in her life to get to a place where she can live comfortably. I am far from naive, but, I want to treat people with the same way I want to be treated. But, apparently you cannot do that in her world.
Being honest and good does not exclude “watching your back”. That is especially true for women to remember (in terms of self-protection). Jesus said something once about being as sly as foxes but innocent as sheep, so one does not necessarily negate the other.
 
Being honest and good does not exclude “watching your back”. That is especially true for women to remember (in terms of self-protection). Jesus said something once about being as sly as foxes but innocent as sheep, so one does not necessarily negate the other.
I know I should not be naive. People have called me so anti-naive that I barely trust people. What I object to is getting what I want via dishonest means.
 
Hola i dzien dobry, redbetta. It’s never too late to take up Polish, especially if you live in the Chicago area (espcially if you are at a community college or UIC). You can also practice at home with your parents; maybe that will lessen the stress at home. There are a lot of Polish speaking patients as well as Spanish; in fact, most of my doctor’s patients speak Polish. So if you can master both Spanish and Polish you will be at an advantage if you stay in the Chicago area.

Actually, if the immigrants are recent, it may take a while to learn English.
If I will take up Polish, it is going to have to wait. I am in college and I only have time to study and sleep. The way my school does things is similar to labor abuse.
 
My mom brought up the episode of the hospice again just now. She asked me what I decided. I told her that I do not want the hospice to waste money running a background check on me if I was not sure I was going to volunteer. She told me to do not worry about any inconveniences to them, I can always drop it if I find something else. I told her all I want it to be a decent person. She said that I can be a decent person in heaven, but not on Earth. She told me that, if I am going to have a tender heart, I better have a hard butt because people will always be kicking it.

I have heard versions of this speech all of my life from her. Dad raised me to be honest, but, Mom always said that you cannot be completely honest in life. I know she struggled in her life to get to a place where she can live comfortably. I am far from naive, but, I want to treat people with the same way I want to be treated. But, apparently you cannot do that in her world.
She sounds a lot like my mother was. When my husband and I got married a week earlier then the original date in our parish church ( because of a Vietnam deferment ) she wouldn’t attend the wedding, but my dad did. She wouldn’t talk to me for a long time, thought people would think I “had” to get married when our priest said we were renewing our vows! And as we took a short honeymoon after our first marriage, and she was upset about it, the oriest had to gently tell her that we were married in the eyes of the Church and weren’t being immoral. I know you love your mom, but if you could get out on your own, think it would be far less stressful for you. By the way, this was 50 years ago, and I did live at home.
 
My mom brought up the episode of the hospice again just now. She asked me what I decided. I told her that I do not want the hospice to waste money running a background check on me if I was not sure I was going to volunteer. She told me to do not worry about any inconveniences to them, I can always drop it if I find something else. I told her all I want it to be a decent person. She said that I can be a decent person in heaven, but not on Earth. She told me that, if I am going to have a tender heart, I better have a hard butt because people will always be kicking it.

I have heard versions of this speech all of my life from her. Dad raised me to be honest, but, Mom always said that you cannot be completely honest in life. I know she struggled in her life to get to a place where she can live comfortably. I am far from naive, but, I want to treat people with the same way I want to be treated. But, apparently you cannot do that in her world.
I am sorry your mother feels this way-she has a jaded attitude. Many people will tell you there is a difference between being smart verses being hardhearted, distrustful or dishonest.

She sounds like she is taking her personal shortcomings out on you, and you will never have your own voice around this enviornment. In fact she will continue to tear you down-she needs counseling. You can’t win a debate with her-regardless, so tell her as little as possible about important things.

I agree that you should start making a goal for yourself to move out. Jesus does not tell us to put up with abusive behavior-we are instructed to shake the dust from our feet and move on from people like this, regardless if it is a parent or not.
 
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