Hypnosis/Hypnotherapy

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Are hypnosis shows at carnivals immoral? What about hypno-therapy sessions in private counseling? I heard somewhere that they take the mind “off-guard” and that the devil can get inside your mind, but how immoral are these shows? It all seems like good fun onstage, and it is a terrific way to relax on your own. I don’t mean some kind of satanic mind control or anything, but as a way to get the body and mind relaxed it seems pretty safe. Can anyone shed light on this for me?
 
Doesn’t seem to be anything immoral during hypno-sessions on carnivals, unless obviously hypnotherapist doesn’t force you to do anything immoral, usually they don’t.

“I heard somewhere that they take the mind “off-guard” and that the devil can get inside your mind”
  • Hypnosis is a state of mind in which a subject becomes more aware and focused actually, your mind doesn’t go “off-guard”, but the person also becomes very open to suggestion, so immorality of hypnosis will depend on suggestion.
“It all seems like good fun onstage, and it is a terrific way to relax on your own. I don’t mean some kind of satanic mind control or anything, but as a way to get the body and mind relaxed it seems pretty safe. Can anyone shed light on this for me?”

Satanic mind control? I wonder what you mean by that…
Some people turn hypnosis in to an interactive activity for the audience in order to gain some money or popularity, but usually hypnosis is used to help people in different ways…

If you are deeply concerned about immorality and satanic mind control, you can always consider self-hypnosis, when YOU are in full controll of the suggestion you give to yourself and situation around you. It can not only help you relax body and mind, but could also help you in achieving some goals, everything depends on your believes, power of suggestion and your suggestiobility.

I’d say that Hypnosis and Religion work in the same ways…
 
m4l3f1c3n7 said:
Doesn’t seem to be anything immoral during hypno-sessions on carnivals, unless obviously hypnotherapist doesn’t force you to do anything immoral, usually they don’t.

“I heard somewhere that they take the mind “off-guard” and that the devil can get inside your mind”
  • Hypnosis is a state of mind in which a subject becomes more aware and focused actually, your mind doesn’t go “off-guard”, but the person also becomes very open to suggestion, so immorality of hypnosis will depend on suggestion.
“It all seems like good fun onstage, and it is a terrific way to relax on your own. I don’t mean some kind of satanic mind control or anything, but as a way to get the body and mind relaxed it seems pretty safe. Can anyone shed light on this for me?”

Satanic mind control? I wonder what you mean by that…
Some people turn hypnosis in to an interactive activity for the audience in order to gain some money or popularity, but usually hypnosis is used to help people in different ways…

If you are deeply concerned about immorality and satanic mind control, you can always consider self-hypnosis, when YOU are in full controll of the suggestion you give to yourself and situation around you. It can not only help you relax body and mind, but could also help you in achieving some goals, everything depends on your believes, power of suggestion and your suggestiobility.

I’d say that Hypnosis and Religion work in the same ways…
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That’s more or less what I thought. Thanks. 🙂
 
KephasAugustine said:
Are hypnosis shows at carnivals immoral? What about hypno-therapy sessions in private counseling?
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Stage hypnosis is a just a trick. As long as no serious claims are made for it there’s no moral problem. Sometimes the shows are a bit vulgar, but that’s a separate issue.

Therapeutic hypnosis is a bit more problematic. Essentially rational therapies are morally licit, irrational ones are not. Sometimes it hard to know which is which. Magical thinking can be dressed up as psychology, whilst ideas which are nonsense from a scientific / medical perspective can be nevertheless based on reason, and thus useless but not immoral.

It is not clear that there is any psychologically identifiable state that can be called “being under hypnosis”, but there’s certainly a socially defined state. It does seem to be useful, again it is debated how useful, but a Catholic is not bound to take either position. The problem is that ideas about “getting in touch with one’s inner self” can easily spill over into a belief in hidden mental powers, or in self-actualisation morality. Then it becomes dangerous.
 
If you do a search here on CAF for “hypnosis”, there are a number of posts by certified hypnotists and hypnotherapists that explain a lot of what goes on.

But basically the Church has approved hypnosis as a serious therapeutic technique, but NOT for amusement or entertainment.

Anyway, check out the other posts on other threads by doing a search and then come on back if there are still questions.
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the study of hypnosis is closely tied into brain science. Since hypnosis changes the way the brain processes information
Hypnosis Therapy - Can you find relief from problems by entering a trance? Can another person guide your mind to improve your thought patterns?

Here is the Path…
patrickwanis.com/Hypnotherapy.asp
 
holdencaulfield said:
How does hypnosis work?
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I would be pleased to answer your question, but it’s a complicated topic.

Could you be a little more specific.

What I can do is to refer you to some folks such as Michael Yapko, who writes encyclopedia articles and who has written many books on the subject. There is also Robert Dilts, who has an exhaustive Web site on the topic; he focuses a lot of attention on an aspect of hypnosis called NLP.

There is also Ron Klein who has the American Hypnosis Training Academy, and who has developed a concept called Eye Movement Integration for treatment of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

There are numerous individuals and organizations who have developed outstanding materials …starting from Milton H. Erickson in the “permissive” school and others more recent. And going back to Mesmer and earlier.

The National Guild of Hypnotists has also published a great deal of material.

Basically there are two parts to hypnosis: 1) inducing a trance state … sort of theta waves (there are more or less four kinds of brain waves).

And 2) formulating an appropriate suggestion.

It’s both simple and complicated.

So, if you have some specific application or can narrow the question down a bit, I would be pleased to provide an answer.
 
Well, technically if it is only a technical thing than I would say there is no sin for participating, however if this is wrong and there is some type of “spiritual” side to hypnosis than I would say to avoid it as, it is most likely demonic.
 
Al_Masetti said:
There is also Robert Dilts, who has an exhaustive Web site on the topic; he focuses a lot of attention on an aspect of hypnosis called NLP.
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NLP is fantastic, but is it an offhsoot of hypnosis. Weren’t Bandler and Grinder working on language patterns before they started studying Erikson’s work?
 
Penitus said:
NLP is fantastic, but is it an offhsoot of hypnosis. Weren’t Bandler and Grinder working on language patterns before they started studying Erikson’s work?
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Yup.

And some of these folks are a piece of work in themselves. Cannot mention names because one or two of them are “highly litigious”, shall we say.

But yes.

NLP really, in my opinion, deals with formulation of the suggestion. For “optimum results”, you really need to frame and reframe and word carefully. I have seen video tapes of Robert Dilts doing his work (and also Michael Yapko) and what they do is sooo simple that it is astonishing. I even did some of it. It’s fabulous stuff.

Well worth studying and reading up on.

Bandler and Grinder were, if memory serves, working on trying to develop computer languages. Their question was: "How do you invent a new language, with all new character sets and all new vocabulary? How do you translate VERBAL (oral) communications into WRITTEN communications? After all, oral communications has so much nuance and culture to it. How do you convert that to a computer language???

Someone mentioned Milton H. Erickson (NOT Erik Erickson) … so they travelled to Phoenix to talk with him and to observe him.

Milton H. Erickson is a very unusual man. He had polio as a child and was crippled; lived in an iron lung. But he still managed to earn an actual M.D. degree. Then he got post polio syndrome … he really suffered. But he married, had a bunch of kids. And developed a fabulous practice. He lived into his 80’s and worked right up to the day he died.

Interested folks can read “Uncommon Therapy” by Jay Haley.

I’ll post a thread.
 
Nlp is very good effective discipline to improve ourself and communication with other people.
But here the definition from wikipedia

“Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is an approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy created by Richard Bandler and John Grinder in California, United States in the 1970s. NLP has since been overwhelmingly discredited scientifically,[1][2] but continues to be marketed by some hypnotherapists and by some companies that organize seminars and workshops on management training for businesses.[3]
NLP’s creators claim there is a connection between neurological processes (neuro-), language (linguistic) and behavioral patterns learned through experience (programming), and that these can be changed to achieve specific goals in life.[4][5] Bandler and Grinder also claim that NLP methodology can “model” the skills of exceptional people, allowing anyone to acquire those skills.[6][7] They claim as well that, often in a single session, NLP can treat problems such as phobias, depression, tic disorders, psychosomatic illnesses, near-sightedness,[8] allergy, common cold,[9] and learning disorders.[10][1] “ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
I believe as many other things in life that are not scientificly prof doesn’t mean that they don’t have their use. It’ like say that if we don’t believe God because there not scientific evidence. What I mean is NLP is a great discipline that cannot solve all the problems all the time. But can help achieve better outcomes for the people that use it.

With proper use of theses techniques you can get more control of your mind and achieve desired outcomes.

Bandler and Grinder create these discipline, but they based their research on other authority in the filed already established before them. The name was Milton H. Erickson famous hypneterrapist and partitioner that worked in hospital with people mentally sick, he used a type of hypnosis call conversational to improve the conditions of the people.

Here some of the techniques:
Modelling
Mirroring
Leading and pacing
Anchoring
Mental Rehearsal
Rapport

I believe that anything is possible for the people apply himself with use of proper guidence and also use Nlp and hypnosis.🙂
nlptechniquesguide.com/
 
m4l3f1c3n7 said:
Doesn’t seem to be anything immoral during hypno-sessions on carnivals, unless obviously hypnotherapist doesn’t force you to do anything immoral, usually they don’t.

“I heard somewhere that they take the mind “off-guard” and that the devil can get inside your mind”
  • Hypnosis is a state of mind in which a subject becomes more aware and focused actually, your mind doesn’t go “off-guard”, but the person also becomes very open to suggestion, so immorality of hypnosis will depend on suggestion.
“It all seems like good fun onstage, and it is a terrific way to relax on your own. I don’t mean some kind of satanic mind control or anything, but as a way to get the body and mind relaxed it seems pretty safe. Can anyone shed light on this for me?”

Satanic mind control? I wonder what you mean by that…
Some people turn hypnosis in to an interactive activity for the audience in order to gain some money or popularity, but usually hypnosis is used to help people in different ways…

If you are deeply concerned about immorality and satanic mind control, you can always consider self-hypnosis, when YOU are in full controll of the suggestion you give to yourself and situation around you. It can not only help you relax body and mind, but could also help you in achieving some goals, everything depends on your believes, power of suggestion and your suggestiobility.

I’d say that Hypnosis and Religion work in the same ways…
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No. Simply no!!!
 
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