I, A Loser, May Get to Hang Out With Sorority Girls

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I am a very recent college graduate (BA in History) and am not finished with my education (I plan to start as a Candidate in the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land and will probably end up in Seminary to train for the Priesthood a few years after that) and still kind of live the college life (i.e. am involved in college ministries at my parish). Anyway, I may now finally get the chance to hang out with Sorority girls, the supreme among women as it were.

Basically, I have a friend at my parish who is good friends with a Sorority girl who is Catholic and she is actually starting a Bible Study at her Sorority. Anyway, my friend may set it up so I can hang out with her and I suggested perhaps he could see if I could serve as a guest at her Bible Study since I am really into my faith (just hope there’s no Protestants there…j/k, they’re still Sorority girls).

See, even though I am a loser in many respects, I am strong in my faith (I do want to be a Franciscan Priest after all). My thing with Sorority is more platonic than anything else, a desire to be validated. Isn’t this cool if it works out? A loser getting to spend time with Sorority girls!
 
nsper7 said:
I am a very recent college graduate (BA in History) and am not finished with my education (I plan to start as a Candidate in the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land and will probably end up in Seminary to train for the Priesthood a few years after that) and still kind of live the college life (i.e. am involved in college ministries at my parish). Anyway, I may now finally get the chance to hang out with Sorority girls, the supreme among women as it were.

Basically, I have a friend at my parish who is good friends with a Sorority girl who is Catholic and she is actually starting a Bible Study at her Sorority. Anyway, my friend may set it up so I can hang out with her and I suggested perhaps he could see if I could serve as a guest at her Bible Study since I am really into my faith (just hope there’s no Protestants there…j/k, they’re still Sorority girls).

See, even though I am a loser in many respects, I am strong in my faith (I do want to be a Franciscan Priest after all). My thing with Sorority is more platonic than anything else, a desire to be validated. Isn’t this cool if it works out? A loser getting to spend time with Sorority girls!
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The concept of being a loser is highly subjective. Since we are what we think, it might be fairly unhealthy to speak to oneself in that way long term.

I had, what I thought at the time, was a wild and crazy party train through a series of sororities. Fast forward 30 years…my daughter ended up in one of those sororities. Cosmic reciprocity. Thankfully she is infinitely more grounded than I was at that age.

Bottom line: When it comes to sororities, be careful what you wish for. Women in sororities are like fire, they can give you great warmth and comfort but they can set you alight and turn you into a smoldering ember while you think you’re having fun. Women are the absolute pinnacle of God’s creation. Nothing in the universe has greater value, IMHO. But, by all means, handle with care! My wife is gorgeous and has more wisdom in her little finger than I can muster in my whole being. She has more value than 5 sororities. It just took me awhile to understand that concept.

As to whether or not one is a loser, that’s the call of the person in question. If one insists that they are, they make themselves so. It’s a choice. Choose wisely.
 
Ah, Nsper7, so you’re a loser and A Priory has some very good thoughts on labelling oneself. (Let it be known I have no knowledge of Sorority Girls, being from a very different part of the world.) Nsper7 I’d encourage you to live your life in the way God leads you and to the best of your ability.

At school and college I was definately not a member of the “cool” crowd. Quiet and shy, one of the nerds, a bit of a swot.

Fast forward more than 30 years, I recently met up with my high school boyfriend - ja, neither of us were in the “in” crowd, far from it - I sometimes thought we were only acceptable at all because we were “dating”. Now he is well established in a different country from his country of birth and is a respected university lecturer there. I am living in a country far from home and am, for the third time in my career holding down a “senior management” type of post in a foreign school. I am sure that no-one in our senior group would have thought either of us “losers” would be so daring in our lives, now acchieve this type of seniority in our chosen fields.

Enjoy “hanging out with sorority girls”, but stay true to yourself, many losers at school become quite different people in later life.
 
nsper7 said:
I am a very recent college graduate (BA in History) and am not finished with my education (I plan to start as a Candidate in the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land and will probably end up in Seminary to train for the Priesthood a few years after that) and still kind of live the college life (i.e. am involved in college ministries at my parish). Anyway, I may now finally get the chance to hang out with Sorority girls, the supreme among women as it were.

Basically, I have a friend at my parish who is good friends with a Sorority girl who is Catholic and she is actually starting a Bible Study at her Sorority. Anyway, my friend may set it up so I can hang out with her and I suggested perhaps he could see if I could serve as a guest at her Bible Study since I am really into my faith (just hope there’s no Protestants there…j/k, they’re still Sorority girls).

See, even though I am a loser in many respects, I am strong in my faith (I do want to be a Franciscan Priest after all). My thing with Sorority is more platonic than anything else, a desire to be validated. Isn’t this cool if it works out? A loser getting to spend time with Sorority girls!
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Here’s some secret info. You have to make a pinky promise never to reveal this: Many sorority girls see themselves as losers. :eek:

The top houses required very high grade point averages plus talent. There might be many fantastic looking girls in the sorority who are the homecoming queens, cheerleaders, and some who might reach national attention. In the same house, there will be very intelligent young women who have the grades, might be leaders, but aren’t as pretty as the others and see themselves as the losers. You know the old saying that is better to be the last in heaven than the first in hell.

Getting cut from a house when one rushes hurts. The feeling one walks away with is you’re not good enough. Very hard when it is your own age group doing the judging not to mention you had hoped to be part of that house.

Why do you see yourself as a loser? You can always work on the image you might be projecting.
 
nsper7 said:
I am a very recent college graduate (BA in History) and am not finished with my education (I plan to start as a Candidate in the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land and will probably end up in Seminary to train for the Priesthood a few years after that) and still kind of live the college life (i.e. am involved in college ministries at my parish). Anyway, I may now finally get the chance to hang out with Sorority girls, the supreme among women as it were.

Basically, I have a friend at my parish who is good friends with a Sorority girl who is Catholic and she is actually starting a Bible Study at her Sorority. Anyway, my friend may set it up so I can hang out with her and I suggested perhaps he could see if I could serve as a guest at her Bible Study since I am really into my faith (just hope there’s no Protestants there…j/k, they’re still Sorority girls).

See, even though I am a loser in many respects, I am strong in my faith (I do want to be a Franciscan Priest after all). My thing with Sorority is more platonic than anything else, a desire to be validated. Isn’t this cool if it works out? A loser getting to spend time with Sorority girls!
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Could you please define “loser” for me? Are you talking about popularity? If that is what you are seeking the handwriting is already on the wall…it is shallow and empty and a life lesson that will more than likely disappoint but sometimes that is how we learn who we really are and what God is asking of us. I am praying for your soft landing…
 
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You seem too attached to girls to be a priest. Ask the Lord Jesus to keep you chaste and to help you overcome your sins, and if He wishes you to be a priest, a priest you shall be.
 
Eucharisted said:
You seem too attached to girls to be a priest. Ask the Lord Jesus to keep you chaste and to help you overcome your sins, and if He wishes you to be a priest, a priest you shall be.
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I certainly think he is intrigued by meeting these girls. I think he needs to get over this idea he’s a loser. I don’t think that is a good self image for a priest or anyone else. Because he projects this image of himself as a loser, he knows no girl will be interested. He needs to work on himself. I wouldn’t want him running to a seminary to hide.

However, I don’t see any sins he needs to overcome.
 
aicirt said:
I certainly think he is intrigued by meeting these girls. I think he needs to get over this idea he’s a loser. I don’t think that is a good self image for a priest or anyone else. Because he projects this image of himself as a loser, he knows no girl will be interested. He needs to work on himself. I wouldn’t want him running to a seminary to hide.

However, I don’t see any sins he needs to overcome.
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:)nsper has admitted to having issues regarding sins,to some on this forum…the first thing that came to my mind regarding nsper was be careful nsper you are playing with fire.:eek:

nsper7: you are the the world’s biggest loser…everything you touch fails for this reason…
try living your life with this attitude and see where you get.
nsper7:YOU ARE A SON OF THE MOST HIGH GOD, try living your life with this attitude and see where it gets you.
 
fbl9 said:
:)nsper has admitted to having issues regarding sins,to some on this forum…the first thing that came to my mind regarding nsper was be careful nsper you are playing with fire.:eek:

nsper7: you are the the world’s biggest loser…everything you touch fails for this reason…
try living your life with this attitude and see where you get.
nsper7:YOU ARE A SON OF THE MOST HIGH GOD, try living your life with this attitude and see where it gets you.
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I think he meant that I don’t have any sins connected to this issue. Obviously, I (and everyone else for that matter) have sins to overcome.
 
nsper7 said:
I think he meant that I don’t have any sins connected to this issue. Obviously, I (and everyone else for that matter) have sins to overcome.
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So very true that we all have sins to overcome.Only you know for sure as to what you have for a cross to carry.Still i say to you be careful you are playing with fire.
 
I had to resuscitate this thread. I wonder if the Sorority women will respect me if I win this upcoming election. I have also come up with several ideas/plots for a story that involve a protagonist driven by a desire to be loved by Sorority women.

Plot Idea 1) This story is set in a time period after America has been horribly hit by a major pandemic (upwards of a 1/3 of the population has died) and the US government has collapsed. With the US’s collpase, there are now two new countries: the United American Federation (which controls all former US territory East of the Mississippi River and is a militarized state) and the Confederation of Western American States (which controls all former US territory West of the Mississippi River and is a loose confederation of former US states). The UAF, in an attempt to control all of the former US territory, has invaded the CWAS and the Supreme Commander of UAF military forces is Matthew Carrow, a 25-year-old (due to all the deaths, there all sorts of oddities in terms of Post-Pandemic leadership) who was involved in the rise of the UAF and has never lost a battle. Gen. Carrow is basically kicking the CWAS’s rump in the war.

In the CWAS, an Intelligence official develops a plan to get Gen. Carrow to defect using a Sorority woman to try and woo him after coming to the conclusion that Carrow’s chief motivator is not power or glory, but being loved by a Sorority woman which he has yet to achieve and feels himself unworthy of. Basically, I base Carrow heavily off of myself and I realize I could see myself abandoning all sorts of high political posts in order to be loved and respected by a Sorority woman.

Plot Idea 2) Basically, I thought of writing a mystery story with a Priest as the main protagonist/sleuth. What about a plot where a Priest has to match wits with a murderous Sorority woman?
 
I only hope that my pastor (if he is a young man), would have an attraction to women his own age. That would prove that he was a normal human being. The thing that I would expect is that he would keep those desires in check and follow the promises he made at ordination.as most priests do. God Bless Our Holy Priests! We are so blessed to have them:)
 
Let’s make some clarifications here.
  1. No one becomes a Franciscan priest. You become a Franciscan Friar. The Franciscan Order is not an order of priests. We are friars and some friars are ALSO priests. But you join the family to be a friar, not to be a priest. You can be a diocesan (secular) and be a priest, if that is your attraction. You join the order to be like Francis, to follow his way of living the Gospel, whether you are ever ordained or not.
  2. It is never a given, at least in the Franciscan family, that a friar will be ordained. A friar can ask for Holy Orders, but the major superior may deny the permission. No bishop will ordain a friar without a letter from the major superior. In that case, the friar remains a friar for life, but never a priest. You usually have a good idea if you will be allowed to be ordained before you make solemn vows, so that you can leave the order if you want to leave. If you choose to make solemn vows knowing that you are not going to be ordained, you are bound, by vows, to live the Franciscan life until death.
  3. A man who considers himself a loser needs to reconsider whether he has a call to follow St. Francis or any other founder. Religious life was founded for men and women who have confidence in themselves. It’s important to be clear on how you use the term loser.
  4. There is nothing wrong with an attraction to girls, even if you want to be a friar. Unlike someone said, there is no need to pray that God will take away a sin that is not there. It is not a sin to have healthy attractions. Friars are not made of stone. They are men with feelings, attractions, likes and dislikes. However, a friar should be a disciplined person. He has control over his passions, can set aside his likes and dislikes for the sake of obedience and charity, and can relate to men and women as his brothers and sisters.
  5. The friars of the Commisereate of the Holy Land are a very special group of religious. They have been in the Middle East for almost eight centuries. They have to learn to live the rule of St. Francis and minister to the Christians there, while at the same time, they must learn to live in peace with Jews and Muslims. Therefore, they must be very ascetical. Their charity and asceticism have earned them the respect of Jews and Muslims alike for many centuries. These men must have very special personalities. In a sense, they are very different from other Franciscans in the family, because of their unique situation. They truly preach with their example, more than with words. Internal discipline is very important to succeed there.
Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Eucharisted said:
You seem too attached to girls to be a priest. Ask the Lord Jesus to keep you chaste and to help you overcome your sins, and if He wishes you to be a priest, a priest you shall be.
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On the contrary, the OP seems to be too much of a “loser” to become a priest.

To the OP: you sound very immature. I suppose that can be blamed on your youth, but as it stands right now, you need some spiritual direction. Don’t even think about seminary until then.
 
Really?? Sorority girls are the supreme among women?? Even if I hadn’t been in a sorority, I think I’d still be a little offended by that statement. At the very least it shows that the OP has a long way to go maturity wise.
 
nsper7 said:
My thing with Sorority is more platonic than anything else, a desire to be validated
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Everything Br JR said plus I would explore you need to be validated by something outside of yourself.

Not a very healthy thing and something that is sure to cause big issues in your future formation.
 
PatriceA said:
Really?? Sorority girls are the supreme among women?? Even if I hadn’t been in a sorority, I think I’d still be a little offended by that statement. At the very least it shows that the OP has a long way to go maturity wise.
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Sorority girls are beautiful and come in groups. Plus, they give men more attention than non-sorority girls. The man has a preference for sorority girls. Give him a break. Nothing wrong with liking a particular subset of girls even if he exaggerates their importance overall. He is young and is supposed to be attracted to sorority girls and even date them if he can. He does not need to find a wifey type yet. He should enjoy platonic friendship with women and have fun while he can because when he is married or in the priesthood the time for fun is over.
 
mjs1987 said:
Sorority girls are beautiful and come in groups. Plus, they give men more attention than non-sorority girls. The man has a preference for sorority girls. Give him a break. Nothing wrong with liking a particular subset of girls even if he exaggerates their importance overall. He is young and is supposed to be attracted to sorority girls and even date them if he can. He does not need to find a wifey type yet. He should enjoy platonic friendship with women and have fun while he can because when he is married or in the priesthood the time for fun is over.
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See, you are doing the exact same thing. Generalizing and stereotyping women just becasue they are in a sorority. You totally missed the point. Just because a woman is in a sorority does not make her any better than a woman that isn’t in a sorority. Its the same mentality that men complain about all the time that women only like men that are jocks or have a ton of money.

And there is something wrong with liking someone just because they have a “title”, and in this case it just happens to be “sorority.”

But hey if you or the OP think women somehow become instantly better because they are “sorority”, be my guest. Seems rather shallow.
 
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