On the unreasonable side of the discussion, A has demanded that we provide “proof” that God exists.
What I said was that I required suitable evidence for the claim. A claim that is mundane would be satisfied with mundane evidence, but a claim that a being created the universe and watches you in case you do something hell-worthy is a huge (and ridiculous) claim which requires huge proof. You are claiming he made a universe - fine - have him do it again where it can be observed and I will believe it. He created this Earth, ok, have him make another on the moon.
His acceptable level of proof must essentially be a “scientific” proof.
evidence, not proof. If I did use ‘proof’, I misused it.
All of this was given ample discussion, and A continuously contended that we must provide this proof because we made a positive assertion that God exists.
Evidence - none of which has been provided. (well, none of sufficient quality)
His position was, according to him, simply one of no belief at all because he had never seen evidence to support a belief. I have paraphrased, but I think I have done so accurately.
Roughly. Well enough, anyway.
Your latest challenge has already been essentially met in a prior thread.
Nope - I don’t remember it being ‘met’. I remember talking about it, but not having compelling evidence presented or anything.
Nevertheless, if A does a proper job of engaging in a discussion that is a meaningful effort to prove his assertion, then I am perfectly willing to take up a reasonable challenge from you.
Let’s do one thing at a time, and let’s exercise some sense of fair play.
I am not claiming that ‘god’ doesn’t exist, that exists, at least, as a class of characters from fiction and myth…like hobbits, or fairies, or witches. If you will say which god you are talking about, I will try to show you why I have learned not to believe what has been said about it. Like the bible having too much contradiction in it to be trustworthy, for example.
A I see that your handle is based on the teachings of Jesus.
Nope, you see what you wish to see, as is true of many persons trying to support a delusion.
I don’t think so.
You mentioned that you grew up Catholic.
I mentioned that a bunch of Catholics tried to inculcate me as a child. I was not a Catholic child, but a child growing up in a Catholic family/community.
I believe it since your handle A was mentioned by Jesus when He said, “I am the Alpha and the Omega.”
It does not stand for ‘alpha’, if I knew how to make it red I would have, then perhaps the meaning would have been more clear.
Some of your posts contradict themselves.
Why not quote them instead of just saying so? If you quote them, it looks like I contradicted me, if you just say so, it looks like you want people to
think I contradicted me.
I think you are still a Catholic but you like to play games.
Then you are simply wrong.
You like to get attention, perhaps something you did NOT get while growing up.
I get all the attention I wish, thanks for asking.
That’s why you hang here.
No. Wrong again.
You want to stay close to the flock just in case your parents were right.
Wrong. My parents did not stay close to the flock, either. I think they still go to midnight mass, just to help them make the kids sleep in on xmas day, as many do.
You had me partially fooled for awhile but no longer.
I am right here to ask, why do you guess (and guess wrong) instead?
By your reasoning, I could say that you are not a christian, but a witch. Instead, I will do what I can to accept what you say about yourself.
You are a liar.
You don’t disbelieve the bible, you know the bible.
I know it well enough to know that there is nothing there worth believing. If it weren’t for apologists, no-one could believe it. It is ridiculously, stunningly wrong about so many things!
Someone should start another thread entitled, "A Gets an “F” for trying to fool us.
Help yourself.
Now that you have been found out I doubt very much whether your ploy will continue to work.
Does this mean you will go away?
You might as well discuss chess or something else innane.
I would be glad to. Would you have anything to discuss about it? Or will you just claim that I don’t like chess, and scrabble is really the game I like?
Oh you will still try to hang but any credibility you had as an “Atheist” is now gone. I hope you are a better chess player than you are at playing “charades”!
I don’t think I was playing charades here. I would need to post videos for that. As to your lack of belief that I am an atheist - I know that it is tough for you to accept facts, but really, I am an atheist. I am an atheist because there has been no event which caused me to believe in a god or gods. I think it would take evidence. Have you got any, or would you rather go on shutting your ears and saying ‘YOU AREN’T REALLY AN ATHEIST, YOU AREN’T REALLY AN ATHEIST’?
As to my handle, it was as close as I could get to this symbol…
http://outcampaign.org/promo/scarletletter_out_sm.gif
