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coolcatholicguy
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What leads you to think that a C-section or other medically necessary treatment would be immoral?Is it?
Please explain why you, coolcatholicguy, think it might not be.Is it?
Saving all lives involved, baby and mother …
Medically necessary…
I sometimes really worry about some of the questions I read on these forums… and now it’s time to log off and stay gone for a few days … sometimes I think people are trolling for some action of some sort … ugh!
I agree that it is moral.What leads you to think that a C-section or other medically necessary treatment would be immoral?
This is what I was thinking of - there are stories out there of women who have them, not for medical necessity, but because for whatever reason they think of c-sections as ‘cleaner’, less awkward, less ‘icky’ in general than a vaginal birth.This link seems to provide more insight into the question: nfpandmore.org/Morality.shtml
It seems that a c-section could have moral implications if it is an unnecessary procedure.
I have heard similar things that C-section has been preferred by doctors, especially when the mother is a risk of her own life, if she was to give birth naturally. Like not having wide enough hips…or too sickly etc etc.This is what I was thinking of - there are stories out there of women who have them, not for medical necessity, but because for whatever reason they think of c-sections as ‘cleaner’, less awkward, less ‘icky’ in general than a vaginal birth.
And there are stories of doctors who perform them, again not for reasons of medical necessity, but because it’s quicker, or perceived as being safer than natural birth (which as far as I know isn’t true).
Unless a woman had a very serious level of phobia surrounding the idea of natural childbirth, such reasons shouldn’t even enter into the equation
real risk = medical necessity. I’m talking lazy doctors here.I have heard similar things that C-section has been preferred by doctors, especially when the mother is a risk of her own life, if she was to give birth naturally. Like not having wide enough hips…or too sickly etc etc.
Ah~ LOL maybe it is lazy doctors who make up the hip-size thing…I think I heard about that when a old school friend gave birth (silly silly girl too only 17 at the time!real risk = medical necessity. I’m talking lazy doctors here.
Not sure that narrow hips usually qualifies as a risk - my four sisters run pretty much the full spectrum in terms of body shape, the ease of birth of their children (I don’t have any) seems to be totally unrelated to hip size![]()
It has been kind of bothering me. It might be simply and intrusive thought.Please explain why you, coolcatholicguy, think it might not be.
It would be very good for your intellectual development if you would try to apply some logic to these questions. It would help your scrupulosity as well if you could think through the intrusive thoughts that bother you.It has been kind of bothering me. It might be simply and intrusive thought.
It is a logical question though, there are some women that will pressure a doctor to perform a C-section and there are doctors that do perfom them, when it is not medically necessary. Obviously the question had been raised by other Catholics as well or it wouldn’t be featured on some of the Catholic websites that popped up when I googled the question myself.It would be very good for your intellectual development if you would try to apply some logic to these questions. It would help your scrupulosity as well if you could think through the intrusive thoughts that bother you.
So, IS there a reason you think it might be wrong? What do you conclude when you apply some logic to the question?
I didn’t mean to imply that the question was illogical, only that the OP should give it some thought on his own. He suffers terribly from scrupulosity, and I was trying to help him develop the habit of fighting his intrusive thoughts with logic. Thinking is better than panicking.It is a logical question though, there are some women that will pressure a doctor to perform a C-section and there are doctors that do perfom them, when it is not medically necessary. Obviously the question had been raised by other Catholics as well or it wouldn’t be featured on some of the Catholic websites that popped up when I googled the question myself.
It is a logical question. I’ve noticed a trend lately on CAF for members to become annoyed with posters asking questions that others find innane or bothersome or illogical. Many of those same questions were ones that I asked myself when I decided to pursue my faith on a deeper level. Thank God, the people I asked were very patient with me and charitable.
Put it this way - would you say cosmetic surgery (as in someone having surgery who looked perfectly fine, healthy and normal but wanted to alter their appearance on a permanent basis via surgery) was moral?That is a choice between a woman her doctor!
Exactly WHO is being harmed during a C section?
Seriously, the stuff some people wonder about makes my head spin. Life must be pretty good.
There was a news article I saw yesterday re. a significant risk for the increase of placental attachment problems following c-sections. The scarring of the uterus following a c-section seems to create future placental attachment issues such as placenta previa.Put it this way - would you say cosmetic surgery (as in someone having surgery who looked perfectly fine, healthy and normal but wanted to alter their appearance on a permanent basis via surgery) was moral?
You’re talking about cutting into a perfectly healthy body, to alter it on a permanent and irreversible basis, with all the risks that any operation involves, when it’s not necessary to do so, purely for reasons of vanity.
Such an action surely offends God who created the temple of the Holy Spirit that is a perfectly healthy and well-functioning human body, and looked at His creation and called it good. It’s us telling God that His plan for the human body isn’t good enough even when functioning properly and according to His design.
Using the same logic, an unnecessary c-section (one performed on a woman who is well able to give birth vaginally) similarly amounts to cutting into a perfectly good and healthy and well-functioning human body for no sufficient reason.
Again, since God created the process of natural childbirth, it’s us telling God that His plan for human reproduction isn’t good enough even when all is functioning according to that plan.