I am so angry right now

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I am sorry for the crude, angry language and the rant but I need to pour my heart out. I am so angry, so ferociously angry that it is only with Mary’s grace that I do not get this monitor and chuck it with this stupid keyboard out the window.

I am sick and tired of all this anti-catholicism. I am not talking about criticizing or disagreeing with the Church’s doctrines; I am not even talking about criticizing the inquisition or the crusades, nor even about exposing these cover ups. I am talking about making absolute **** up about the Church to vilify it and to ‘show’ what a thoroughly evil and irredeemable society it is. I am talking about exaggerating its faults and what not.

Recently, a documentary came out by BBC showing how General Franco of Spain kidnapped children and placed them who to him were better suited families, specifically ones who were Catholic. Now these people didn’t know that these children were kidnapped and the Children were brought up thinking that their mothers had died and what not. That happened, and a few Priests and nuns were responsible. Now making a documentary about this isn’t wrong but spreading misinformation is. Almost every blog and anti-catholic site which talked about the documentary delightfully stated how it was **the Catholic Church **, and not a few bastard Priests and nuns, that was responsible for this ‘child trafficking’, without acknowledging General freaking Franco’s role, the same general who killed 10,000 communists just because they opposed him and his sick intents, as if the whole Catholic Church has a policy of child kidnapping for the ‘greater good’.

The documentary says that 900 cases at that time were being investigated but that the numbers could be as high as 300,000. You heard that right, 300,000 something which is impossible given the circumstances. Not even that many children are sexually trafficked in the USA. They also delightfully say how this child kidnapping is exclusive to Catholicism, without doing their bloody research on cases such as those of the US: docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:UXw4m3gQi14J:www.acfc.org/site/DocServer/TheCorruptBusinessOfChildProtectiveServices.pdf?docID%3D1961+The+Corrupt+Business+of+Child+Protective+Services&hl=pl&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg2SzTUnDmvX5xD4H6ADTzw8e59XvDKnazib62o6hIu4MBT_s7HH1av61G54IuFdn26JvlDfbB82mrr6wm20l56ay_xrchfAzmN3etGW_-PnCYAzC-OJSWCol_P-YDry2iMW2NX&sig=AHIEtbTM6i0kf9f-M_MjTGZhx08AF_AZaQ (if the link does not work, google Nancy Schaefer). One website even said that 30,000 children were abused in Ireland, despite that number only referring to children who passed through industrial schools in Ireland, some of them not even being Catholic.

And then we have the absolutely retarded myth of ‘Hitler’s Pope’. Alot of people, some of them Jews and rabbis, spoke about how insulting and retarded this myth but to show how anti-catholic the media is, I refer to this article: 30giorni.it/articoli_id_7884_l3.htm Let the New York times see if it’s interested.

As for the sex abuse scandal, the media has turned it from anger at those corrupt bishops covering it up to mass hysteria at Priests being pedophiles or child molesters, despite actual pedophile Priests being a minority, just as flipping teachers and adoption agencies being as likely to molest children. Recently, it was ‘revealed’ in a document that during the course of 60 years the Catholic Church abused 20,000 children in the Netherlands… except it WASN’T the Catholic Church that the document held responsible for this horrible stuff, it only said that institutions of any kind, be they secular, protestant, Catholic, etc… are more likely to abuse children. See this evidence here: irishcatholic.ie/site/content/distorted-coverage-dutch-abuse-report

Do you know whats funny? The media ignores the fact that in the past, the Catholic Church took strong measures against sexual abuse and those measures actually worked. Cardinal Peter Damian wrote the book of Gomorrah and was responsible for a crackdown on Priestly corruption; Pius V made it a law in Horrendum to publicly expose, excommunicate and even execute Priests convicted of sodomy and pedophilia; Benedict XIV and the 1922 Vatican document on solicitation made it a law to publicly expose such corrupt Priests and excommunicate them and to leave them to secular authorities to deal with them. Hell, Bishop Anthony Mary Claret sent Priests into retirement homes to do penance if he found out they attended a brothel, and a Priest in the '50’s whose name escape me found a home for Priests suffering with alcoholism and other problems, and this same Priests wrote to Bishops in the US about Priestly sexual abuse.
 
Do you people even care about the effects sexual abuse has on the child or do you simply care about reading such shocking things? Are you more glad at not being as monstrous as all those ‘corrupt’ nuns or are you glad that such children re saved. Wait, you aren’t because if you cared for the children, you wouldn’t vilify all Catholics are complete monsters and would acknowledge that we, through our clergy and religious did good. If it weren’t for John Bosco, countless children wouldn’t have gotten education; if it wasn’t for Euphrasia Pelletier, countless children wouldn’t have been saved from prostitution and rehabilitated; if it weren’t for Mary Joseph Rosello, numerous girls who lost their families through slavery wouldn’t be saved and would have died from hunger or worse, left alone with their captors; without Pius XII, 800,000 Jews wouldn’t be saved; without the missionaries in the Americas, slavery wouldn’t be abolished and the natives would have still been treated like animals by oppressive lords (not the Spanish; Herman Cortes was a swell guy and a friend to the natives and Philip III abolished slavery in 1600.); without the Blessed Virgin Mary, lots of Catholics would have become Knight templars if it weren’t for her grace and gentleness that softened their hearts. I’m one of these people touched by Mary. And I can go on and on for about 3 hours. In fact, there are two books both called Modern Saints: Their lives and Faces by Ann Ball and both are published by TAN books. Buy them. If you doubt Catholics can do good, this book will change your mind completely.

The media insults not only Catholics and Priests when it paints all of or the majority of them as complete monsters, it insults all the people the Church helped and whom it changed their lives, it insults the faith as if the actions of some prove that the faith is wrong. Hey, people, the French revolution killed 40,000 people, the American revolution was racist and kicked natives out of their homeland and there was a lack of religious freedom in democratic countries such as that of the first Spanish republic and post-unification of Italy government… therefore, democracy is bad! Not a very convincing argument eh? Imagine telling that to someone after they made a litany of ‘atrocities’ committed by Catholics.

I’ll admit that Catholics did do terrible things such as the Albigensian crusade and discrimination against Jews but certainly not all Catholics are murderers, and certainly not all the ‘atrocities’ committed are real atrocities and that representations of them are greatly exaggerated, no? The Inquisition wasn’t that bad and actually did good, the crusades were a just war (google Listverse: the 8 crusades explained) and even brought peace upon those conquered lands, freedom of religion makes no sense and certainly not even the majority of Popes were Rodrigo Borgia the second, no? Then why do does the media keep spreading such lies?

Instead of offering us reasons why our faith makes no sense, it instead gives a litany of fake atrocities because it can’t say out loud ‘Hey, I’m not Catholic because the Catholic Church supports genocide and pedophilia!’. Yet they can’t say that for obvious reasons; if they could, they would say hey, Catholicism=destruction.

Throughout all these miserable months of research, I conclude that not only are atheists and secularists just as guilty as catholics of doing atrocities, often, their crimes are often worse. This is not to say that atheists are secular humanists are evil; far from it, I’ve met more than my fair share of decent atheists and Protestants on the net, but if you think the Catholic Church is irredeemably evil, that it is not a force of good in the world, if you make up lies and half truths about it and spread this misinformation around, then please go, grab a hammer and knock some sense into yourself for being such an idiot. Thanks.

Again, sorry for the rant and please lets discuss this topic. That was months of supressed anger poured out in the 3 hours I spent writing this.
 
The liberally based media believes in the “if it feels good do it” mentality. The Catholic Church stands for truth and values. Satan is constantly attacking our Church, and this is one way that he does so. I also am offended by much of the information that media puts out, as well as the comments made on internet news sites. We can help by standing up for what is right, and for living our lives as good examples of what Catholicism is really about.

DGB
 
Yah, I don’t get it either. 🤷
The editor of one of my favorite little magazines went off on a similar tangent: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=639588

Most of the time I don’t even know where it is coming from, or why; I see it a lot from other Christians who seem otherwise very kind, honest people. This I truly don’t understand. If an atheist makes up lies, well…he likely hates the whole system anyway, no real surprise. But when people who accept parts of the system invent or believe lies about the other parts…why?
 
This kind of thing infuriates me too. I think the Catholic Church is so maligned because we are the one true Church. It’s Satan using the media & even other Christians to persecute the Faith.
 
This kind of thing infuriates me too. I think the Catholic Church is so maligned because we are the one true Church. It’s Satan using the media & even other Christians to persecute the Faith.
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Fulton Sheen said something like “If you want to know which one is Christ’s true church, then find the church which is most maligned by the world.”
 
The very simple question one has to ask (and non-Catholics hardly ever do) is, “Does the Catholic religion permit these actions?” The answer is no. Therefore those involved were acting outside of their religion, and their religion cannot be held accountable.
 
Thanks everyone for the response. Man, I hate this hypocrital world and its stupid people, you hardly find anyoe tnat is decent.

We are better than this, MUCH better. Why can’t we take the Rosary in our arms, the Blessed Virgin as our Guide and Shield and preach to people about the true faith and about the lies of atheism and the media? Are we going to stand here like sitting ducks as if we’re guilty of genocide or are we going to expose these lies and admit that despite evil being done, it isn’t exclusive to Catholicism and that we can give equally, if not more so, damning examples of child kidnapping and abuse. We have the saints and the influence of the Blessed Mother to show people so lets do it, after doing research.🙂
 
Welcome to the BBC! The most bigoted broadcasting source in the world.

Bigoted Broadcasting Company. Hmm, almost has a ring to it.
 
yeah same here in Ireland, daily doses of anti-catholic sentiment, yesterday it was catholic church led the way for the nazi techniques in torture from the spanish inquistion thus suggesting to the listener the catholic church = nazi.
Today it is on a boston padeophile priest in jail.old story rehashed to remind people.
hardly a day goes by that the church does not get a mention on the main radio station on some past incident.
there is no country or instituion would come out well if we continually looked back at it’s 2000 year old history with today’s standards.
 
yeah same here in Ireland, daily doses of anti-catholic sentiment, yesterday it was catholic church led the way for the nazi techniques in torture from the spanish inquistion thus suggesting to the listener the catholic church = nazi.
Today it is on a boston padeophile priest in jail.old story rehashed to remind people.
hardly a day goes by that the church does not get a mention on the main radio station on some past incident.
there is no country or instituion would come out well if we continually looked back at it’s 2000 year old history with today’s standards.
Indeed. You know the Belfast Telegraph (although not relating to the BBC) had a full 2 page article this time 2 years ago about how “…because St Patrick came to Ulster, he was most likely a protestant”

No joke, that is the sort of thing that gets printed. Ignorance and bigotry never seem to change, atleast against Catholicism. God forbid if anyone mentions anything to with islam, even though their dogma is in support of sin, whereas ours isn’t, or anything to do with the secular movement even though they claim not to believe in objective truth, morality or reality.

It’s depressing indeed, but at the very least the devil is showing by his own bias where the real truth is. Something most of the world should ponder on.
 
Indeed. You know the Belfast Telegraph (although not relating to the BBC) had a full 2 page article this time 2 years ago about how “…because St Patrick came to Ulster, he was most likely a protestant”
Are you suggesting that he wasn’t? :eek: I’ve been going to St. Pat’s to get away from all those Catholic people.

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Guys, can anyone help me? I’ve been suffering from a lot of depression lately. I’ve neglected my prayer life and reading all these anti-catholic comments, all these prejudices and flanderization by those militant atheist idiots has made me very depressed. I can swear that Hitchens’ face can remove the love out of any scene in a movie:rolleyes:.

If an atheist is reading this, I’m not saying that atheists are evil, not at all, nor am I saying that atheists are more likely to be immoral than religious. But then again, being religious isn’t more likely to make you immoral as some atheists will give the two penced excuse that atheists in prison are a minority. What an answer! So does that mean that people of the B hai faith because they make an even less minority in prisons than atheists mean that they are more holy than atheists?

We are opposed to atheism not because we hate atheists, we just do it because atheism poses a threat to society and its morals, just as atheists see us as a threat to their point of freedom. Don’t say that we should tolerate you; tolerance is a stupid word. If someone came into your house and spat in it, would you not kick him out? We don’t want to kill atheists, we want to convicne them that they are wrong and that we are right and if they found that God does exist, they themselves would view their former atheist friends as lost sheep in the eyes of God and Mary.

But Dawkins, Hitchens, Harriss, Penn and Teller? How can you even listen to them? These aren’t people who merely critisize religion, these are people who want to remove religion form our lives, who don’t admit that religion can do and did immense good, who generalize Christians as an oppressive stereotype, etc… they even make up lies that Christians supported Hitler, that Pius XII is Hitler’s Pope and other absolute rubbish.

Recently, there was a girl who won a case in court to remove a prayer banner, saying it was unconstitutional. What. The. Hell. So is it wrong today for schools to endorse a religion? Were they forcing Christianity down her throat? What was so unconstituinal about it? Is it unconstitutional for Americans to endorse a rleigion? Why don’t we make it a law that a Christian can’t be elected in office so that the constitution would show that it doesn’t endorse any religion? Whats wrose is that the constitution doesn’t recongnize any one religion as superior than another and actually allows freedom of religion, even Satanism as long as it doesn’t go agaisnt the law. So what happens if a devout Catholic president gets elected? Should he be removed from office if he uses religious inspiration to do good, even if he doesn’t change any of the laws in the USA?

Jessica Alqhuist, you complain about being harrassed. While they are bad and excessive, no flipping wonder. We’d be angry too if you treated our religion in such a discraceful way. Why can’t we be left alone in our faith? Why can’t a school encourage teens to convert to Christianity? Isn’t this bullying? Jessica, you may not be irredeemably evil but you are and will always be a douchebag.:mad: Let atheists be interested in my comment and call me a bullying ****.
 
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this is last saturday’s gospel just as the apostles feared the worst so now do you, have faith in Jesus and pray for those on the wrong road rather than get angry with them.
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 Yes, the only way to beat this is to put enthrone Jesus Christ over  the things we can't control.  So we have to do so by prayer.   Only Jesus Christ can penetrate the darkest hearts and save them, us, all. Through prayer and penance we can uplift all by giving it to Christ.
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Your thread title is that you’re angry. Try to stay calm if you can because the enemy wants you to feel angry, but Jesus wants you to feel at peace. If possible, try to view atheists as being a bit further behind us on the journey towards God, rather than enemies to fight off. We’re all in the same boat darling, trying to get to God:)
 
Your thread title is that you’re angry. Try to stay calm if you can because the enemy wants you to feel angry, but Jesus wants you to feel at peace. If possible, try to view atheists as being a bit further behind us on the journey towards God, rather than enemies to fight off. We’re all in the same boat darling, trying to get to God:)
The modern secular society is the way it is more or less because it wasn’t fought off. But I know what you are saying, to sharpen it more, add temperance to your anger. You’re (the OP) angry for a just cause. But as they say, “hatred is only successful, when it causes others to hate in return”, therefore if you allow anger to consume you it turns immediately unjust and the fire lit in your fireplace begins to set your carpet on fire, so to speak.

I sometimes think how St John the Baptist would react to the modern world. He would be howling.
 
Sounds like its time to unplug for a little while, if possible. The arguments probably won’t change in your absence. Go for a walk instead of watching the news, have fun with children or friends instead of checking the Internets. You are not allowed near a TV. Don’t make me come over there. 🙂
 
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