I am troubled by this

[AnotherMe]

First let me say I am a revered Catholic. I am very happy in the Catholic faith.
I have been praying The Seven Sorrows of Mary. I was extremely blessed up until I got to this verse “You accomplished the will of God the Father; and according to His will, you have become our savior with Jesus.” I am sorry, but there is only one Savior and that is Jesus Christ. I have no problem with the Immaculate Conception. Might this be an error on the website? To say Mary is Savior with Jesus goes against scripture.

sorrowfulmother.net/seven-sorrows-rosary.html

 

[JaredR]

The language may seem indiscreet for our times, but the idea is sound. What do people mean when they say “I want to save souls”? They don’t mean they have the power to do what Christ did. Mary saves us by bringing us to her Son. I think St. Paul uses similar language to refer to himself saving souls, but maybe someone else can supply the reference. We should all be little saviors with Christ.

Omit the language if it troubles you, but really it’s not saying as much as you think.

 

[Ad_Orientem]

That kind of language is not at all foreign to our faith. It is used (in different contexts) by St. Paul, St. James, and St. Jude in the Bible.

1 Cor. 7:16 “For how knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? Or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?”

1 Cor. 9:22 “I became all things to all men, that I might save all.”

1 Tim. 4:16 “Take heed to thyself and to doctrine: be earnest in them. For in doing this thou shalt both save thyself and them that hear thee.”

Jas. 5:20 “He must know that he who causeth a sinner to be converted from the error of his way, shall save his soul from death, and shall cover a multitude of sins.”

Jude 1:22-23 “Some indeed reprove, being judged: But others save, pulling them out of the fire.”

But our Lady’s role as co-redemptrix is unique, as Pope John Paul II pointed out, e.g. in this brief speech.

 

[JaredR]

Thanks Ad Orientem! Those were the references I needed.

 

[Linusthe2nd]

First let me say I am a revered Catholic. I am very happy in the Catholic faith.
I have been praying The Seven Sorrows of Mary. I was extremely blessed up until I got to this verse “You accomplished the will of God the Father; and according to His will, you have become our savior with Jesus.” I am sorry, but there is only one Savior and that is Jesus Christ. I have no problem with the Immaculate Conception. Might this be an error on the website? To say Mary is Savior with Jesus goes against scripture.

sorrowfulmother.net/seven-sorrows-rosary.html

You have to be careful not to take these things literally. It probably means that it was through Mary’s obedience and fidelity to God’s will, her Son was willing to fulfill His mission of salvation. He was always obedient to her will and she had to be willing to have Him suffer and sacrefice Himself or He would not have done it. So in a real way our salvation depended on her but, it was her Son who made the actual sacrefice. So He is the only Savior, but she made it possible. At least that is my interpretation. Her obedience without His would not have earned us anything.

I think the meditations are beautiful. Personally I use the traditional form of the Rosary. One can be a fanatic on these things. Pick one and stick to it. Or just substitute one for the other occassionally.
Linus2nd

 

[Ben_F]

The blood that Jesus shed for us? Where did it come from? God bless:thumbsup:

 

[thistle]

First let me say** I am a revered** Catholic. I am very happy in the Catholic faith.
I have been praying The Seven Sorrows of Mary. I was extremely blessed up until I got to this verse “You accomplished the will of God the Father; and according to His will, you have become our savior with Jesus.” I am sorry, but there is only one Savior and that is Jesus Christ. I have no problem with the Immaculate Conception. Might this be an error on the website? To say Mary is Savior with Jesus goes against scripture.

sorrowfulmother.net/seven-sorrows-rosary.html

I’m not sure that is the word to be ascribed to yourself.

 

[Linusthe2nd]

That kind of language is not at all foreign to our faith. It is used (in different contexts) by St. Paul, St. James, and St. Jude in the Bible.

1 Cor. 7:16 “For how knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? Or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?”

1 Cor. 9:22 “I became all things to all men, that I might save all.”

1 Tim. 4:16 “Take heed to thyself and to doctrine: be earnest in them. For in doing this thou shalt both save thyself and them that hear thee.”

Jas. 5:20 “He must know that he who causeth a sinner to be converted from the error of his way, shall save his soul from death, and shall cover a multitude of sins.”

Jude 1:22-23 “Some indeed reprove, being judged: But others save, pulling them out of the fire.”

But our Lady’s role as co-redemptrix is unique, as Pope John Paul II pointed out, e.g. in this brief speech.

No, Mary is not co-redemptrix, Mary never had nor could have the ability to redeem mankind, that is the work that can only be done by a Divine Person. Mary helps us by co-operating with everything Christ did and she continues her intervention for man. It is not a good idea to anticipate Dogmas which may never happen. And it is not a good idea to hold as true which can only be known by Divine Revelation and/or by a Solemn Definition, and it is a terrible to spread it around.

Linus2nd