I believe the Jesuits are the best Catholic order!

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I will elaborate later, but I have seen a lot of scrutiny of the Jesuits around these parts lately. I was just wondering what your guys opinions were of them. I posted this on another post about the Jesuits:
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I currently attend a Jesuit high school and recently attended a retreat and this is what I have found:

I personally love the Jesuits, they recongnize that the Church is important, but it is not the be-all and end-all of life. The Sacraments and following every single rite and rule to the letter of the law is not necessary, but rather helps us to become closer to God in the best way possible. I declare myself a good Catholic, but St. Paul said it himself, following the rules of a certain religion doesnt get you into heaven, heaven is a gift, and is one that can only be received by the grace of God. I think that the Church should listen more to the Jesuits, and I think that the Church is more of a help than an absolute necessity.
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coolcatholicguy said:
I will elaborate later, but I have seen a lot of scrutiny of the Jesuits around these parts lately. I was just wondering what your guys opinions were of them. I posted this on another post about the Jesuits:
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This is blatant bait, we can’t comment save to say that we either do or don’t find their spirituality helpful as calling the orthodoxy of approved religious congregations/orders into question is not permitted by the forum rules.
 
I wouldn’t say “best”!
All orders are different, and should be
they each have special charisms that are particularly their own.
There should be no “better” or “best”.

That said, I agree with you that they Jesuits are cool!! 😃 👍
St. Ignatius and the Jesuit way changed my life and made me a better Christian.

What I love about them is that they are intellectuals and very highly educated.
They like to “push the envelope” to get people thinking, which I think is soemthing that we don’t do enough of anymore! 😛

Sure, there are some who may stray a little,…
every family has a “black sheep” or 2! 😉

Think about there the Church would be without them, though…
 
I guess the main idea I am trying to get at is that they point out that the Church is important, but not the be-all and end-all of our existence. I would encourage you guys to read through the thread “Liberal Jesuits?” to see where I am coming from. Also, we are called to worship God, not the Church.
 
I also attend a Jesuit High School; without the Jesuits I would never have known the joy of “faith seeking understanding.”
 
I barely have a historic understanding of the Jesuits. Someone please correct me but my synopsis of them is:

“The Jesuits were founded long ago(maybe middle ages?) to act as a powerful arm of the Church. They specialized in focusing on serious study, evangelization, and a sort of “old school” approach to spreading the Catholic faith. Starting in the 20th century, the Jesuits have become far more modernist in many of their dealings and philosophy and they have lost of a lot of the strength of purpose and clarity that once defined them.”

That’s sort of the rap they have, but I really have no experience with them and can only go by articles and discussions. Am I close to being accurate?
 
I have only ever met one Jesuit. I served my first Roman Mass (I serve Byzantine and Maronite regularly) with him on Sunday - he chants the propers and the antiphons and it rocks. Tons of incense!

He’s super orthodox, too. Nothing but praise for the Jesuits based off of what I know personally!
 
Personally, I think all orders have something unique to offer. I think the Catholic world would be less without the diversity of the orders.
 
A Jesuit, a Dominican, and a Franciscan were walking along an old road, debating the greatness of their orders. Suddenly, an apparition of the Holy Family appeared in front of them, with Jesus in a manger and Mary and Joseph praying over him.

The Franciscan fell on his face, overcome with awe at the sight of God born in such poverty.

The Dominican fell to his knees, adoring the beautiful reflection of the Trinity and the Holy Family.

The Jesuit walked up to Joseph, put his arm around his shoulder, and said, “So, have you thought about where to send the boy to school?”

😃
 
I don’t think it’s fair to call them the best order in the Catholic Church. In fact, NONE of us can say who the best religious order or congregation is. Each religious order and congregation has its own charism that render service to God and His Church. These charisms helped shape the Catholic Church. They are all equal in the eyes of the Church.

More over, I think such claims are rather subjective. We judge each order according to our own experiences or what we read. That alone is unfair to the orders.

I think it’s fair to say that they are the best at what they do. The Jesuits are the best at being Jesuits. The Dominicans are the best at being Dominicans. The Franciscans are best at being Franciscans. And so on and so forth. These religious orders and congregations are best for the Church.

I say this as a student of the Jesuits, and have undergone formation under them.
 
Dominicans Vs. The Jesuits

Q: When we’re the Dominicans founded and why?

A: in the 12th century to combat the heresy of Albigensianism.
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Q: When we’re the Jesuits founded and why?

A: in the 16th century to combat the heresy of Protestantism.

Q: when’s the last time you met an Albigensian?
 
I guess the title of my thread should have been more well thought out. The reason I said this was because I was quite frankly a little mad that people were attacking them in another thread. I apologize for not talking the other orders into consideration.
 
Nec5 said:
I barely have a historic understanding of the Jesuits. Someone please correct me but my synopsis of them is:

“The Jesuits were founded long ago(maybe middle ages?) to act as a powerful arm of the Church. They specialized in focusing on serious study, evangelization, and a sort of “old school” approach to spreading the Catholic faith. Starting in the 20th century, the Jesuits have become far more modernist in many of their dealings and philosophy and they have lost of a lot of the strength of purpose and clarity that once defined them.”

That’s sort of the rap they have, but I really have no experience with them and can only go by articles and discussions. Am I close to being accurate?
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Ummmm… why not include all the other orders? All families have problem children.
 
coolcatholicguy said:
I guess the title of my thread should have been more well thought out. The reason I said this was because I was quite frankly a little mad that people were attacking them in another thread. I apologize for not talking the other orders into consideration.
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What, can’t I have a little tongue-and-cheek fun?
 
choliks said:
Ummmm… why not include all the other orders? All families have problem children.
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I was just trying to get a baseline on the Jesuits; I wasn’t looking to make some sort of comparison to other orders, most of which I am quite ignorant of.
 
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