I can’t find evidence of anti-communism in the Bible?

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Maybe I’m dead wrong, but that’s what it seems to me.

Why does this matter? Because if the Bible doesn’t say it, Catholics have to rely on the word of the church, which makes it harder to convince non-believes that it’s a question of faith purely, with no politics or worldly interests involved.

Any thoughts on this?
 
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Curious11 said:
Maybe I’m dead wrong, but that’s what it seems to me.

Why does this matter? Because if the Bible doesn’t say it, Catholics have to rely on the word of the church, which makes it harder to convince non-believes that it’s a question of faith purely, with no politics or worldly interests involved.

Any thoughts on this?
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Communists are atheists. Check out Marx and Lenin’s many statements on religion.
The Bible is all about belief in God. By definition that means the Bible is anti-Communist!
 
Nope. Ever heard of liberation theology? There’s such a thing as Christian communism
 
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Nope. Ever heard of liberation theology? There’s such a thing as Christian communism
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Communism is against any religion. The early church in the book of Acts was socialist and shared everything in common. Sadly we have not followed this model of the early church
 
A political system in and of itself is not a part of faith. If you could live a completely communistic way that upheld Christian beliefs and morals in their entirety, than there is no problem with communism in and of itself.

But if you are going to practice it as it is practiced under atheistic regimes, that will never be a good thing because it places no value on the individual person created in the image and likeness of God.
 
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Nope. Ever heard of liberation theology? There’s such a thing as Christian communism
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You are now moving the goalposts. The founders of Communism openly declared their atheism and condemned religious beliefs. Your thread is about Communism. Please stay on topic. If you want to discuss liberation theology start another thread.
 
That’s not socialism in my opinion. For one thing, the Bible doesn’t speak of organizing society as a system of social ownership of the means of production, which is in fact what socialism is, despite the many loose definitions have become fashionable over the decades. The early church was sharing voluntarily, and most importantly they were sharing personal property in a particular context, not as a general rule. There’s no program put forth anywhere in the Bible that Christians must live like that always and everywhere, and the Bible doesn’t mention that kind of sharing anywhere else
 
Communism wasn’t invented until the 19th Century, so there was no anti-communism in biblical times.
 
Great stuff there. That’s what I was thinking. Communism and Christianity aren’t necesarrily opposed. It depends on which type of communism. That’s my view, anyway.
 
Liberation theology mixes communism with Christianity. I can hardly think of something more relevant for this thread.
 
Marxism was developed in the 19th century, communism as a concept has always existed in various forms. Paleolithic prehistoric hunter gatherers, it is believed, were “primitive communists”, as a matter of fact.
 
Acts 2:44 All who believed were together and had all things in common; 45 they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need.

Early church was not socialist? Then what is this?
 
I feel I’ve explained myself well enough in my answer to your previous post. If there’s something in my post you specifically have an issue with you can tell me. Nothing personal, I’m just trying to avoid arguing in circles.
 
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Paleolithic prehistoric hunter gatherers, it is believed, were “primitive communists”, as a matter of fact.
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I don’t know enough about anthropology to comment on that.

But “anti-communism”, which was what the OP was about, refers to opposition to marxism-leninism.
 
I’m the OP and that’s not what I meant. Marxism is one type of communism, there’s other types.
 
Communism also has the tendency to try to eliminate any “class” and make all man the same. From a Catholic point of view this is in direct conflict with the Priesthood, and religious authority within the Church. Communism is in opposition to Catholicism and Christianity in general as it would also challenge the authority of Jesus Christ.
 
Priesthood, or rather the clergy, is no longer a privileged class since the French Revolution. Priesthood is not a social class, and therefore have nothing to worry about in a non-atheist and theoretically benign communist system. The Church also would have nothing to fear as long as it was willing to give up property of its productive assets.
 
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There’s no program put forth anywhere in the Bible that Christians must live like that always and everywhere, and the Bible doesn’t mention that kind of sharing anywhere else
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Oh it does mention this many times in scripture from Jesus parables, Book if James, and many more.

Matthew 19:21
21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.”

Should I quote more??
 
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He tells that to one guy. A guy who was rich and bragging about how good he thought he was. The moral of that story isn’t socialism, but that love of money is a root of much evil. Jesus encouraged charity, but he didn’t say you need to sell everything and be a wanderer to be a good Christian, if that happened nobody would work the fields and we’d all die of hunger
 
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Priesthood, or rather the clergy, is no longer a privileged class since the French Revolution. Priesthood is not a social class, and therefore have nothing to worry about in a non-atheist and theoretically benign communist system. The Church also would have nothing to fear as long as it was willing to give up property of its productive assets.
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I’m not talking about a privileged social class, I’m referring to an authoritative religious class. Since all persons are equal in the communistic view, there is no one who can say with authority what is right or wrong, including Jesus. It is anti-Christian at it’s core.
 
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