I cannot get used to the fact that we will not meet our love ones in Heaven

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Matthew 22 KJV
23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,

24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.

25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:

26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.

27 And last of all the woman died also.

28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
 
What makes you think that we won’t meet our loved ones, based on the verses you posted?

A married couple will no longer be married in heaven (that is why the marriage vows say ‘until death do us part’) but they won’t be estranged. IOW, if you die in a state of grace, and then a year or so later your widow/widower dies in a state of grace, you aren’t going to spend eternity wandering around in different corners of Heaven never seeing each other again. . .you will most certainly be united to Christ and all those in heaven as well, but in a different way. You will remember your marriage, your family, all those things, but you will have a kind of relationship with ALL in heaven which your marriage on earth kind of foreshadows --a union with each other that is more than ‘one flesh’, it is actually ‘one soul’ united with God Himself.
 
The Sadducees were a group in ancient Jerusalem who denied the resurrection of the body, the immortality of the soul, and the existence of an afterlife. They also denied the authority of any OT books not in the Pentateuch (which explains why Jesus drew from Exodus in his response: play to the audience)

They came to Jesus with this question, presumably because they hoped he would affirm their disbelief in the afterlife. I mean if Mosaic Law allowed for a man’s brother to take his widow, then doesn’t that contradict the fact that man and wife become one in marriage? Whose wife would she be in Heaven?!

To their dismay, however, Jesus affirmed the afterlife. He also explained off this apparent contradiction by teaching that marriage won’t exist in Heaven. This, however, does not imply we won’t be with our families. Just that everyone will be more closely united in God than we ever were here on earth.
 
Except for canonized saints, we do not know who is in heaven and who is not. Our #1 task here, on Earth, is to do everything we can to make sure WE get there, and not worry about anyone else.
 
Catholic1954 said:
Except for canonized saints, we do not know who is in heaven and who is not. Our #1 task here, on Earth, is to do everything we can to make sure WE get there, and not worry about anyone else.
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I would think you must worry about others as well as yourself; otherwise, why evangelize?
 
Catholic1954 said:
Except for canonized saints, we do not know who is in heaven and who is not. Our #1 task here, on Earth, is to do everything we can to make sure WE get there, and not worry about anyone else.
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“He is apt not to go to Heaven who is content to go alone.”

–Unknown
 
Tantum_ergo said:
What makes you think that we won’t meet our loved ones, based on the verses you posted?

A married couple will no longer be married in heaven (that is why the marriage vows say ‘until death do us part’) but they won’t be estranged. IOW, if you die in a state of grace, and then a year or so later your widow/widower dies in a state of grace, you aren’t going to spend eternity wandering around in different corners of Heaven never seeing each other again. . .you will most certainly be united to Christ and all those in heaven as well, but in a different way. You will remember your marriage, your family, all those things, but you will have a kind of relationship with ALL in heaven which your marriage on earth kind of foreshadows --a union with each other that is more than ‘one flesh’, it is actually ‘one soul’ united with God Himself.
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How can I be happy in heaven knowing my friends, or even brothers are in hell? I just forget them? Imagine your wife. Me in fact, being in love with a girl right imagine me happy in heaven while she suffers eternaly in hell.

In the case of the verse, if at any time I marry this girl, I do not imagine shearing her in heaven as a part of a bug family, you see she is mine and I am hers, we are one. Inreally cannot comprehend it, pray for me.
 
ShynSup said:
How can I be happy in heaven knowing my friends, or even brothers are in hell? I just forget them? Imagine your wife. Me in fact, being in love with a girl right imagine me happy in heaven while she suffers eternaly in hell.

In the case of the verse, if at any time I marry this girl, I do not imagine shearing her in heaven as a part of a bug family, you see she is mine and I am hers, we are one. Inreally cannot comprehend it, pray for me.
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Beatific visions trumps all.
 
You are being unrealistic if you think your loved ones in hell still love you.
 
tonyrey said:
You are being unrealistic if you think your loved ones in hell still love you.
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While that is probably true, how would you explain Lazarus’ nemesis in Luke 16, who still cared for the wellbeing (post death – in terms of not going into torment with him) of his brothers?

(NB. I am taking the position that he was in Hell not Purgatory, as however rough Purgatory may get, it leads on to Heaven; therefore he had no reason to dread that his brothers might go there.)

ICXC NIKA
 
ShynSup said:
How can I be happy in heaven knowing my friends, or even brothers are in hell? I just forget them? Imagine your wife. Me in fact, being in love with a girl right imagine me happy in heaven while she suffers eternaly in hell.
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There is no worrying in heaven because God gives you perfect happiness. Therefore, if your loved one just so happens to not make it to heaven, you won’t know and won’t worry about it because you’re in perfect happiness.
 
ShynSup said:
How can I be happy in heaven knowing my friends, or even brothers are in hell? I just forget them? Imagine your wife. Me in fact, being in love with a girl right imagine me happy in heaven while she suffers eternaly in hell.

In the case of the verse, if at any time I marry this girl, I do not imagine shearing her in heaven as a part of a bug family, you see she is mine and I am hers, we are one. Inreally cannot comprehend it, pray for me.
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It is their choice to be in hell.
 
GEddie said:
While that is probably true, how would you explain Lazarus’ nemesis in Luke 16, who still cared for the wellbeing (post death – in terms of not going into torment with him) of his brothers?

(NB. I am taking the position that he was in Hell not Purgatory, as however rough Purgatory may get, it leads on to Heaven; therefore he had no reason to dread that his brothers might go there.)

ICXC NIKA
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I have always viewed that as evidence of purgatory, not hell.

There is plenty of reason for him to not want his brothers there. He is suffering. And just like any good brother, he does not want his brothers to go through the same thing.
 
Bballer32 said:
There is no worrying in heaven because God gives you perfect happiness. Therefore, if your loved one just so happens to not make it to heaven, you won’t know and won’t worry about it because you’re in perfect happiness.
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Yea thought so.

Let just put it simple, earthly love means nothing, and you will just forget the people you most love in the afterlife.

Jesus said the biggest love is to give tour life for someone. How many gave their life for a friend that will never get to heaven.

How many have lost their husbands and wives and are hoping to meet them in heaven.

Lets be honest here. If I truly loved God over everything else, I would be praying all day, no caring about my family, my love ones, nothing. I will become a saint, leaving all behind, and living from the providence of God. But you know what, i dont.

Many times I put earthly life and stuff before God, dont you?

Honestly I feel like right now I love this girl more than what I love God.
 
vz71 said:
It is their choice to be in hell.
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That has nothing to do with the matter. I mean, when a friend or a brother or someone you care about gets drunk every night, and then alcoholic, you wont say, “its his choice” and just dont feel bad for him.

The same way if someone is in prison. “Its his choice to be there”
You still pity and suffer for them, you pray for them.

In heaven we will be like angels, how can we not know who is in hell or who is not.

God suffers for his sons, are we suppose to be happy no matter what? While God is in tremendous pain seeing where humanity is going, how many abominations are committed, how many sins and crimes, how much selfishness there is, knowing how many souls will get lost, we are just dancing and jumping of joy. That is selfish. I rather cry with God and the saint and he angels seeing all those souls get lost.
 
ShynSup said:
Yea thought so.

Let just put it simple, earthly love means nothing, and you will just forget the people you most love in the afterlife.
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No, the ones who are there with you, you will know and love BETTER than you do here. Loved ones who end up in Hell is a thornier problem, I admit, but the verse you quoted isn’t about that, or about forgetting people. Just about the specific relationship that is marriage not existing in Heaven.

You probably have stronger FEELINGS for your girlfriend than you typically do toward God, but the feelings part isn’t what Christians primarily mean by “love.” That’s how Jesus can tell us to love our enemies and even those who hurt us. It doesn’t mean we have to force ourselves to have pleasant feelings about them, but we are supposed to turn our wills to their ultimate good (which would be heaven) and treat them as human beings as beloved of God as ourselves.

There are, of course, people who give up earthly marriage to seek a closer relationship with God, but that is not meant to be the universal behavior. Most of us learn about the love of God, and practice loving Him, by loving and being loved by our families.

Usagi
 
Cider said:
Well, it’s about you loving them, not them loving you.
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Your love is unrealistic if they are determined to reject your love. Would you bang your head against a brick wall for all eternity? Heaven is not a realm of fantasy and misery but a kingdom of truth and joy.
 
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