I didn't know where too put this! IS POPE FRANCIS PREPARING TO DECLARE THE ‘VIRGIN’ MARY TO BE 4TH PART OF THE TRINITY?

[guycatholic]

I find the quotes by the pope disturbing. It seems that many people believe that they are the only ones who have the “truth”. The catholic church reminds me of my church in ways. “Marion” theology? Theology is the study of God, not Mary. The SDA church filters everything through Ellen White, COG7DAY Herbert W Armstrong and the list goes on. Then the Catholic Church claims they gave us the Bible and they alone can rightfully interpret it. I think it’s sad.

 

[JamalChristophr]

Exactly which quote(s) do you find disturbing?

This one?

And this is our hope. We are not orphans, we have Mothers: Mother Mary. But the Church is Mother and the Mother Church is anointed when it takes the same path of Jesus and Mary: the path of obedience, the path of suffering, and when she has that attitude of continually learning the path of the Lord. These two women – Mary and the Church – carry on the hope that is Christ, they give us Christ, they bring forth Christ in us. Without Mary, there would be no Jesus Christ; without the Church, we cannot go forward“.

 

[guycatholic]

Exactly which quote(s) do you find disturbing?

This one?

Yeah; I am trusting Christ; some of this stuff sounds a bit cultish to me

 

[JamalChristophr]

For many, the role of Mary as seen by the Catholic Church is difficult to understand, I think, when Catholics express certain things about her. Partly it is because I think a person needs to experience the role of Mary working in their lives, and she does indeed lead us closer to Christ if we allow her to. And it does sort of just sound a bit weird, I’m sure, to non-Catholic ears. But for Catholics, Mary does not get in the way of a relationship with Christ. I would say that 9 times out of 10, if not more than that, the person who practices a devotion to Mary is drawn closer to Christ. This is something a person has to experience, I think.

That is my 2 denarii about that. Hope it provides some small amount of perspective on the matter.

God Bless.

 

[clem456]

Wherever there is such untruth and dissention, one can be assured that the Evil One is fast a work.

If anyone wants to question the Holy Father, one only has to look at how often he is maligned and attacked; draw your own conclusions. It is a wise person who can read the signs.

I am now on my 7th pope, and I have never seen so many attacks, so much untruth, selective quotes to “show” untruth, and outright lies made against the pope.

And never have I seen so many gullible people who should know better. While we need to pray for our Pope, we also need to pray for the faithful, that they may not be separated from him.

Yes.
In “Screwtape Letters” fashion, the insidious evil is not just the wild and false claims about the Pope, but in the resulting dissension caused between believers…Catholics tearing one another to shreds over what amount to political arguments.

 

[rfournier103]

I find the quotes by the pope disturbing.

I can assure you that there is no way that Pope Francis will “declare” this “addition” to the Trinity. As I said in a previous post that I’m sure you read, adding a FOURTH would make it NOT be a TRINITY.

These articles are CLEARLY NOT from Catholic sources, and you clearly swallowed the hook as well as the bait. Mayhaps a little more discernment on the part of readers of these articles would go a long way and save us all some time and effort clearing up gross misunderstandings.

Ask yourself this: Is there ANYONE else out there that is running this story?

I read a story on the internet once that assured me that extra terrestrial mafiosi were hired by the KGB to kill President Kennedy using magic bullets. THAT story is more believable than the story of Francis making Mary part of the Trinity. Consider the source.

It seems that many people believe that they are the only ones who have the “truth”. The catholic church reminds me of my church in ways.

Many claim to have the Truth. Almost all have SOME truth. Only ONE has the WHOLE TRUTH.

“Marion” theology? Theology is the study of God, not Mary. The SDA church filters everything through Ellen White, COG7DAY Herbert W Armstrong and the list goes on. Then the Catholic Church claims they gave us the Bible and they alone can rightfully interpret it. I think it’s sad.

First of all, it’s spelled “Marian”, not “MariOn”. Secondly, your SDA community was founded by four people in Michigan in 1863; whereas the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church was founded in Israel in AD 33 by the King of the Universe. I’m afraid that gives it more than enough right to interpret Sacred Scripture.

Do you mean to tell me that anyone and everyone can interpret Scripture however they please? Is that why all the Protestants agree on everything (like which day is actually the Sabbath)? Do the SDAs have the bishops and priests that are spoken of in the Bible? The Catholic Church does.

You say that you think it’s sad that the Catholic Church claims to have given us the Bible and is alone in having the authority to interpret it. You are entitled to your beliefs; but I think it’s sad that you actually believed that Pope Francis would make Mary a part of the Trinity (when he clearly can’t).

Yeah; I am trusting Christ; some of this stuff sounds a bit cultish to me

I think you need to educate yourself a little more about the Catholic Church and what we really believe before you scurry off to your keyboard and start talking about “cultish” Catholic beliefs.

I shall pray for your enlightenment.

Good day, sir.

 

[JackVk]

I find the quotes by the pope disturbing. It seems that many people believe that they are the only ones who have the “truth”. The catholic church reminds me of my church in ways. “Marion” theology? Theology is the study of God, not Mary. The SDA church filters everything through Ellen White, COG7DAY Herbert W Armstrong and the list goes on. Then the Catholic Church claims they gave us the Bible and they alone can rightfully interpret it. I think it’s sad.

The SDA and Ellen Gould White also claims that “Vicarius Filii Dei” is a papal title, and that it translates to “666” in Roman numerals. However, that isn’t a papal title, and even if it were, Ellen Gould White’s name also comes out as “666” in Roman numerals.

And I have skimmed through White’s book (was it called “the great assault”? I forget). But what I saw was rife with straw men and half-truths about Catholicism.

 

[WilT]

IS POPE FRANCIS PREPARING TO DECLARE THE ‘VIRGIN’ MARY TO BE 4TH PART OF THE TRINITY?
It obviously wouldn’t be the trinity anymore because of tri=3 but if this is true Catholicism is wrong… I’m so confused!
Here are the sources:
nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=24994

beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2014/09/is-pope-francis-preparing-to-declare-the-virgin-mary-to-be-4th-part-of-the-trinity-2460708.html

I believe one of your links is a blog which Catholic Answers doesn’t want on their site. Blogs may not be accurate but just opinion based. It’s also inaccurate, one sided and clearly anti-Catholic rhetoric. If your a good Catholic you will discontinue reading nonsense such as these you listed.

 

[Nelka]

:bible1:

 

[Brandall]

I believe one of your links is a blog which Catholic Answers doesn’t want on their site. Blogs may not be accurate but just opinion based. It’s also inaccurate, one sided and clearly anti-Catholic rhetoric. If your a good Catholic you will discontinue reading nonsense such as these you listed.

He’s not a Catholic. That’s why his religion is listed as Religion: Baptist but wants to be a Catholic. He is interested in the Church and trying to find out about it.