I do not understand the Catholic Economy of Salvation and Ecumenism

[rwoehmke]

And you having told him about some of the teachings of Catholicism, Catholicism becomes necessary for him. He is no longer ignorant. He is bound to give it serious investigation, and if having done so he rejects it then it’s most likely out of wilful hardness of heart or other factors rather than ignorance, and he most likely won’t be saved.

“Ignorance” goes beyond just never having been told or hearing of Jesus Christ and his Church. The obligation to become Catholic only becomes operative when one is convinced of this truth and still refuses to join. Else almost any non-Catholic would not stand a chance of salvation because probably 99 percent plus of these Christian know of Jesus and the Catholic Church. It is the obtuse who are in absolute danger.

 

[Our_Refuge]

=Trishie;3759110]Dear Friend,
When people genuinely believe in God and live according to the basic gospel values of love for God and others, even if they only express it in genuine love and care of others, they are living in God’s love. Of course they are saved, by the action of Jesus, which is for all humankind whether that is understood or not

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This sounds like you believe that someone can be saved by faith alone. That is a false doctrine.

Catholics do not believe they are the only ones to be saved. **Other Christian churches are part of the Body of Christ…**and Vatican Two papers verify that.

Christian Churches are not part of the Mystical Body of Christ. The Catholic Church **is **the Mystical Body of Christ.

The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christby Fr. William G. Most

Speaking of full membership in the Church, Pius XII, in his Encyclical on the Mystical Body, said it is the society of those who have been baptized, and who profess the faith of Christ, and who are governed by their bishops under the visible head, the Pope, the Bishop of Rome.
ewtn.com/faith/Teachings/chura1.htm

 

[Genesis315]

The Catholic Church is the one true Church–and apart from the Body, one withers and dies. But, it is our Baptism that unites us to the Church and our unity is maintained by faith. Thus, we break unity by apostacy, schism, or heresy–but we must be guilty of it. Some Baptize person who is in good faith, while not being explicitly Catholic, may be united to the Body and draw life from it. They are not part of the full, visible unity of the Body, but are united at least in some way. This has been said in many different ways (before and after the Second Vatican Council) including being united to the soul of the Church or being in partial communion.

The point is, anyone who is saved draws their salvation from the Body of Christ which is the Catholic Church. And they do so from the points of unity they have with her–because those elements belong to the Catholic Church alone. Such a person therefore is not drawing salvation from a false denomination, but from the Catholic Church (ie, the Body of Christ which receives salvation from its Head, Jesus).

Likewise, an unbaptized person who is in good faith (that is, they desire to surrender themselves to the will and wisdom/Logos of God) but lack it, are also united to the Church by their faith and draw life from her as well.

Evangelization is key both in Catholic places and amongst non-Catholics because we need to persuade people to earnestly seek the will of God and to follow that will rather than following idols, atheism, their own desires, or from simply being apathetic. Only those who choose to abide in the true love of God can be saved (the Church is that visible communion of love).

 

[Genesis315]

Vatican II did not teach that other communities were part of the Church. The CDF has said on multiple occasions that there is not multiple subsistences or subsistence outside the Catholic Church. What is said is that the Church may be “operative” in those other communities–but this is not the same as subsistence. The word subsist was chosen because it acknowledges that while elements belonging to the Church exist outside her visible boundaries, the Church of Christ as her founder intended will always and only be present as the Catholic Church (it’s a perduring reality).

Likewise, other decrees promulgated the same day as Lumen Gentium (such as that on the Eastern Churches) clearly state that the Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ.

The other communites are a means of salvation only inasmuch as they contain elements of the true Church that belong to the Catholic Church and impel towards Catholic unity. They are not salvific in and of themselves. And again, of course they are only salvific for those in good faith.

In regards to mortal sin, unless the individual has perfect contrition–that is, contrition for love of God alone (love covers a multitude of sins)–sacramental absolution is necessary.

 

[PrayforMallory]

Vatican II did not teach that other communities were part of the Church. The CDF has said on multiple occasions that there is not multiple subsistences or subsistence outside the Catholic Church. What is said is that the Church may be “operative” in those other communities–but this is not the same as subsistence. The word subsist was chosen because it acknowledges that while elements belonging to the Church exist outside her visible boundaries, the Church of Christ as her founder intended will always and only be present as the Catholic Church (it’s a perduring reality).

Likewise, other decrees promulgated the same day as Lumen Gentium (such as that on the Eastern Churches) clearly state that the Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ.

The other communites are a means of salvation only inasmuch as they contain elements of the true Church that belong to the Catholic Church and impel towards Catholic unity. They are not salvific in and of themselves. And again, of course they are only salvific for those in good faith.

In regards to mortal sin, unless the individual has perfect contrition–that is, contrition for love of God alone (love covers a multitude of sins)–sacramental absolution is necessary.

Why isn’t this said in RCIA?