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I have been catholic all my life and almost allways went to church. But in my teens and 20’s I did alot of searching and questioning.

I started hanging out with many pagan,atheists,and same sex attracted people. Since I came back to my faith, I have had to let all my friends know I could not be with them any longer, because they lived a wrong lifestyle. They don’t understand.

I tried to join christian singles, theology on tap, our local young adult group, I just don’t seem to fit in. I don’t know how to talk to people. I normaly just stay home. I am very lonely. I hide behind my work.

how can I find christian friends?:confused: 😦
 
I hear you brother. I am going through the exact same thing, but I haven’t fully served my ties with some of my former friends. I keep telling myself that I can enjoy their company, but I find myself falling into my former bad habits and its having HUGE negative affects on my life (prayers, please!). At the same time, I’ve had a very positive affect on some of my more worldly friends. It’s a tough situation to handle.

I’m forcing myself to spend more and more time with other young Christians. I find that the more time you spend, the more Christian fellowship grows on you. In fact, I found myself picking up sorts of lovely traits (praying before meals, meatless fridays, things I should be doing on my own). I also found that the wider your experience the better, always be seeking new groups, you’ll realize which settings best apply to you.

A young traditionalist priest whom I had met in Rome said it best when he told me that true friendship is based on common goals, and what greater goal is their then heaven?

Keep fighting and praying.
I look forward to other advice.
 
I have been catholic all my life and almost allways went to church. But in my teens and 20’s I did alot of searching and questioning.

I started hanging out with many pagan,atheists,and same sex attracted people. Since I came back to my faith, I have had to let all my friends know I could not be with them any longer, because they lived a wrong lifestyle. They don’t understand.

I tried to join christian singles, theology on tap, our local young adult group, I just don’t seem to fit in. I don’t know how to talk to people. I normaly just stay home. I am very lonely. I hide behind my work.

how can I find christian friends?:confused: 😦
Your story is very familiar.

Continue your friendship with God and He will supply you with the friends you need. Have faith and Trust in God.

Everyone is lonely to some degree or another. That’s a normal feeling, and ultimately Christ is the only one who will be able to stand with us in the end. Our Lord was very lonely in the Garden of Gethsemane, even HE needed an Angel to comfort Him. Pray to The Angel of the Consolation" for help. If you pray with confidence, you’ll get it.

Remember St. Augustine, “We were made for you Oh Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee.”

That will enable you to “let go” of the loneliness.

Listen to people. You say you don’t know how to talk to them. Let them talk. Ask questions, learn from them. Watch how people you admire interact with others. Adjust it to your own personality and you’ll be great at communication.

Give to others, your time, your talent and do it all for the Glory of God. Take some of that energy that you hide behind work with and…
  1. Go to Church spend a few minutes with Our Lord.
  2. Go to the local Hospital, visit the newborns through the window and the elderly and everyone in between. Put them all on your prayer list.
  3. Look for opportunities to do anonymous good deeds, straighten out the carts in the supermarket parking lot.
  4. Exercise, walk, run, swim
  5. Read something positive G.K. Chesterton is like reading letters from a friend who just happens to have lived 100 years ago. Also download mp3s of good priests like Bishop Sheen giving lectures and sermons, they will keep you going in the right direction.
  6. The Rosary, Our Lady is also a special friend, who can introduce you around.
  7. Listen to positive music that will lift you up, not feed the bad moods and loneliness.
  8. Develop a relationship with your Guardian Angel and St. Michael and all the nine Choirs. (the Chaplet of St. Michael is wonderful for doing that.)
  9. Make some small sacrifices to God and ask Him for grace and light.
When you start with developing those relationships with those beings who are closer to us than any and yet don’t appear in bodies to us, you are preparing the way for human relationships to come into your life. When you are walking in light, people who are also walking in light will find you.

And consequently, Our Lord, Our Lady and the Angels and Saints will protect you from and strengthen you to handle the bad influences both, demonic and human that have insinuated themselves into your life up til now. The loneliness and unsettled feelings you have may be an opportunity they are taking to attack you and make you despair. Don’t let them. Darkness attracts darkness.
 
The first step to getting help is … go to CONFESSION. It may sound scary, but this Sacrament will start sending you GOD’s Grace to get you through of this part of your life that you’re in. Do Not be afraid. Trust in JESUS. You will experience pain, then freedom, then the warmth of GOD’s love for you. Don’t waste anymore time, JUST DO IT!! It will save you. The MOST beautiful and loving gift that JESUS left us is HIMSELF in the HOLY EUCHARIST! It’s the closet we get to HIM while we’re here on earth. Many of us will pray for you and others, who need Spirtual strength as you do. You know, when two or more pray there JESUS is among them. Find a prayer partner. I have not met you, but I love you. Right now after reading this say a Hail Mary. You’ll feel better right away.
 
I have been catholic all my life and almost allways went to church. But in my teens and 20’s I did alot of searching and questioning.

I started hanging out with many pagan,atheists,and same sex attracted people. Since I came back to my faith, I have had to let all my friends know I could not be with them any longer, because they lived a wrong lifestyle. They don’t understand.

I tried to join christian singles, theology on tap, our local young adult group, I just don’t seem to fit in. I don’t know how to talk to people. I normaly just stay home. I am very lonely. I hide behind my work.

how can I find christian friends?:confused: 😦
I know the feeling. I’m very much ‘cut off’ from the World of Man myself, due to my commitment to Jesus. My reprieve is my job – teaching. I get a ‘full-on’ human experince all day, such that I don’t need any other. The problem concerns the summers. I get a bit depressed from the lack of contact. Hang in there. With Christ in our lives, we’re never alone.👍
 
I have been catholic all my life and almost allways went to church. But in my teens and 20’s I did alot of searching and questioning.

I started hanging out with many pagan,atheists,and same sex attracted people. Since I came back to my faith, I have had to let all my friends know I could not be with them any longer, because they lived a wrong lifestyle. They don’t understand.

I tried to join christian singles, theology on tap, our local young adult group, I just don’t seem to fit in. I don’t know how to talk to people. I normaly just stay home. I am very lonely. I hide behind my work.

how can I find christian friends?:confused: 😦
I’m kind of the same way, although I can’t identify with the same sex attraction. I just prefer to be alone, and I don’t get along with people very well. I’m happily married and I communicate just fine with my husband, but other than him, I really don’t have any friends. And that’s OK with me.

I think it’s a family thing, the way our family is. We just keep to ourselves a great deal of the time.

I don’t know if this suggestion will help you or not, but it helps me. I write novels.

I love the sport of figure skating, especially the discipline of synchronized skating, and I actually do enjoy hanging out with skating people (moms and skaters, coaches, other fans, etc.)

So I wrote novels about synchronized skating. It really helps me to have this imaginary world where I can make people say,do, and think what I want them to say, do, and think. I’ve published two of the novels–they mainly have appeal to skaters and their families.

I also write novels and screenplays about other topics, although skating seems to find its way into a lot of these stories. Many of my efforts fizzle after several chapters or scenes, but I just keep starting over again.

I enjoy it. Maybe it’ll work for you, too.

One other suggestion I would make is to attend artistic events and get involved with these people. Theater, music, and visual arts–the people that are involved with these are often a little lonely and very empathetic with others who are also lonely. You don’t have to be an artist yourself; you can volunteer to be an usher for your local community theater, or there are other volunteer jobs that you can help with.

Finally, there is a probably a place in your city where the functioning mentally-ill live. I have a friend who lives in one of these places. She has an apartment with another woman, and all the residents in the building have a Site Manager who is there 24 hours a day to help the residents. They get their meds from a medical person, and have their activities organized by a staff person.

I visit my friend once a week and take her out to dinner. She is paranoid schizophrenic and clinically depressed and has been since we first met back when we were in college.

I usually sit around on the deck with her after dinner and chat while she enjoys a smoke. Lots of the other residents sit out there, too, and they love seeing people from the community, as they call it. They say hi and ask me how my foot is (I had surgery last year) and they’re often a whole lot nicer than some of the “normal” people.

If you can handle it, I would suggest getting involved with the people in the residence in your city. You should talk to the organization that runs the residence and make sure that they know and you know what you’re doing.

These people are so lonely. No one comes to see them. Their relatives would often rather forget that they are still alive, although some relatives show up a few times a year. Girl Scout troops don’t come to sing Christmas carols for these people.

My friend told me once that the major joy of their lives is smoking.

Every week she tells me that she is glad that I came and that she had a lot of fun. Some weeks when her meds aren’t right, she is rather “strange.” (Rambles in the conversation, isn’t sure what year it is and how old she is, afraid that everyone is out to get her, etc.). But when her meds are OK, she is very sweet.

If you could befriend someone in one of these residences, maybe take them to McDonalds or bring in a pizza, they would be so thrilled. And it would help you, too, although I will say that at times, it makes me sad.

One more thing–just a heads up. Our hospital will NOT allow anyone who is not immediate family, to visit the nursery, even to stand outside the window. The floor has limited access and a guard. Even other hospital staff members can’t go to Nursery or Pediatrics without clearance.

I think a lot of hospitals do this for the safety and privacy of the babies and their mommies.

Best wishes to you. I truly identify. You are not alone.
 
It may surprise you how many people are lonely. Even those who are surrounded by family and friends. Each one of us is a unique a special person and in reality no one is ever truly understood.

Would you want to be or would I want to be such a superficial person that those around us would find it easy is to understand who and what we are?

Continue to seek a closer union with Christ. Each one of us stands alone before of God. He sees and understands each person into the depths of their soul.
 
It may surprise you how many people are lonely. Even those who are surrounded by family and friends. Each one of us is a unique a special person and in reality no one is ever truly understood.

Would you want to be or would I want to be such a superficial person that those around us would find it easy is to understand who and what we are?

Continue to seek a closer union with Christ. Each one of us stands alone before of God. He sees and understands each person into the depths of their soul.
👍
 
Your story is very familiar.

Continue your friendship with God and He will supply you with the friends you need. Have faith and Trust in God.

Everyone is lonely to some degree or another. That’s a normal feeling, and ultimately Christ is the only one who will be able to stand with us in the end. Our Lord was very lonely in the Garden of Gethsemane, even HE needed an Angel to comfort Him. Pray to The Angel of the Consolation" for help. If you pray with confidence, you’ll get it.

Remember St. Augustine, “We were made for you Oh Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee.”

That will enable you to “let go” of the loneliness.

Listen to people. You say you don’t know how to talk to them. Let them talk. Ask questions, learn from them. Watch how people you admire interact with others. Adjust it to your own personality and you’ll be great at communication.

Give to others, your time, your talent and do it all for the Glory of God. Take some of that energy that you hide behind work with and…
  1. Go to Church spend a few minutes with Our Lord.
  2. Go to the local Hospital, visit the newborns through the window and the elderly and everyone in between. Put them all on your prayer list.
  3. Look for opportunities to do anonymous good deeds, straighten out the carts in the supermarket parking lot.
  4. Exercise, walk, run, swim
  5. Read something positive G.K. Chesterton is like reading letters from a friend who just happens to have lived 100 years ago. Also download mp3s of good priests like Bishop Sheen giving lectures and sermons, they will keep you going in the right direction.
  6. The Rosary, Our Lady is also a special friend, who can introduce you around.
  7. Listen to positive music that will lift you up, not feed the bad moods and loneliness.
  8. Develop a relationship with your Guardian Angel and St. Michael and all the nine Choirs. (the Chaplet of St. Michael is wonderful for doing that.)
  9. Make some small sacrifices to God and ask Him for grace and light.
When you start with developing those relationships with those beings who are closer to us than any and yet don’t appear in bodies to us, you are preparing the way for human relationships to come into your life. When you are walking in light, people who are also walking in light will find you.

And consequently, Our Lord, Our Lady and the Angels and Saints will protect you from and strengthen you to handle the bad influences both, demonic and human that have insinuated themselves into your life up til now. The loneliness and unsettled feelings you have may be an opportunity they are taking to attack you and make you despair. Don’t let them. Darkness attracts darkness.
Excellent suggestions- especially Chesterton and Bishop Sheen! 👍
 
I tried to join christian singles, theology on tap, our local young adult group, I just don’t seem to fit in. I don’t know how to talk to people. I normaly just stay home. I am very lonely. I hide behind my work.

how can I find christian friends?:confused: 😦
Are you shy or self-conscious about something? Prayer really helps if so. Just pour your heart out to God in your own words. No need to use printed material. If it comes from the heart, that is what God likes. Just say what is on your heart and ask for help. Of course, you should be in a quiet place without distraction. Pour out your heart before Him and then just sit in silence and listen. God’s love can often be found in that quiet place. Do this everyday to find peace of mind, heart and soul. This is good therapy for a host of similar problems. I know it sounds all touchy-feely but it works, just ask the mystic saints.
 
All good suggestions. Think I might try some of them.

For me right now, though, I try to find or communicate with someone who’s in worse position (financially, physically, or whatever). Let’s me take the focus off myself. My dad required monthly visits to his eye doctor last year. Even though I had to sit in the waiting room for 3-5 hours each time (and had to sacrifice time at work) it was nevertheless worth it.

And then there always is prayer. Or even a visit to Church even if there isn’t Mass going on.

Or if you feel more secular, a visit to the library or a local bookstore can be fun.
 
Dear Toni2008,

I feel very much like you though I am probably twice your age and was graced enough to have been raised by a mother so steeped in the faith.

What has helped is knowing that you are on a firm foundation and the prayer that has sustained me is St Teresa’s poem which I write here now though you may probably know it already.

Let nothing disturb you
Let nothing frighten you
All things are passing
God alone never changes
Patient endurance attains all things
Whoever has God wants for nothing
GOD ALONE SUFFICES.

Cling to Him and in time He will send you the friends that will support you in your pilgrimage here on earth.

Hey, there’s heaps here at CAF.

You might also try Catholic Match. They recently launched a Catholic style Facebook.

Peace!
 
As Robert DeNiro said, in “Taxi Driver”, “I feel like I’m God’s lonely man.”👍
 
how can I find christian friends?:confused: 😦
You might have already been doing it, but I would say again that you should always pray for good friends who could help you and each other grow in faith. While praying, be opened to the Holy Spirit’s inspiration. He could call you to join different ministries at your parish. Through such ministries, you will find good friends - but be patient about it; it takes time for many of us to be opened up and make friends.

When I came down to Texas 3 years ago from another state, I had no friend except my girlfriend. Now, after joining the Legion of Mary for 2 years and other ministries such as the Nursing Home ministry, I made good friends with few guys and girls around my age and even a lot older. The best thing is that we all are trying to encourage and pray for each other to be good Catholics.

I know the benefit and I am trying to reach out some young people at my parish and want to be their friends. I have made 1 more friend this month and he and I are buddies going to workout at a gym together. 🙂
 
Fake it till you make it.

I lived like this until I married a Protestant girl. I was 28 when I married and nearly married her over night because she’s a jewel. After 17 years she converted to Catholicism because of our discovery of the ancient church fathers and our miserable existence in a fundamentalist church she grew up in as the daughter of a bishop/elder. He was a pastor, not to be confused with a preacher.

Trick is find the Liturgy of the Hours and begin a life of prayer. That may be what God is calling you to. If it’s not it will make a saint out of you…and that is how you grow close to God. Study scripture and recite the rosary. God may be calling you into a life of purity…clensing if you will. Clensing you thatis preparing you for the next steps of your life. Embrace it. God loves you.

Pax.
 
I have been catholic all my life and almost allways went to church. But in my teens and 20’s I did alot of searching and questioning.

I started hanging out with many pagan,atheists,and same sex attracted people. Since I came back to my faith, I have had to let all my friends know I could not be with them any longer, because they lived a wrong lifestyle. They don’t understand.

I tried to join christian singles, theology on tap, our local young adult group, I just don’t seem to fit in. I don’t know how to talk to people. I normaly just stay home. I am very lonely. I hide behind my work.

how can I find christian friends?:confused: 😦
E-mail me. I’m just like you, only lately I have been much more comfortable around other Catholics. I’m still very crude at times, but most people that know me also know that I am trying very hard.

God bless you!

-Jon
 
I have been catholic all my life and almost allways went to church. But in my teens and 20’s I did alot of searching and questioning.

I started hanging out with many pagan,atheists,and same sex attracted people. Since I came back to my faith, I have had to let all my friends know I could not be with them any longer, because they lived a wrong lifestyle. They don’t understand.

I tried to join christian singles, theology on tap, our local young adult group, I just don’t seem to fit in. I don’t know how to talk to people. I normaly just stay home. I am very lonely. I hide behind my work.

how can I find christian friends?:confused: 😦
I swore off these forums awhile ago but I couldn’t sleep and happened to come across your post and it sounds like I may be able to help. I offer this advise in the most humble way I can, and only because I experienced exactly what you are experiencing several years ago. My situation has changed greatly. This is advise that worked for me. 🙂

1st piece of advise: turn off the computer with regularity. Limit yourself to only a little bit of time each day (maybe even 30 minutes). Talk to people. Friendships made online are less than fulfilling.

2nd piece of advise: go to Church, even daily if you can. DON’T PARISH HOP. (I am not yelling here… just capping for emphasis… Whenever I cap in this post I am not yelling, just emphasizing) This is very important: Find ONE parish close to home that is not hostile to Catholic tradition. There are some, and they are growing in number. Then BE there. This is your HOME. It is YOUR place. Don’t let ANYONE take your place from you. Close to home is important. It is a CRIMINAL act of VIOLENCE that inspired some of our “shepherds” to send those who love tradition off to ghettos hours away from their houses. The Catholic parish is the center of a community that is, in part, geographic. How do we build Catholic community with people when they live 3 - 5 hours away? Friends CONNECT with each other regularly, and online or phone calls are poor substitutes for the real thing. As an aside I would point out that Catholicism is NOT evangelical protestantism. Its “WE and Jesus”… NOT “ME AND JESUS.”

3rd piece of advise: This is probably the most important advise: Join a CIVIC organization. I read the most important book of my life before coming fully Catholic, and it enabled me to take the necessary steps. The feeling of isolation you feel is typical of our generation, because we are artificially disconnected from each other. This, along with the way we have been raised, leads to both isolation and narcissism. Check out “Bowling Alone” by Dr. Putnam of Harvard University. Great stuff.

If you are a man, you should join the KofC at your parish forthwith. (Make SURE it is a parish that isn’t hostile to tradition!) If you are a woman look for a woman’s group such as a Bible study, or woman’s version of something like the KofC. FORGET THE MIXED GENDER STUFF. Meeting a mate comes later. First, become a part of the community. Being with fellow men (or women) away from the distractions of pressures of courtship is absolutely ESSENTIAL if you want to be able to make friends away from the pressure cooker. It is the BEST way to fit in.

4th piece of advise: kill those “I don’t fit in” feelings with counter arguments. The Catholic Church is the Church Christ founded for YOU. By virtue of your Baptism you are a priest, a prophet, and a KING. If you “belong” anywhere, it is THERE. (as an aside, notice I didn’t say “here.” These forums are NOT a Church community :rolleyes: )

Read the council of Trent.

I summarize here: as a member of the laity, you are part of the priesthood of all believers. Priests represent Christ’s sacrifice on Calvary for us so that we can have the Eucharist, the source and summit of our faith. We can’t do this, because ordination is a Sacrament that changes the man. HOWEVER, because we are part of the priesthood of all believers, WE OFFER OUR SACRIFICES ON THE ALTAR OF OUR HEARTS, by our daily struggles with temptation, and with our good works. Offer up this feeling of isolation on the altar of your heart as a worthy sacrifice for our Blessed Lord. That is our way of “saying Mass.” It is a way that is intimately connected with the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass itself.

One of the very sad side effects of VII is that because priests always feel threatened by poorly catechized and liberal Catholics, they rarely preach on our Christian identity anymore. It gets lost. One of the great ironies of VII.

Looking back over this post I really think the 3rd piece of advise is most important.

And really… turn off the computer. This is a fake world. People on line don’t speak to each other as people, but as stereotypes of people. We can’t hear inflection, we are not confronted with a person and their feelings. Nothing is more unChristian than the sort of stuff that most often happens on these sorts of forums.

I hope this post helps. I am saying a prayer for you, then I am going to take my own advise and shut off this machine.

God Bless.🙂
 
toni, thanks for posting this. You’re saying what I’ve been feeling for a long time. The advice in this forum has been great. I’ve been praying more and reminding myself that loneliness is a part of the human condition. The loneliness is, ultimately, a result of sin and the distance it creates between us and God, the Divine.

I also try to remind myself to be patient. God will see to my needs when the time is right. I do my best to be a good teacher, a good daughter, and a good friend to my non-Christian friends while I pray to meet other believers who will be friends with me on this walk of faith.

God bless!🙂
 
There have been some great posts here. The thing is, you mentioned feelings. They are somewhat fleeting. Meaning they are not permanent. I took experienced them and finally settled down. Not all parishes are alike, not all are great places for someone struggling. Your search is normal and you’ll know when you found home.

Take solace that you are not alone. The Lord is always with you.

When I found my home, I just took it easy and let myself take in the surroundings. Slowly I met people and got involved. From their the seeds of friendship flourished. Many of them are like family now. But there is such great need, and I know our parish is not alone. They need people to help.

I agree with that poster that said to turn off the computer. But really, I think learning to control it is better. Not all people are fake, I am not into absolutes. I work in technology, and even though there are drawbacks, you are in control or need to be. Take whatever you get with a grain of salt.

I’ll keep you in my prayers.

👍
 
I swore off these forums awhile ago but I couldn’t sleep and happened to come across your post and it sounds like I may be able to help. I offer this advise in the most humble way I can, and only because I experienced exactly what you are experiencing several years ago. My situation has changed greatly. This is advise that worked for me. 🙂

1st piece of advise: turn off the computer with regularity. Limit yourself to only a little bit of time each day (maybe even 30 minutes). Talk to people. Friendships made online are less than fulfilling.

2nd piece of advise: go to Church, even daily if you can. DON’T PARISH HOP. (I am not yelling here… just capping for emphasis… Whenever I cap in this post I am not yelling, just emphasizing) This is very important: Find ONE parish close to home that is not hostile to Catholic tradition. There are some, and they are growing in number. Then BE there. This is your HOME. It is YOUR place. Don’t let ANYONE take your place from you. Close to home is important. It is a CRIMINAL act of VIOLENCE that inspired some of our “shepherds” to send those who love tradition off to ghettos hours away from their houses. The Catholic parish is the center of a community that is, in part, geographic. How do we build Catholic community with people when they live 3 - 5 hours away? Friends CONNECT with each other regularly, and online or phone calls are poor substitutes for the real thing. As an aside I would point out that Catholicism is NOT evangelical protestantism. Its “WE and Jesus”… NOT “ME AND JESUS.”

3rd piece of advise: This is probably the most important advise: Join a CIVIC organization. I read the most important book of my life before coming fully Catholic, and it enabled me to take the necessary steps. The feeling of isolation you feel is typical of our generation, because we are artificially disconnected from each other. This, along with the way we have been raised, leads to both isolation and narcissism. Check out “Bowling Alone” by Dr. Putnam of Harvard University. Great stuff.

If you are a man, you should join the KofC at your parish forthwith. (Make SURE it is a parish that isn’t hostile to tradition!) If you are a woman look for a woman’s group such as a Bible study, or woman’s version of something like the KofC. FORGET THE MIXED GENDER STUFF. Meeting a mate comes later. First, become a part of the community. Being with fellow men (or women) away from the distractions of pressures of courtship is absolutely ESSENTIAL if you want to be able to make friends away from the pressure cooker. It is the BEST way to fit in.

4th piece of advise: kill those “I don’t fit in” feelings with counter arguments. The Catholic Church is the Church Christ founded for YOU. By virtue of your Baptism you are a priest, a prophet, and a KING. If you “belong” anywhere, it is THERE. (as an aside, notice I didn’t say “here.” These forums are NOT a Church community :rolleyes: )

Read the council of Trent.

I summarize here: as a member of the laity, you are part of the priesthood of all believers. Priests represent Christ’s sacrifice on Calvary for us so that we can have the Eucharist, the source and summit of our faith. We can’t do this, because ordination is a Sacrament that changes the man. HOWEVER, because we are part of the priesthood of all believers, WE OFFER OUR SACRIFICES ON THE ALTAR OF OUR HEARTS, by our daily struggles with temptation, and with our good works. Offer up this feeling of isolation on the altar of your heart as a worthy sacrifice for our Blessed Lord. That is our way of “saying Mass.” It is a way that is intimately connected with the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass itself.

One of the very sad side effects of VII is that because priests always feel threatened by poorly catechized and liberal Catholics, they rarely preach on our Christian identity anymore. It gets lost. One of the great ironies of VII.

Looking back over this post I really think the 3rd piece of advise is most important.

And really… turn off the computer. This is a fake world. People on line don’t speak to each other as people, but as stereotypes of people. We can’t hear inflection, we are not confronted with a person and their feelings. Nothing is more unChristian than the sort of stuff that most often happens on these sorts of forums.

I hope this post helps. I am saying a prayer for you, then I am going to take my own advise and shut off this machine.

God Bless.🙂
Easy in the saddle, Podna. Easy. Slow that paint-pony down a good bit. 😃
 
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