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I’m not trying to sound rude or be mean or anything but if outside the Catholic church are religions that believe in Jesus Christ, why the heck do they teach DIFFERENT STUFF?!?!:confused:

I’m just curious!
 
Paris Blues:
I’m not trying to sound rude or be mean or anything but if outside the Catholic church are religions that believe in Jesus Christ, why the heck do they teach DIFFERENT STUFF?!?!:confused:

I’m just curious!
Paris,

Believe me, there are many of us within the Catholic Church - even we ‘cradle Catholics’ - whom have very little TRUE understanding of why tens of thousands (and, as you posted your message in the LDS sub-forum, some 200 ‘flavors’ of Mormonism) have such a wide-ranging difference of beliefs yet many (but not all) believe in some sort of Jesus (although not all necessarily as “Christ the Messiah”).

The wonderful thing about the Catholic Church is that we have true, unchanging beliefs handed down to us through Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. While the ‘style’ of the Church has changed during the past two millennia, the beliefs have not: and as you go forward in RCIA I hope that you will encounter the joy that is accompanied by the fact that you are entering into the one true and unchanging Church established by Christ - it is a joy to ponder and reading everything from the Church Fathers to the encyclicals of the late John Paul II will bring even greater joy when you see the continuity of beliefs.

Peace, and joy!
 
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Paris Blues:
I’m not trying to sound rude or be mean or anything but if outside the Catholic church are religions that believe in Jesus Christ, why the heck do they teach DIFFERENT STUFF?!?!:confused:

I’m just curious!
because we belive that through time your church has gone astray.2 peter 2:1-3, acts 20:29-30, matt15:7-9 ect 😃
 
2 peter 2:1-3, acts 20:29-30, matt15:7-9

How can these selected scriptures show us about a great apostasy? About Jesus failing in His work for us. When each one of us, Catholic Christians have sin? We know who we are, we pray for the false teachers, those that fail the Church, that which is Christ. We pray for each other because we all need prayer.

But what they have is what we have in Christ, the Sacrament of forgiveness and reconciliation, Christ himself. The versus you have given are only references to apostasies that will occur throughout Church history. One would be when most of Jesus’ disciples left him because when he spoke of the Eucharist to be given they would not believe. (John all of Chapter six including the miracles. Full context) And then we have the reformation, another falling away. We have Joan of Ark being burnt at the stake because of a jealous Bishop. Judas was an Apostle and he had Christ turned in to be crucified. Even our own Pope, Peter denied him three times. Do you not know that the Church in Christ is a hospital for the sinner? We have good and evil in our Church as well as on the outside. We each have this dilemma. This is why we go to Church, why we cling to Christ. By manipulating a few Scriptures you are not doing Christ’s work. In truth the Scriptures do not speak of an Apostasy away from Apostolic Authority. This is impossible as Christ has given His most Holy Spirit to Guide His Bride.

Here are some Scriptures that one can study and pray about

Mt 7:24-27; Mt 16:13-18; Mt 18:15-18; Mt: 28:20; 1Tim 3:15;

http://scripturecatholic.com/
 
Paul, This might help as well:

Our Lords Interest
….Father Raoul Plus, S.J. (1882-1958)
Adopted sons and daughters
"This is the campaign that is most urgently needed: to help each and every one to Realize fully, perhaps for the first time, the divine dignity that Baptism confers by engrafting us upon Christ Himself "

Our Lord did not come for the sake of those who are well, but for those who are in need. The soul that is lost interest Him far more than the ninety-nine that are just; the venturesome lamb that has fallen into the pit, far more that the flock that has returned dutifully home; the coin that has rolled behind the furniture, far more than the fortune of the cash-box.

His interest is in the prodigals: Mary Magdalene, the women taken in adultery, Zacchaeus the publican, Simon the Pharisee, Barabbas, and His companions on the cross. The preferences of all Christians should be of the same kind. But what integrity this demands, what moral beauty, what sanctity! Some, perhaps, may be tempted to escape the corrosive or weakening effect of such surroundings by avoiding to much contact with the masses, by seeking only the company of their friends, of those who think like them and to whom they feel more readily attracted. It is so much more pleasant to consort with those who are like you, and with whom you have ideals and interest in common.

Such a method is disastrous. If the leaven is to act upon the mass, it must be mingled with it. If it is separate from the mass, it forgets its proper task. It is a leading axiom in Catholic action not to remove good elements from the surroundings in which they exist, but rather to sanctify them so that they may serve to elevate and improve their fellows. In order to act effectively upon one’s surroundings, one must live in those surroundings; and, given the necessary virtue and power of action, the closer the contact, the greater the influence will be.

It is not literally true that is has been said of us: “You are gods,” and that we are to become “sons of God”? Let us give to these expressions their full Christian meaning. First and foremost, the baptized must learn to appreciate the incomparable privileges they have received by the sacrament which, in making them Christians, has brought the Blessed Trinity to dwell in their souls, and given them power to live the divine life, if only they will, and so long as they will. Let us lift up our heads and bear proudly the proud dignity of our Baptism.

How few of the baptized appreciate the essence of all revelations: that God dwells in the man who is in the state of grace? This is the campaign that is most urgently needed: to help each and every one to Realize fully, perhaps for the first time, the divine dignity that Baptism confers by engrafting us upon Christ Himself making us a living member of the Mystical Body of Christ, which is the Church, communicating to us the very life of the Blessed Trinity, making us partners in the royal priesthood of Christ and His Church, uniting us in a common kinship with all our baptized brethren by this spiritual solidarity, which is the Communion of Saints, consecrating us as living chalices, as living temples to the personal and social worship of the true God.
 
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Paul, This might help as well:

Our Lords Interest
….Father Raoul Plus, S.J. (1882-1958)
Adopted sons and daughters
"This is the campaign that is most urgently needed: to help each and every one to Realize fully, perhaps for the first time, the divine dignity that Baptism confers by engrafting us upon Christ Himself "

Our Lord did not come for the sake of those who are well, but for those who are in need. The soul that is lost interest Him far more than the ninety-nine that are just; the venturesome lamb that has fallen into the pit, far more that the flock that has returned dutifully home; the coin that has rolled behind the furniture, far more than the fortune of the cash-box.

His interest is in the prodigals: Mary Magdalene, the women taken in adultery, Zacchaeus the publican, Simon the Pharisee, Barabbas, and His companions on the cross. The preferences of all Christians should be of the same kind. But what integrity this demands, what moral beauty, what sanctity! Some, perhaps, may be tempted to escape the corrosive or weakening effect of such surroundings by avoiding to much contact with the masses, by seeking only the company of their friends, of those who think like them and to whom they feel more readily attracted. It is so much more pleasant to consort with those who are like you, and with whom you have ideals and interest in common.

Such a method is disastrous. If the leaven is to act upon the mass, it must be mingled with it. If it is separate from the mass, it forgets its proper task. It is a leading axiom in Catholic action not to remove good elements from the surroundings in which they exist, but rather to sanctify them so that they may serve to elevate and improve their fellows. In order to act effectively upon one’s surroundings, one must live in those surroundings; and, given the necessary virtue and power of action, the closer the contact, the greater the influence will be.

It is not literally true that is has been said of us: “You are gods,” and that we are to become “sons of God”? Let us give to these expressions their full Christian meaning. First and foremost, the baptized must learn to appreciate the incomparable privileges they have received by the sacrament which, in making them Christians, has brought the Blessed Trinity to dwell in their souls, and given them power to live the divine life, if only they will, and so long as they will. Let us lift up our heads and bear proudly the proud dignity of our Baptism.

How few of the baptized appreciate the essence of all revelations: that God dwells in the man who is in the state of grace? This is the campaign that is most urgently needed: to help each and every one to Realize fully, perhaps for the first time, the divine dignity that Baptism confers by engrafting us upon Christ Himself making us a living member of the Mystical Body of Christ, which is the Church, communicating to us the very life of the Blessed Trinity, making us partners in the royal priesthood of Christ and His Church, uniting us in a common kinship with all our baptized brethren by this spiritual solidarity, which is the Communion of Saints, consecrating us as living chalices, as living temples to the personal and social worship of the true God.
I am sorry for attacking you. your posting are excelent and i repent. i am getting attacked a lot an so natualy i have started to responded. now except that we differ in certin doctrine and that would lead to disputes which i did not want when i found this site.

I dont think you will be shocked to know that we teach a lot of the things said here. I am just a humble member not bright on very good at spelling. But it hurts more than i can say when the people on this forum attack my beliefs as you i have a very strong belief in christ and his love. He found me in sin he taught me to love myself and others. he blesses my life every day and that fills my heart with joy. to now that on the cross he died for me and that he suffered to take away my sin that through him i can return to live with god. please ignore any rantings that you see they are not aimed at those who respect others views and except that we are all the children of the lord.
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paul barlow
 
Dear Paul

I appreciate your post, and you did word it very well. Thank you.

The attack on the Mormon Church never came from the Catholic Apostolic faith, that which is Christianity in it’s fullest sense here on earth. It came from the one who said that all Christians fell into Apostasy. I studied the Catholic faith diligently, after many years I was baptized here in Utah. The size and scope of this faith is colossal. The people are pretty much the same, but the Christ is very real. I never thought I would ever proclaim this faith as I do now. I am a team member for the RCIA and I would gladly give my life for the truth that I have found. I intend to be a part of this new growth as long as I can take another breath. Because it truly frees souls from their selfish selves, including me.

It was as if I was stolen as a child, told that my parents were very evil and that I was never to search them out because I would just be disappointed. Then to find out that all along they have been searching for me. The reunion has been everything I could have ever expected and a lot more, along with all the sin that encompasses the Catholic Church, I mean each and every one of us. It is the glorious Christ that becomes the focus when you find out who you really are. You find him in this faith and you come to understand the love he has for us sinners. You then give your life to Him and you get through this dilemma. You find yourself loving those you once hated, you find yourself moving down rather that up. And that my friend is really a good thing. But who would ever attend enough Mass’s to find this treasure? This 2000 year old faith? Not many do. I consider myself lucky.
 
because we belive that through time your church has gone astray.2 peter 2:1-3, acts 20:29-30, matt15:7-9 ect 😃
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WHAT??? How has it gone astray! If you ask me, I think the other religions have gone astray!!!
:mad:

Jesus NEVER said that He was going to have a billion different denominations!

But then again, I should just keep my yap shut and hope that all people will come to know the fullness of Truth :ehh:
 
Paris Blues:
WHAT??? How has it gone astray! If you ask me, I think the other religions have gone astray!!!
:mad:

Jesus NEVER said that He was going to have a billion different denominations!
But then again, I should just keep my yap shut and hope that all people will come to know the fullness of Truth :ehh:
i quite agree its just who is right. and there the problems of sectarianism come in.

no we should ask questions thats how we learn :eek: :rolleyes:
 
paul barlow:
i quite agree its just who is right. and there the problems of sectarianism come in.

no we should ask questions thats how we learn :eek: :rolleyes:
Whatever…
 
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