I Don't Want a Family

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Hey everyone,

I have a question for all of you. I am just about to turn 25 and graduate college. Years ago I decided that I do not want to have a family of my own. Since I don’t want to have a family I haven’t dated. I consider dating a way to meet a wife and I don’t want a wife. My mother is really pushing me to go out and date and create a family. I just don’t want to.

Is it acceptable for a Catholic male to not create a family, or should I create my own family?
 
Hey everyone,

I have a question for all of you. I am just about to turn 25 and graduate college. Years ago I decided that I do not want to have a family of my own. Since I don’t want to have a family I haven’t dated. I consider dating a way to meet a wife and I don’t want a wife. My mother is really pushing me to go out and date and create a family. I just don’t want to.

Is it acceptable for a Catholic male to not create a family, or should I create my own family?
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You need to be open to where God is calling you. If you feel He is calling you to the single life, that is fine. But if you have some sort of “issues” that are standing in your way of having a family or other vocation, He would want you to work those out.

It is not for your mother to know where God is calling you. But she may see things you don’t. She loves you but, as an adult, you have to make your own choices.**
 
Hey everyone,

I have a question for all of you. I am just about to turn 25 and graduate college. Years ago I decided that I do not want to have a family of my own. Since I don’t want to have a family I haven’t dated. I consider dating a way to meet a wife and I don’t want a wife. My mother is really pushing me to go out and date and create a family. I just don’t want to.

Is it acceptable for a Catholic male to not create a family, or should I create my own family?
To answer your question directly, the answer is Yes. It is acceptable for individuals to live a celibate life. In fact, the Church praises those who voluntarily embrace a life of celibacy. You need not be a religious or a cleric to be celibate. Celibacy is a call for many people.

Some people marry, are widowed and choose to remain celibate. I was married and widowed with two children. After my wife died I decided to be a celibate Franciscan.

I know others who have never been married and choose to be celibate. There are lay organizations for celibate Catholics. These are not religious orders or secular orders. They are associations. You may want to look into them.

Hope this helps.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
 
Hey everyone,

I have a question for all of you. I am just about to turn 25 and graduate college. Years ago I decided that I do not want to have a family of my own. Since I don’t want to have a family I haven’t dated. I consider dating a way to meet a wife and I don’t want a wife. My mother is really pushing me to go out and date and create a family. I just don’t want to.

Is it acceptable for a Catholic male to not create a family, or should I create my own family?
It’s acceptable to never get married/have children…but, one must live a chaste life. As long as you choose a life of celibacy, then not getting married is a fine option for you. In the Bible, it specifically says (the passage escapes me) that some are called to be single, some are called to be married.

You’re only 25…you might change your mind. Just keep your mind and heart open to God’s plans for you, and all will go well with your life.

Whatever you choose, God bless you in your walk.🙂
 
With all due respect to people on this thread, if we have a young man who wants to live a celibate life, even at age 25, shouldn’t we be encouraging this person?

I get the sense that we are all saying “Keep your options open because you’re young.” There are thousands of men and women who become consecrated lay people before age 25 and they commit themselves to a consecrated life, outside of the religious life. These men and women consecrate themselves until death.

There are religious and clerics who make vows of celibacy before the age of 25, until death.

We have had saints who committed themselves to lives of celibacy when they were in their teens.

Today we have communities for lay people, such as Modanna House. These young men and women join at age 18 by 21 they make a vow of celibacy until death. They are not religious. They do not live in community like religious do. They live in loosely structured settings where they get together once or twice a week. The rest of the week they go to work and bring the Gospel to their enviornment.

We have Secular Religious Orders where many members who are celibate make a vow of celibacy at age 21 and join as early as 16. In the USA this is not allowed, because the legal age of majority is 18. There is a conflict between the secular religious order and the state. Therefore, they can’t join until their 18th birthday.

I don’t understand the lack of encouragement to someone who does not feel the call to have a family. If one does not have a call to have a family, the obvious call is to a life of celibacy. We should encourage that call.

Then there are many people who marry for life by age 25. That is rarely discouraged. Rarely do we tell a 25-year old not to marry, but keep his options open and wait to see what God wants. We encourage them to be happy. Let’s encourage this person to be happy.

If someone said that they want to marry, but not have a family, then we have a problem. But the OP said that he is not in any relationship, because he does not want a family. It sounds to me, unless I misunderstand the OP, that he is ruling out marriage.

Celibacy is a state of life that should be encouraged. It speaks about the Kingdom of God and of the Church’s fidelity to her only spouse, Jesus Christ. It is a prophetic way of living, especially when it is embraced by a lay person. It makes a greater impact on those whom we meet and touch, because they expect celibacy from religious and clerics. Most people do not expect to find lay people consecrated to celibacy. Thus, when the individual has an opportunity to speak of life in the Kingdom of God in the here and now, he is speaking about eternity. This is a powerful witness that brings many to Christ.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
 
Whether it is celibacy or marriage…one should always keep his/her mind and heart open to God’s will. That’s just my opinion.

I’m not encouraging one way of life over another.
 
Whether it is celibacy or marriage…one should always keep his/her mind and heart open to God’s will. That’s just my opinion.

I’m not encouraging one way of life over another.
We are always called to be open to God’s will. However, there are certain circumstances when we know that God has no other wish for us. For example, if one is married, God obviously does not will celibacy for us. There is nothing to be open to, because there is no other plan in God’s mind.

When one consecrates one’s life to celibacy, that’s it. God’s will has been decided. There is nothing more to expect.

What I understand the OP to be saying is that he feels God is not calling him to marriage and family. In trying to be consistent with the tradition of the Church and with the great spiritual masters, the Catholic response to this is to encourage that the person discern in this the call to celibacy. The Church would encourage the person that he explore a life of celibacy through prayer and spiritual direction.

The masters in spiritual theology have always written on this subject. They do not encourage what the person is not attracted to. They encourage according to the attraction. In this case, the attraction is to a celibate life.

There are people like Pier Giorgio who by the time he was in college had consecrated his life to live according to the spirit of St. Dominic, but not as a religious. He had consecrated himself to celibacy by age 20 under the guidance of his Dominican spiritual director. Matt Talbot never entered religious life, but consecrated himself to a life of celibacy and lived the spirit of St. Francis as a lay person.

We need to encourage the life of celibacy as a vocation within the Catholic Church. It’s part of our Catholic tradition and a source of grace to the Church as is marriage, religious life and Holy Orders.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
 
We are always called to be open to God’s will. However, there are certain circumstances when we know that God has no other wish for us. For example, if one is married, God obviously does not will celibacy for us. There is nothing to be open to, because there is no other plan in God’s mind.

When one consecrates one’s life to celibacy, that’s it. God’s will has been decided. There is nothing more to expect.

What I understand the OP to be saying is that he feels God is not calling him to marriage and family. In trying to be consistent with the tradition of the Church and with the great spiritual masters, the Catholic response to this is to encourage that the person discern in this the call to celibacy. The Church would encourage the person that he explore a life of celibacy through prayer and spiritual direction.

The masters in spiritual theology have always written on this subject. They do not encourage what the person is not attracted to. They encourage according to the attraction. In this case, the attraction is to a celibate life.

There are people like Pier Giorgio who by the time he was in college had consecrated his life to live according to the spirit of St. Dominic, but not as a religious. He had consecrated himself to celibacy by age 20 under the guidance of his Dominican spiritual director. Matt Talbot never entered religious life, but consecrated himself to a life of celibacy and lived the spirit of St. Francis as a lay person.

We need to encourage the life of celibacy as a vocation within the Catholic Church. It’s part of our Catholic tradition and a source of grace to the Church as is marriage, religious life and Holy Orders.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
That’s a very beautiful way of stating that. Thank you for this.

I agree, too.

I think it’s so common in our society to have to fit into a certain hole…you know? Like either married, religious…or??? Do you know what I mean? I always knew I would be married someday when I was a teenager…but kept my mind open for whatever God wanted. If the OP truly feels called to celibacy, then that is all that matters.

Thanks for this thoughtful reply.🎉
 
Hey everyone,

I have a question for all of you. I am just about to turn 25 and graduate college. Years ago I decided that I do not want to have a family of my own. Since I don’t want to have a family I haven’t dated. I consider dating a way to meet a wife and I don’t want a wife. My mother is really pushing me to go out and date and create a family. I just don’t want to.

Is it acceptable for a Catholic male to not create a family, or should I create my own family?
Have you ever considered being a priest?

You should pray about where God wants you to be in life, if He wants you to get married and have a family or stay single. Listen to what other people say(like your mom for example) , sometimes they could be right and God could be using them to try and get you to go down that path in life yanno… or other times it could be just something that they themselves want for you but you don’t have any real desire to do(hence you aren’t called to serve that particular vocation)…
I’ll pray that you find your calling in Life, it hard sometimes to discern our vocation but keep praying about it God will lead you on the right path 🙂

Your brother in Christ
Zachary
 
Hey, JNM, what ever you decide to do - do what you feel is right in prayer. You are of majority and you are no longer obligated to “obey” your parents AS LONG AS YOU DON"T LIVE UNDER THEIR ROOF. You are only obligated to seek counsel. If you are not 100% sure in your heart than wait it out and see if marriage is not for you. Try dating to see if you can connect to another person - and I do NOT mean physically but on that spiritual and emotional level that a couple needs for a loving marriage. However, if you have NO dating experience at all is it that maybe you are avoiding something that you are afraid of and this is what your mother may be seeing- that ominous fear of rejection. One of my good friends got a late 50 year something calling to be a friar and became one after having his marriage annulled. I highly respected that choice and comittment because he knew exactly what his sacrifice to God is. He spends his life working with people who have lost faith in the Church and God. Some never lose that faith. Whatever you decide my prayers are with you.

God bless,
 
Hey everyone,

I have a question for all of you. I am just about to turn 25 and graduate college. Years ago I decided that I do not want to have a family of my own. Since I don’t want to have a family I haven’t dated. I consider dating a way to meet a wife and I don’t want a wife. My mother is really pushing me to go out and date and create a family. I just don’t want to.

Is it acceptable for a Catholic male to not create a family, or should I create my own family?
If you have discerned that it is your vocation to remain single, then I don’t think that’s unacceptable at all.
 
With all due respect to people on this thread, if we have a young man who wants to live a celibate life, even at age 25, shouldn’t we be encouraging this person?

I get the sense that we are all saying “Keep your options open because you’re young.”



I don’t understand the lack of encouragement to someone who does not feel the call to have a family. If one does not have a call to have a family, the obvious call is to a life of celibacy. We should encourage that call.

Then there are many people who marry for life by age 25. That is rarely discouraged. Rarely do we tell a 25-year old not to marry, but keep his options open and wait to see what God wants. We encourage them to be happy. Let’s encourage this person to be happy.



JR 🙂
Hi JReducation

I was going to reply in the same way and then found your post which makes me writing one almost redundant.

Agree given some of the advice here it would be more logical for those offering it to tell those entering the priesthood, a religious order or marrying at 25 not to do so as they are closing their options in ways that the poster is not.

Also why are so many people sure that those who consider they are not called to marriage, will change their minds? Doesn’t work the other way around.
 
Hey, JNM, what ever you decide to do - do what you feel is right in prayer. You are of majority and you are no longer obligated to “obey” your parents AS LONG AS YOU DON"T LIVE UNDER THEIR ROOF. You are only obligated to seek counsel. If you are not 100% sure in your heart than wait it out and see if marriage is not for you. Try dating to see if you can connect to another person - and I do NOT mean physically but on that spiritual and emotional level that a couple needs for a loving marriage. However, if you have NO dating experience at all is it that maybe you are avoiding something that you are afraid of and this is what your mother may be seeing- that ominous fear of rejection.
CCC 2230 states that when they attain adulthood, people have the right and duty to choose their profession and state of life, and parents arenot supposed to exert pressure. I saw no exception for cases in which they still lived at home (we don’t even know if he lives at home or not).

However, the rest of your post is correct. Here’s why.

According to CCC 1603, the vocation to marriage is written into our very nature. The only question is whether we have a vocation other than marriage, i.e., “virginity for the sake of the sake of the kingdom”, which CCC 2233 further subdefines as “priestly ministry” or “consecrated life”. So, JNM, the question is this: what is the motivation behind not wanting a family? Do you feel you have a true call toward priestly ministry or consecrated life? If so, great, explore it further. Or…do you see the quality of most women you meet today and say to yourself “YUCK!!”? Or does the high divorce rate scare you off? Does your mother’s nagging indicate that she is overbearing? Or do you have committment-phobia? Is today’s economy making you scared thatyou may not be able to support a wife and children?

As joandarc2008 and Feanaro’s Wife have pointed out, if there are other issues bothering you, you need to address them, as they could cloud any serious vocational discernment.
Is it acceptable for a Catholic male to not create a family, or should I create my own family?
??? Could you explain this a bit further?

Additionally, you must ask yourself if you can handle lifelong celibacy, since that is what giving up on marriage entrails. Think about this very hard, because if you can’t, you have a lot of re-evaluating to do.
 
Norseman82 I had to go back and look it up and make sure that I didn’t imagine it:

2217 As long as a child lives at home with his parents, the child should obey his parents in all that they ask of him when it is for his good or that of the family. "Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord."22 Children should also obey the reasonable directions of their teachers and all to whom their parents have entrusted them. But if a child is convinced in conscience that it would be morally wrong to obey a particular order, he must not do so.

As they grow up, children should continue to respect their parents. They should anticipate their wishes, willingly seek their advice, and accept their just admonitions. Obedience toward parents ceases with the emancipation of the children; not so respect, which is always owed to them. This respect has its roots in the fear of God, one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

It actually comes from the very first part of that paragraph. I guess this just depends on when emancipation is. In my in-laws case they haven’t seen their son as emancipated and he turned 30 this past June. :cool: 🤷

God bless,
 
joandarc2008:

Was it your intention to have your sword-wielding emoticon continually taking swipes at the beating heart?

May one assume, then, that you are, um, anti-life?

marietta
“EmoticonsForLife!”
 
Hi JReducation

I was going to reply in the same way and then found your post which makes me writing one almost redundant.

Agree given some of the advice here it would be more logical for those offering it to tell those entering the priesthood, a religious order or marrying at 25 not to do so as they are closing their options in ways that the poster is not.

Also why are so many people sure that those who consider they are not called to marriage, will change their minds? Doesn’t work the other way around.
I believe there are two dangers that Catholics need to avoid.
  1. The belief that everyone is called to marriage. While marriage and parenting are innate to us, as the Church teaches, many people have achieved great sanctity outside of the state of marriage. The answer then is that MOST people are called to marriage, not ALL.
  2. The second danger that we have to avoid is to push the priesthood, because we have a shortage of priests. That’s promoting a vocation to meet our needs, not the needs of the individual. Holy Orders must first sanctify the cleric, then the laity. A person who embraces the clerical state to satisfy the wishes of another is like the person who enters a marriage of convenience to the parents.
That being said, we must also understand that the Consecrated Life is not only for those who belong to religious communities. There are many consecrated lay persons in the Church. In fact, secular institutes are not for religious, but they live a celibate life until death while remaining secular and lay. There are also individuals who make private vows of ceibacy, poverty and obedience and do not live in community. They go to work everyday and they bring the Gospel to the secular world by their presence. The Church has always recognized these men and women as consecrated persons. A good example is Catherine of Siena. She was not a religious, neither was Pier Giorgio or Matt Talbot. Today we have Catherine de Hueck Doherty. She was celibate and married to a priest. Another example that comes to mind is Dorothy Day. These persons are consecrated persons by virtue of living the vowed life. Canon law makes provisions for persons in private vows. Some make them for life and others make them for a year at a time.

The Daughters of Charity come to mind as an example. They are not religious sisters or nuns. They are secular women who live in community. They never make perpetual vows, which allows them to leave the community at any time. They renew their vows every year on the Feast of the Annunciation.

Finally, there are Secular Religious Orders such as the Secular Franciscans that have both celibate and married members. These are real religious orders with a rule, constitutions, their own government and mission in the Church. Their formation period is quite extensive. I can’t speak for other orders, but he Secular Franciscan formation program now is one year of postulancy, 18 months of novitiate and three years of temporary profession, then perpetual profession. It’s longer than training to be a priest, which is usually four years of graduate school/seminary.

Hope this helps as to what options there are out there in the Church.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
 
Hey everyone,

I have a question for all of you. I am just about to turn 25 and graduate college. Years ago I decided that I do not want to have a family of my own. Since I don’t want to have a family I haven’t dated. I consider dating a way to meet a wife and I don’t want a wife. My mother is really pushing me to go out and date and create a family. I just don’t want to.

Is it acceptable for a Catholic male to not create a family, or should I create my own family?
Really! I am in the exact same boat, except that my mom hasn’t gotten obsessive (yet). Why the heck would you think it isn’t ok to be single? I think I might know…
Anyway, so maybe now is the time to get a spiritual director so you know more about where you are going? Just a thought. Singlehood is a blessing!
 
I am 60 years old and my Mama has hushed her lamentation that I never married, but still is sad that she will die without that Grand Slam of having all her children married. (My four sisters have had 9 marriages among them so far, 8 of them ending in divorce. Mama says “At least they are trying!”)

I have never felt any inclination to marry. I was engaged once and felt a very strong inclination to not marry him, that I fought until finally HE broke off the engagement, because of the enormous pressure I was getting from all sides to gettaman, any man, and prove I was a ‘real woman’ thereby. The only engagement I had that would have ended, I think, in a happy marriage, was torpedoed by the father of the groom (whose curses hurled at me have all rebounded and stuck to him – he is in the last few months of his life and suffering his third different kind of cancer, but I forgave him long ago.) I truly believe that there are some of us that are simply not called to marriage and that we should resist with all our might the continual pressure of society and our many-times-divorced friends to force us into a circumstance that is patently wrong for us.

Sir, if you feel called to a single and celibate life, stick to your guns and follow that call. You are not required to live someone else’s life even if that someone is your Mama.
 
Honestly, I’ve been wondering if I have a calling to the single life. You see, I have dated and I don’t like it. I like it when people are my friends without romantic inclinations attached to them. I’ve also had a missionary call for as long as I can remember and feel that I’m probably more suited to the lifestyle of a single lay missionary or a missionary Religious Order. And mainly, because I’ve had too many experiences in my prayer life pointing in those directions.
 
That sounds like a good direction for you to go – at least to discern whether it is your calling or not.

I am thinking of working with the Sally Ann when I retire. I like to travel and I can sleep in a tent and do not wear makeup or style my hair – so I can go intio any situation and work at what I am given for as long as needed; and nothing much fazes me. My only problem is that I dont suffer whiners gladly. Perhaps they would have work for people who deal better with mops and dirty dishes than with people.
 
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