I don't want kids.. I don't like them but I'm open to them

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Oh gosh no. She’s very different from me! I’ll be 30 years old next year and I know Pregnancy is normal. And there is no reason to hate the idea of childbirth! Woman’s bodies are designed by God so there is nothing to “put your body through” To be honest it sounds pretty selfish in her reasons. I study a lot of Theology Of The Body and being fruitful and total within involve the openness of having children. Which is why even tho I do not want or like them. I am not going to stop myself nor am going to try really really hard to have them lol
Sorry. When I read your post initially it just sounded very similar, almost like the same poster under a different name. I realize now that is not the case. I sincerely apologize.

There still may be some good insights on that thread, even though the situation is not exactly the same as yours. God bless.
 
I just dont desire it. I do not think I’m going to be a bad mother either. I just have no desire to be one. I’m praying I’ll be able to one day want them. But its hard to force myself.
 
I thought your post was going to be similar to hers, but it isn’t. Pregnancy DOES change your body and can be uncomfortable or even dangerous, but it mostly works out if you’ve got adequate nutrition, rest, and prenatal care. Personally, it was my least favorite part of having kids, though it’s quite thrilling to see your baby on the ultrasound machine for the first time.

If you decide to marry and have children, you should work very hard not to be annoyed by your kids. Children understand from a young age when they are perceived as a burden. Actually, sometimes they can think they’re a burden even when they’re not, when they’re sensitive.

This may be hard, but perhaps not. You may find that your kids don’t annoy you like others’ do; I know plenty of people (including my mom) who don’t really like kids, but who were nevertheless warm, loving parents to their own children. Er, this is a bit of a crass comparison, but it’s sort of like your own BO being less offensive to you than to others. The things that annoy you about children–shrill voices, messy, demanding, etc–may not bother you as much.

Good luck deciding. For what it’s worth–very little, as I’m just a stranger on the internet–I love being a parent. Now, please excuse me while I go reprimand my boys for throwing things instead of napping.
 
Oh yes it is so scary. I’m not super afraid of it. I actually have told my own boyfriend that I doubt that I will dislike my own kids. But he worries about that too.
 
If you are Catholic, though, it is concerning that you would take the risk of having relations, knowing you would most likely at some point become pregnant. Seems sort of selfish to me, but I am not judging.
I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say here. Why do you think it seems selfish?
I am not Catholic, so I don’t have any issues with birth control. Parents should really want and desire a child if they have them, in this day and age. That means through all phases of life: babies, todllers, children, teenagers, etc.
Birth control is not infallible. Plenty of people who use birth control get pregnant when they don’t want to be. There are plenty of “unwanted” children who are the result of failed birth control.

Natural Family Planning, when done properly, does work. It’s not infallible but the effectiveness rates are pretty much the same as your average method of contraception.

However, Catholics really aren’t supposed to use NFP to avoid children entirely, and must be open to having children in order for their marriage to be valid. The OP understands this, which is why she started this thread. She also appreciates the fact that her future husband would want children. Seems anything BUT selfish to me.
 
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I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say here. Why do you think it seems selfish?
If one knows one doesn’t want children, but still has relations with out using all available precautions (yes, birth control, including sterilization if necessary) it seems they aren’t really taking into consideration the suffering another human being lives when they know they weren’t wanted. Kids pick up on these things, rather easily. They know.

Please note, I am not advocating for birth control or sterilization. I understand the Church teaching on this. I am advocating for consideration of what it means to bring an unwanted child into the world.
 
Hopefully you don’t apply your motherly instincts (evolved to tend to babies) to your husband or pets instead. Your husband might have long ago broke that shackle as part of growing up.
 
If one knows one doesn’t want children, but still has relations with out using all available precautions (yes, birth control, including sterilization if necessary) it seems they aren’t really taking into consideration the suffering another human being lives when they know they weren’t wanted. Kids pick up on these things, rather easily. They know.
I’m just coming from the perspective that anyone who marries in the Church must understand and accept the fact that God designed marriage to create new life and that in order to validly marry in the Church, they must be willing and prepared to accept any and all children that come from their union. That doesn’t mean they can’t plan their pregnancies and limit their family size with NFP, but anytime a pregnancy occurs — planned or not — they must accept and love the child. The OP seems to understand this and is willing to put aside her desire to remain childless to do right by God and her future husband. That right there is unselfish.
Please note, I am not advocating for birth control or sterilization. I understand the Church teaching on this. I am advocating for consideration of what it means to bring an unwanted child into the world.
If she didn’t have any consideration for that, I don’t think she would have started this thread.
 
Don’t worry! I was the same way!

I never thought kids were cute. They kind of grossed me out. I was never comfortable complimenting other people’s kids. I said that I never wanted kids. I had told my boyfriend (now husband) that I couldn’t ever have kids because I didn’t know if I could love them. He said I would change my mind once I had my own. He was right!

Now after having two of my own, I couldn’t imagine life without them. I mean they completely changed everything! I love them so much! Even my husband said he was surprised by how much I changed and how wonderful a mother I am to our children.

It’s funny though, I still can’t stand other people’s kids. They still annoy me. I still can’t get comfortable complimenting other people’s kids even when they compliment me on mine. I don’t usually find other people’s babies cute.

So, you’re not alone! Once you have your own children, you’ll see what I mean!
 
I don’t disgaree with your list, but to have at least one child is also seems as very important. Something much more important than marriage or long love relationship. Not really pressure, but the society see no limit linked to biology or reality. If you want it you are entitle to have them no matter what, and the society should help you.

In this understanding, a child can be add on your list as another consommer product.
 
I’m just coming from the perspective that anyone who marries in the Church must understand and accept the fact that God designed marriage to create new life and that in order to validly marry in the Church, they must be willing and prepared to accept any and all children that come from their union. That doesn’t mean they can’t plan their pregnancies and limit their family size with NFP, but anytime a pregnancy occurs — planned or not — they must accept and love the child. The OP seems to understand this and is willing to put aside her desire to remain childless to do right by God and her future husband. That right there is unselfish.
I guess my concern is that you don’t just “agree to love”. I realize many say love isn’t an emotion, it is a choice. I disagree. Love is far more than a choice. Once you love, you then choose how your love manifests itself. I have known children who weren’t wanted, and I knew their parents who were good people. They cared for their children to the best of their ability. The core emotion of love was missing, though. Yes, they willed the best for their children, but it was hollow. There was no connection. You can’t fake it. Kids know. And it is devastating, typically. That is my concern with this topic.
 
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Some people don’t want to have children and would turn to love them completly. Some wants children but would find them in difficulty in raising them. It is difficult to know before.

And if it happened psycjoligical support is needed.

As we don’t know the OP and all her complexity and we are not expert, I think the idea of counseling with one or two psychologists may be a good thing.
 
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I agree with Alwaysdream1231. You shouldn’t be getting married if you don’t want the same thing. Children are a really big issue, and for you to be so “I don’t like children”, it’s best to go your separate ways now.
 
I have known children who weren’t wanted, and I knew their parents who were good people. They cared for their children to the best of their ability. The core emotion of love was missing, though. Yes, they willed the best for their children, but it was hollow. There was no connection. You can’t fake it. Kids know. And it is devastating, typically. That is my concern with this topic.
I understand your concerns, but I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as “if you don’t want children, get yourself sterilized (or whatever method you use to close the door to procreating) or else you’re being selfish.” Not all planned/wanted children end up being totally loved and not all unplanned/initially unwanted children end up being unloved. I’m a totally wanted, totally planned child. My parents had fertility issues and went out of their way to get treatments because they desperately wanted a baby. They undoubtedly loved me emotionally, but they had an image of the perfect child in their head, and anytime I deviated from their rigid expectations, they withdrew affection. It was absolutely devastating. If I wasn’t cheerful enough, didn’t get good enough grades, didn’t like or enjoy the same things they did, or if I had pretty much any opinion or desire or behavior that conflicted with the ideal image of how they wanted me to be, their attitude toward me turned to ice. Anytime I was exhibiting the exact behavior they wanted I felt accepted and loved. But the moment I wasn’t happy enough or excited enough or if I made any mistake at all, they projected the attitude that they no longer loved me. At least once or twice, they pretty much explicitly said they regretted having me and that I was making their lives miserable. It took years of therapy for me to realize that all the things they reacted to in this manner were normal developments for a child, and that some were not even misbehaviors at all—just me being me—and that I hadn’t deserved this treatment from my parents. I’ve struggled with depression, anxiety, OCD. I’ve contemplated suicide plenty of times. Sometimes I wish my parents hadn’t tried so hard to have me. Some people shouldn’t be parents…and I believe my parents are two of those people. But when all is said and done, I’m glad I exist, and I’d rather exist than not. I have other people in my life who made me feel consistently loved and valued, and I do acknowledge that I have talents I can share with others and make a difference in the world. Despite all my hardships, I’m thankful I’m alive.

And then there are people—as some have described on this thread—that don’t think they like or want children, but they have them and couldn’t be happier or love them more.
 
But when all is said and done, I’m glad I exist, and I’d rather exist than not
I guess this is key. Many don’t feel the way you do, even if they come from similar circumstances. Perhaps I am low-risk person. I always try to err on the side of caution.
 
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But when all is said and done, I’m glad I exist, and I’d rather exist than not
I guess this is key. Many don’t feel the way you do, even if they come from similar circumstances. Perhaps I am low-risk person. I always try to err on the side of caution.
My point was more so that you don’t know how things are going to turn out. People who planned/want their children can end up not loving them, and people who wanted nothing to do with having children can end up viewing their unplanned children as the greatest thing that ever happened to them. There’s no way to know for sure until it happens.
 
I do believe, though, that some things are more certain than others. I wouldn’t take the risk.
 
My main point is that people like the OP are not automatically being selfish.
Thank you for sharing your point of view. I wouldn’t have thought of the situation in this light.

The OP is transparent, open. I would not be surprised at all if she turned out to be the best mom, relying less on her feelings than the rest of us might do, and more on her knowledge of herself and willingness to make a conscious decision to love.

More prayer and discernment, with her boyfriend and a trusted advisor (priest?) who knows her.
 
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