I find Buddhism disheartening?

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Tis_Bearself said:
Good grief, now you’ve decided I’m a “liberal” Catholic because I don’t agree with your position and you’ve decided to give me advice on how to get more holy?

Again, this is a classic example of why people don’t even bother trying to discuss stuff. Assumptions, generalizations, labels, unsought advice on how to be a better Catholic which means agreeing with you. SMH.

I’m not all that “liberal” in my mind, but even if I was, it’s not a disease I need to recover from. I’m comfortable with gray areas and you’re not. It’s okay for us to be different. I don’t have to be like you.
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you said you prefer relativism, not separate objective truths. That implies and will influence your thinking on a lot of things. I might be pigeon-holing you, but you need to express yourself more fully, flesh your pov more clearly, so I know what you mean.
I believe relativism is a kind of root of all evil. This is where you’ll need to justify your pov. Why do you support relativism?
 
Tis_Bearself said:
Making generalizations and calling them by the put-down of “modernism “ is by and large unhelpful. It may make traditionalists feel better and more holy in their position. It may provide a clearer boundary for those who like that. But it also signifies to me a huge unwillingness to listen and a stifling of dialogue and creative solutions. This would be a negative thing in any workplace of mine ever, so it’s hard for me to see such generalizing and stifling as a positive thing for the Church.
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I disagree strongly.And yet you are happy to use the word “traditionalist”? See. We have to use words to express ourselves. Otherwise we cant communicate. You are wrong on this I’m afraid. I have listened to the other sides pov on this for too long. They are deluded.
I can see the hypocrisy in your posts as was in my thinking then.
It’s not too late bear. You can change!
 
No reason to flag. I would put you on ignore if there was such a function as I don’t want to be influenced by relativism.
 
What have I learnt from this thread?
That bullying and harassment are alive and well on “Christian” yes “Christian” Internet forums.
This may well be my last post so I want to say something close to my chest but it needs to be said.
People don’t like me on here because I express conservative views. And they are strong views. I don’t think I was being rude by saying someone needs to be educated. I don’t think I’m holier than thou. But sometimes I do feel more informed because I have done a fair amount of reading of books by Catholic theologians. When someone comes on and expresses a strong view disagreeing with me, I’d like to know where their authority to have such an opinion comes from. Otherwise it is hard for me to respect their opinion. It is natural for me to say they need more education on the matter.
I haven’t been on here long enough to accumulate mates or friends or allies. That is to my disadvantage. Those of you who support each other in cliques can use the system here to gang up on lone wolves such as myself. Group flagging is more credible and the mod. will ignore it at his own peril.
Another thing I notice which is really disappointing is “baiting”. Posting something that is provocative, yet sneakily passes the guidelines of acceptable. Trying to get other members to react negatively, then flag them for it. How sad. So my point is there are Christians not walking the talk on here. Just playing childish games to satisfy their own bruised egos.
Anyway I’ve seen double standards on here that are appalling.
The heart of Catholicism. The heart of Christianity and truth is not on CAF nor on any other message board on the Internet.
And lastly to anyone who hates objective truths or conservative traditional values of the Catholic Church, stop and think more deeply. Research. because the truth is not a feeling. Just because you feel conservative Catholicism is too narrow minded, doesn’t mean it is. Old-fashioned is not necessarily bad. Progessivism and change in society is not necessarily good.
Dig deep and don’t fall for half-truths and feel good values. The Catholic Church is one of the few icons in society which is not caving in to societal pressure. That is reason enough to stay Catholic.
To anyone who wants to say “Good riddance to bad rubbish” I am sorry if I offended you.
 
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Despite what modernists say… I still believe dragons are real. You are not alone.

But I don’t think that is the crux of a lot on here as I want to take both sides sometimes.

I am not a conservative but I consider myself to have traditionalist leanings though I only attend the novus ordo. Most of what I do independently is influenced by traditionalists.

But tis bearself is nice. Keep the venom out of it unless it is really necessary.

Often times we are wrong. And no one is more catholic than the pope. Unless idk maybe Scotland 😉
 
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Sometimes we can be bullies and not intend nor realize we are doing it.

Sometimes we feel we are simply stating a fact or our opinion and someone else takes it as an insult.

Effective communication is an art.
 
goodcatholic said:
What have I learnt from this thread?
That bullying and harassment are alive and well on “Christian” yes “Christian” Internet forums.
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Absolutely. And you’ve shown that bullying is “ok” if you feel like you’re rooting out “modernism” and “relativism”.
People don’t like me on here because I express conservative views.
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No. I spar with plenty of conservatives on here. I even like some of them. You aren’t the only one and conservative Catholics are vital members of this community. After all, they’re the ones that are “right”. 🤣
I do feel more informed because I have done a fair amount of reading of books by Catholic theologians. When someone comes on and expresses a strong view disagreeing with me, I’d like to know where their authority to have such an opinion comes from.
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Perhaps they’re more Jesuit in their approach and you’re more Dominican?
I haven’t been on here long enough to accumulate mates or friends or allies.
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I’ve been here so long that I’ve lost all mine. I still don’t get flagged all that often. Perhaps when you get flagged, maybe you’ve actually overstepped?
Another thing I notice which is really disappointing is “baiting”.
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You probably just feel baited by strong opposing views. Such is life.
To anyone who wants to say “Good riddance to bad rubbish” I am sorry if I offended you.
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You should stay! And just be more tolerant (which is different from “agreeable”) of other folks views and their right to express them. And maybe they’re just as educated as you are, but they went to a Thomist school and you went to a Molinist school. 😃
 
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Not at all - you have a great imagination that is thought provoking.
 
Initially, Judaism held a monistic view of the soul as part of the body with no differentiating characteristics, but merely a spirited impetus that propelled the body to function. Later, due to Hellenic influence, Talmudic Judaism regarded the soul dualistically as apart from the body, with an eternal quality both before and after the birth of the body. At the same time, Kabbalistic influence endowed the soul with a divine nature as a cosmic union of sparks of light from the universe with divine and erotic overtones. Not only is the soul eternal but it also consists of a divine force. The true nature of the soul or self is thus beyond what we physically or psychologically know of ourselves on earth.
 
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meltzerboy2 said:
Initially, Judaism held a monistic view of the soul as part of the body with no differentiating characteristics, but merely a spirited impetus that propelled the body to function.
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The view of the Sadducees?

That is pretty much Aristotle before Aquinas transformed his view to something he likely never said. Why would you say this is a pre-Hellenistic view?

What time period do you see Jewish thought being strongly influenced by “Hellenism”. And by Hellenism do you really mean Plato rather than Aristotle?
 
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Buddhism is a beautiful religion and Buddha was a Teacher just like Jesus Who founded a great world religion which brought about civilisation and to this day its influence is still felt all over the world.

They have a different understanding of God but they worship a Reality like all religions do only they don’t call it God. People of different Faiths reach out to God in different ways. Some call God a High Spirit and such. We shouldn’t allow diversity of thought to lead us to belive that we all are not worshipping the same God, for God is one.

Buddha taught virtues and a holy life just like Jesus did but to people who Jesus had not appeared to yet. For instance it is said in the Dhammapadda that… “A man may conquer ten times ten thousand men in battle but the true conquerer is he who conquers his own self”. So being in control of ones passions and lusts is part of being a Buddhist and Buddhists are taught to be mindful of evil thoughts entering their minds and there is just so much beauty in Buddhism that I cannot do justice to it here.

But it is truth. The spiritual teachings are similar to the teachings of Jesus . They challenge the soul to turn towards nobility and virtue. It is a very beautiful Faith and we can learn a lot from it.
 
Some Buddhist lineages have deities in Buddha. Bodhisattva, Avalokiteshvara, etc.
 
curious_cath said:
Some Buddhist lineages have deities in Buddha. Bodhisattva, Avalokiteshvara, etc.
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Buddhas and Bodhisattvas are not deities, they are a different category. That said, many humans treat them as deities, though that is incorrect. Bodhisattvas are more important than gods, and Buddhas are more important than Bodhisattvas.
It is said that soon after his enlightenment the Buddha passed a man on the road who was struck by the Buddha’s extraordinary radiance and peaceful presence. The man stopped and asked,

“My friend, what are you? Are you a celestial being or a god?”

“No,” said the Buddha.

“Well, then, are you some kind of magician or wizard?”

Again the Buddha answered, “No.”

“Are you a man?”

“No.”

“Well, my friend, then what are you?”

The Buddha replied, “I am awake.”
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