I have a dilemma, please help.

[FabiusMaximus]

FabiusMaximus.

She dedicates a considerable amount of time studying the Hebrew language (dont know how long ago/when she started, haven’t asked her yet), not sure if that qualifies as intense doctrinal study or simple reverence?

And to answer your question, I’ve never experience a “big warm fuzzy in my heart” so that would be a no. I don’t have one

Like I said, there’s no reason to believe that it is a “requirement” for worship, but that’s what a lot of Christians like her expect. It’s supposed to be a testimony about your faith. I believe that some push it too far because they tend to end up believing almost that it’s a requirement.

But your faith in God is* yours alone*, and she certainly does not have the right to make a judgment about your Christian faith based on the “warm fuzzies” she might experience. Although I don’t think she would mean it personally. Worship in Evangelicalism is very different than in Catholicism. There are not established liturgies or set ways to do things. There is usually a period designated for singing songs of praise (where the emotion generally kicks in), followed by a sermon by the pastor. I’ve never heard of an Evangelical church that serves Communion weekly (it’s usually monthly or quarterly).

I think the phrase* lex orendi, lex orendi *might be appropriate to describe all of this.

Your faith as a Catholic is based upon the fact that you believe in the Holy Trinity, the Incarnation, the Crucifixion, and the Resurrection, as well as the sacrament of the Church. You do not have to induce yourself into trying to experience a wave of emotion. Your faith is perfectly valid.

The problem with the warm fuzzies is that they are temporary. They might lift you up when times are good, but if there is no foundation in doctrine and study of the faith, then it won’t help you when times get tough.

 

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[rinnie]

Ok here it goes. I think I’ve enter a conversation thats way above my head with a girl who a devote Christian. I have to make a choice to either just drop the conversation all together that I have engaged with her, but at the same time even I would like to know how to answer these questions she proposed to me if I was confront by a born again Christians,
Here is what she wrote:

"Ok I’m going to pick your brain a bit. If I am pushing the boundaries please forgive me. You may decline to answer I won’t be offended.
Being God conscious is not the same as serving God. Do you serve God?
I grew up in the church. My grandfather is an ordained minister and Bible theologian. Both my parents are ordained ministers…there has not been a moment in my life that I have not known God/Jesus. That being said I didn’t begin serving him until three years ago. When you serve him and devote time to learning the character of God is where the transformation takes place within yourself…can be possible for you.
Or maybe you have experienced God on a personal level? "

This all started cause I told her I never had a “transformation” the way she apparently has. She wasn’t always a “good girl” I guess.

What I have a hard time with is, I don’t understand is when non Catholics ask the question, “Do you serve God?” I’ve heard that question ask so many time but to be honest all I care about is doing my best to obey the Church is teaching. So I don’t know what she means by that.

And also"have you experienced God on a personal level?"
Why do they always ask that, what does it even mean.

Well I just thought I could get some assistance on here on how to answer her.
Thanks for reading.

I would answer her with the truth in my life I guess. We as Catholics are taught in order to serve God we are to serve one another.

God told us to do whatever you do for the least of my brothers that you do unto me.

We were taught as far as I can remember in first grade that we are to be kind, help others in need and always pray for the mercy and grace of God to do his work.

We pray for the grace of God to lead us into doing his work here on earth, but its always different.

Sometimes it in silent prayer, for ourself or others. Sometimes it helping out friends, strangers. anyone who you see can use a helping hand.

We are taught to love those who hurt us, thats the hard one.

But my answer would be in service to those in need.

 

[rinnie]

FabiusMaximus.

She dedicates a considerable amount of time studying the Hebrew language (dont know how long ago/when she started, haven’t asked her yet), not sure if that qualifies as intense doctrinal study or simple reverence?

And to answer your question, I’ve never experience a “big warm fuzzy in my heart” so that would be a no. I don’t have one

Think about it, you never had the warm fuzzy in your heart. Remember back when you did something to make someone else happy, and there was nothing in it for you.

Think back to the look on that persons face, a smile a mile long, or a tear of Joy. What did you feel.

That is truly what the warm fuzzy is, its the God in you doing something for another. Do you recall that feeling of watching someone else happy, and knowing you had a part in it, no matter how small or large it was?

 

[avansa]

Anruari, pentecostal(or charasmatic) and baptist christians have very little in common with each other. I’m not a member of either denomination, but I’ve been to many churches of both. The two are like the two extremes of non-catholic christianity.
Pentecostals, in general, like to focus on the physical experiences of what they call the Holy Spirit-sometimes to the exclusion of biblical practices. Baptists-on the other hand-base almost everything they do on biblical practices, and often have two or three bible studies a week.
I have dear friends from many different churches, and one of the oldest is a catholic. She doesn’t attend a catholic church, but attends three different bible studies. One at a baptist church, one at a methodist church, and one at her home with some pentecostal evangelists.

 

[FJACatholic]

Like I said, there’s no reason to believe that it is a “requirement” for worship, but that’s what a lot of Christians like her expect. It’s supposed to be a testimony about your faith. I believe that some push it too far because they tend to end up believing almost that it’s a requirement.

But your faith in God is* yours alone*, and she certainly does not have the right to make a judgment about your Christian faith based on the “warm fuzzies” she might experience. Although I don’t think she would mean it personally. Worship in Evangelicalism is very different than in Catholicism. There are not established liturgies or set ways to do things. There is usually a period designated for singing songs of praise (where the emotion generally kicks in), followed by a sermon by the pastor. I’ve never heard of an Evangelical church that serves Communion weekly (it’s usually monthly or quarterly).

I think the phrase* lex orendi, lex orendi *might be appropriate to describe all of this.

Your faith as a Catholic is based upon the fact that you believe in the Holy Trinity, the Incarnation, the Crucifixion, and the Resurrection, as well as the sacrament of the Church. You do not have to induce yourself into trying to experience a wave of emotion. Your faith is perfectly valid.

The problem with the warm fuzzies is that they are temporary. They might lift you up when times are good, but if there is no foundation in doctrine and study of the faith, then it won’t help you when times get tough.

FabiusMaximus.

I understand, I’m not force looking for a “warm fuzzy.”
Just that personally I think its awesome to those who do get that gift to experience.
That’s basically all I was trying to express.
And Thanks again for reaffirming that getting a “warm fuzzy” feeling is not a requirement.
I totally agree with what you posted.

 

[FJACatholic]

Just thought I’d share what i had to reply to her. I think it’s only right since I basically used the advice IrishTrish, AussieCabbie, FabiusMaximus, and everyone in here gave me.

Her question: “Do you serve God?”

My response: "The short answer, yes.
But I don’t want to mislead you.
I’ve never gone on a missionary trip like you/have (though I would like to)
Never attended retreat to fellowship.
And I’ve never tried to evangelize.

The way I serve Christ is by talking and thanking Him through prayer, with His grace showing kindness and love to others, being charitable, helpful, repenting from any fault, attend Church on Sunday to worship.
Not actually sure what examples you would have as “serving God” is or if you agree/disagree with how I serve God.
Curious to know if you think how I live my life is up to par with how a Christian should serve God, perhaps you think there’s more to it than that?"

I also answered her “have you experience God on a personal level?”
I pretty much used verbatim what FabiusMaximus said on his 1st reply on my thread and told her how about my faith in the Holy Eucharist. She suppose to get back to me on that.

 

[FJACatholic]

Think about it, you never had the warm fuzzy in your heart. Remember back when you did something to make someone else happy, and there was nothing in it for you.

Think back to the look on that persons face, a smile a mile long, or a tear of Joy. What did you feel.

That is truly what the warm fuzzy is, its the God in you doing something for another. Do you recall that feeling of watching someone else happy, and knowing you had a part in it, no matter how small or large it was?

Rinnie, your right. Never really consider that but I do feel good when someone asks for myI help or helping someone in need.

 

[FJACatholic]

Here her response thus far.

"I think there’re a lot of ways to serve God. But what I meant by my question is are you living for him? Are you following his word and seeking him in all you do?
John 12:26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.
…I didn’t mean for you to compare your walk to mine. Sorry about that.

As for the Holy Spirit, I believe everyone who seeks to receive The Holy Spirit, can.
Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

I have had experiences of The Holy Spirit a few times, it is…well there just are no words to describe it. But I will tell you this…I will pray that The Holy Spirit come upon you in your own beautiful experience. Just keep serving and seeking The Lord and it will happen!"

She still has to get back to me on the Real Presence in the Eucharist.
I’m curious to know how she going to respond cause I quoted scripture.
Don’t know if she knows exactly our Catholic faith is, so I’m going to be happy to share it with her

 

[pablope]

Here her response thus far.

"I think there’re a lot of ways to serve God. But what I meant by my question is are you living for him? Are you following his word and seeking him in all you do?
John 12:26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.
…I didn’t mean for you to compare your walk to mine. Sorry about that.

 

[FJACatholic]

Here a follow up on what she had to reply when I told her how us Catholics believe in the Real Presence.

Her response: "Actually communion is one of the things Catholics and Christians have parallel beliefs. We too take it just as literal and prepare our hearts before we partake. "

She attends a church called Harvest in Southern California.
I guess I’ll just leave it as it is.
Thanks everyone here who took the time to reply to my post for support.
I really appreciate it.