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He sent me a text today saying that he figured out the one problem with all religions. I asked him what it was. He said that the problem was is that all believers assert that they are right.
My friend is a believer in total subjectivism. He thinks that the only truth is that there is no truth. He also thinks that it is arrogant to assert the beliefs of a religion because we cannot possibly know until the next life

What should I say to this. I feel like I’ve given him all the evidence for Christ and His Church I possibly can. He just says, “You can’t prove it.” I feel like I’m running around in circles with this guy.

Help?

Thanks!!!
 
If you can’t get through to him, then back off a bit and let the Holy Spirit do its work.
 
You should ask your friend questions like: Is murder wrong? Is rape wrong? Is sex with a child wrong? If his answer is yes then you have to ask him why (if his answers is no you have a bigger problem on your hands)? He should respond with because those acts harm others, but who said harming others is bad?

Harming others is bad because there are universal rules. The Catholic Church follows the universal rules. Your friend is a skeptic, so until he is willing to believe in the truth outside of the human mind he’ll never listen to you. But if you feel compelled to change his mind stick with trying to move him away from subjectivism and towards objectivism. Then work on the teachings of the Catholic (Universal) Church.
 
He sent me a text today saying that he figured out the one problem with all religions. I asked him what it was. He said that the problem was is that all believers assert that they are right.
My friend is a believer in total subjectivism. He thinks that the only truth is that there is no truth. He also thinks that it is arrogant to assert the beliefs of a religion because we cannot possibly know until the next life

What should I say to this. I feel like I’ve given him all the evidence for Christ and His Church I possibly can. He just says, “You can’t prove it.” I feel like I’m running around in circles with this guy.

Help?

Thanks!!!
I totally agree with Jade…Noboody said you had to till the ground…plant…water…prune…and.harvest. Plant a few seeds with peace and confidence…not with anxiety…and then water a bit with the Word…and let God do the rest with others.
 
Bertrand Russel once said that he once knew a solipist that wondered why there were not more solipists!😃
Anyway, your friends philosophy attacks itself! Simply tell him that he should embrace all positions including the rejection of his truth relativism.
Also, to say that one does not know the truth is not to say that there is no truth.
 
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He thinks that the only truth is that there is no truth.
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Is that true?
he should embrace all positions including the rejection of his truth relativism.
They’ve nailed it! Once your friend sees that what he’s really saying is “there’s no truth except for my truth”, then perhaps he’ll realize that he’s playing the same game as the religionists whom he denigrates… 😉
 
Some great posts, and I haven’t much to add.
He said that the problem was is that all believers assert that they are right.
It sounds like your friend doesn’t adequately understand what a religion is. When someone follows a particular religion, they bind themselves to a particular creed and group (in our case, the Church). This binding is of one’s total self: one’s moral, social and personal life is subsumed under the faith. If this is the case with religions, isn’t it reasonable that a religious follower should believe that he or she is right, and have no cowardice in asserting that? Does he believe it is better for someone to give their lives totally to some other but doubt the truth of it? Would he (or she) enter a marriage with a someone and yet doubt his (or her) spouse’s fidelity and love?

Now, it seems that your friend is fully convinced of his own position and doesn’t mind asserting that he is right over all other religions and religious followers. Is there a bit of hypocrisy here?
My friend is a believer in total subjectivism. He thinks that the only truth is that there is no truth.
As everyone has noted, subjectivism (especially global subjectivism), like relativism, is self-refuting and so cannot be true.
He also thinks that it is arrogant to assert the beliefs of a religion because we cannot possibly know until the next life.
Whether it is arrogant or not to assert such claims is, frankly, irrelevant. Being arrogant means being proud, boastful and thinking you and your religion are superior to others and belittling theirs. To be honest, I don’t see many religions doing this. Most religions are pretty honest about their truth claims and hold other faiths in at least a modicum of respect. To me, it is frequently atheists or secularists who are arrogant in their claims, condemning and belittling all religious believers. Just compare, for instance, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett and Christopher Hitchens to John Paul II, Fr Robert Baron and William Lane Craig.

But anyway, as I said, whether the believer is arrogant or not is not really the point. The question is: are their religious claims true? He says that we cannot possibly know until the next life. This is where you need to work some apologetics with him to show him that this isn’t the case, that there are good arguments and evidence for the truth of Christianity and that we can with confidence know that the Church’s claims are true.

And then, you can retort: how does he (or she) know that his (or her) claims and subjectivism are true?
 
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