I have read Fr Martin's book Building A Bridge: Q 1: why need for gay community?

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Not just that, but other things he’s said on other occasions.
 
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Fr. Martin is offering a false notion of mercy that says, “Go ahead and remain in your dark and destructive sinful life … God is perfectly okay with that.

If Father Heilman could back this up, I would say he is right. If not, I would say dishonesty is also dangerous. I do not know if it is true or not, so I will wait and see. At this point, I have read a lot of Fr. Martin without ever seeing where he says God is perfectly okay with any sin.
 
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God created you, body and eternal soul, for an eternity of beatitude with and in Him, in God the Holy Trinity and with all who are in Him. This is the coming Kingdom of God, which Jesus preached was even then “at hand”. It is at hand, for all who seek TRUTH. (NOT whatever “seems to work to me” - but Truth. Like Pilate, many ask rhetorically “Truth? What is that?” Those who disdain Truth will die in the lies of evil.)

May you find your true calling, brother.
 
So much good, orthodox Catholic writing on my list. Reading Ascent of Mt. Carmel, the Catechism of St. Pius X, the Catechism of Trent and Il Purgatorio right now. Just not interested in Fr. Martin’s ideas or his book. shrug
 
semper_catholicus said:
I’ll let Fr. Richard Heilman explain why I believe Fr. James Martin is spreading dangerous teachings:
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Fr. Heilman’s comparisons are rather offensive. My partner and I met in a church (not a Catholic Church, of course) and have been together for 20 years now. I wouldn’t consider our choice to be in that relationship to be the same as a choice to “click on a porn site and engage in masturbation.” Nor is it merely an act of “self-gratification” or a desire to “indulge in…sensual pleasures.” Fr. Heilman also says that the father in the Story of the Prodigal Son doesn’t “tell the son he is free to bring the prostitutes home with him.” When I bring my partner with me to my parents’ home, I wouldn’t consider that the same as bringing a “prostitute” home with me. People in the Catholic Church might think that same-sex relationships are a “sin”, but it doesn’t help their cause when they denigrate gay people by making some of the mean-spirited, shallow and dishonest comparisons that they do.
 
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And I bet you don’t see yourself as a judgemental person, yet your posts is full of judgment about Fr Martin.

Jim
 
Alex337 said:
“I also posted above regarding the “disorder” of homosexuality; I am yet to see any proof it is in fact disordered.”
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Have you given any proof that you know what IS ordered, so as to rightly discern “disorder”? I have not seen that authorizing proof from you yet. Without keen awareness of what is authentic and ordered - authentic, not merely having existence, not merely subjectively attractive or desired or pleasurable - but lacking keen knowledge of true value and the righteousness of it, how can a man discern disvalue, and disorder, and moral violation?
 
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Like yourself I’m free to express my opinions. I stand by my point. Fr. Martin wants to play both sides.
 
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