I honestly need advice...asap!

[Vivian42]

Seriously? Your superior intellect appears to be failing you today. You don’t need “approval” to get a group of friends together and collect clothes, food, or toiletries for the homeless. And if you have access to the internet, you have access to any number of charitable organizations that help provide clean water in Africa. I work at an elementary school, and we had a group of nine-year-olds organize a penny war for the school in order to earn money for such an organization. Another year, a group of 5th graders organized a “shave off”, where over 50 students, teachers, and parents shaved their heads in order to raise money for pediatric cancer research. By the time the event was over, they had raised over $9,000 for kids with cancer! If these little babies can come up with ways to volunteer and help others, surely a big, smart teenage girl like you can come up with something creative, especially if you look for like-minded kids to help you.

Did you even read what I posted about the situation my town is in? Seems like I’m not the only arrogant person here. Do you want me to repeat it for you? I, me, my person can’t do sh-t. Do you get that? I can do any of the things that I’ve listed in my previous answer, such as giving clothes or whatever to people in need around here. I do that whenever I have anything to give , but most of times …guess what! Even we struggle with money and stuff that we need to have a decent life. And I’m an only child (don’t even start with that bs) .
Oh, let me give you a little lesson here, teacher. Most people here get paid roughly 250 euros per month. The money children get every month (whoops, seems like I don’t know every single term in English. How shameful of me ) is…20 euro. How does that sound? How’s life there? Need a reality check? We would never , in our biggest dreams, raise that much money in such a short time. Especially when people rarely work together here. Everybody’s for themselves because there’s no way other way to survive. Believe me, if I had rich parents and I wouldn’t be so stressed to do very well in school in order to actually get a decent job when I grow up… I would wander around the internet and I would donate whatever amount of money to those organizations. But for the limited abilities I have I do what I’m capable of. And I already told you what I’m capable of doing, but you seem to ignore that. The system here is different from your system. Get that in your head.

By the way…Do you have any idea in what state our hospitals are? 4k or so hospitals versus 18k churches? How does that sound? People die like hell here because the hospitals aren’t well-kept, the viruses spread around and well , chaos! What was the last time you heard about somebody dying because of dirty equipment in hospitals? Or generally doctors that don’t give a cr-p about dying patients because they won’t give them extra money? Because…they , the doctors, are paid like they’re the scum of Earth. Applause!

You act like you’re omniscient. You’re not. You don’t know anything about how’s like to live here. I understand, your system is great, your life is great, your children are the best and the most intelligent - guess what, I don’t care! I do what I can do for my age and with my limited resources (not mine, my father’s - he’s the only one working). You picked on me because I don’t give up my already quite poor life when rich people do absolutely nothing? Why do rich people keep visiting different countries every summer and I stay home like a loser while others have fun? Please, oh please tell me how’s that remotely fair. It’s great for those that do donate …but are there that many? No.

You seem very annoyed by my arrogant tone in the original post - hope this is even worse. I’m arrogant for a reason. If I’m not, as I tried in my other posts, people like you step over boundaries. Hope you at least understand that. And…after all…is it that evil to be proud of your intellectual abilities? Seems like yours failed you now. I know what I’m talking about because I , ME, live in this country. You don’t. Full stop.

 

[Vivian42]

Very good and there’s nothing wrong with how you’re thinking. It is in fact, critical thinking, which is awesome to see.

You seem like a bright young woman. Just keep doing what you’re doing.

Rage and anger are normal to some degree at your age, it is to your credit that you recognize it and want to do something about it. Peer pressure is also normal for your age, as are feelings of rebellion. You have the choice, but suppression isn’t the answer. That is the road to depression. Instead focus on what is causing the feelings and work on turning your view to the positive. So some stranger sets you off, stop and think about why and then work on noticing something positive about the person. No matter how small it may be. This will take effort on your part. A positive outlook along with your intelligence will get you through.

As regards to men, well, men are men. That’s why I, personally, like them. All the things you are noticing about men, is normal! I once, years ago, said to my husband that so many men met in business settings were too flirtatious and seemed like all they ever thought was that every woman was there’s for the taking. He said, we can only hope! That made me laugh, but also realize, most men just like women and always have a hope going that all the women like them too. It’s how us humans are, again, it is normal. Just let the guys be who they are. Maybe someday you’ll come across one that you really do like back, and that guy will be lucky to have that hope fulfilled in you.

Thank you. Yes, I still have a little bit of hope…but I’m afraid that’ll be blown away quite fast. I listed the things about men (the rape and abusing stuff…gross) that make me cringe when thinking about them…and it kind of translates into my view of men. I am looking for a positive perspective and very happy to have found people that nicely deal with my teenager problems . I’ll try to amplify my patience, first of all, because that’s the first thing that makes me go off, and then my compassion. If my soul isn’t hard as a rock… maybe I’ll be able to tolerate more. Like this I just destroy myself. Then maybe my arrogance will go down if I realize the qualities every person has hidden inside of them. But some people seem to hit right in my sensitive spots… no wonder I react accordingly. Oh, and your husband seems like a guy with a nice sense of humour .

 

[Vivian42]

I found your comment prior to this one to be offensive. I don’t think telling an intelligent strong young woman that her happiness is contingent on meeting a boy is helpful. Perhaps it was in the 1950’s, but a lot has changed in the past 60 years.

At least you didn’t tell her that her place is in the kitchen.

yep, that’s how I interpreted it too.

 

[TaurusRex]

I found your comment prior to this one to be offensive. I don’t think telling an intelligent strong young woman that her happiness is contingent on meeting a boy is helpful. Perhaps it was in the 1950’s, but a lot has changed in the past 60 years.

At least you didn’t tell her that her place is in the kitchen.

Well we’re almost even I guess because I find your comment offensive
And I’d like for you to demonstrate to me where I’m according to you supposed to have told this 15 year old girl “that her happiness is contingent on meeting a boy”.

PS:
My meaning was clearly stated in my second post
And it was accepted by the 15 year old female thread starter;
So that should have been end of story concerning my posting
And I have no desire to continue posting in this thread;
So please refrain from dragging me into it in the future.

 

[WJeffrey]

Did you even read what I posted about the situation my town is in? Seems like I’m not the only arrogant person here. Do you want me to repeat it for you? I, me, my person can’t do sh-t. Do you get that? I can do any of the things that I’ve listed in my previous answer, such as giving clothes or whatever to people in need around here. I do that whenever I have anything to give , but most of times …guess what! Even we struggle with money and stuff that we need to have a decent life. And I’m an only child (don’t even start with that bs) .
Oh, let me give you a little lesson here, teacher. Most people here get paid roughly 250 euros per month. The money children get every month (whoops, seems like I don’t know every single term in English. How shameful of me ) is…20 euro. How does that sound? How’s life there? Need a reality check? We would never , in our biggest dreams, raise that much money in such a short time. Especially when people rarely work together here. Everybody’s for themselves because there’s no way other way to survive. Believe me, if I had rich parents and I wouldn’t be so stressed to do very well in school in order to actually get a decent job when I grow up… I would wander around the internet and I would donate whatever amount of money to those organizations. But for the limited abilities I have I do what I’m capable of. And I already told you what I’m capable of doing, but you seem to ignore that. The system here is different from your system. Get that in your head.

By the way…Do you have any idea in what state our hospitals are? 4k or so hospitals versus 18k churches? How does that sound? People die like hell here because the hospitals aren’t well-kept, the viruses spread around and well , chaos! What was the last time you heard about somebody dying because of dirty equipment in hospitals? Or generally doctors that don’t give a cr-p about dying patients because they won’t give them extra money? Because…they , the doctors, are paid like they’re the scum of Earth. Applause!

You act like you’re omniscient. You’re not. You don’t know anything about how’s like to live here. I understand, your system is great, your life is great, your children are the best and the most intelligent - guess what, I don’t care! I do what I can do for my age and with my limited resources (not mine, my father’s - he’s the only one working). You picked on me because I don’t give up my already quite poor life when rich people do absolutely nothing? Why do rich people keep visiting different countries every summer and I stay home like a loser while others have fun? Please, oh please tell me how’s that remotely fair. It’s great for those that do donate …but are there that many? No.

You seem very annoyed by my arrogant tone in the original post - hope this is even worse. I’m arrogant for a reason. If I’m not, as I tried in my other posts, people like you step over boundaries. Hope you at least understand that. And…after all…is it that evil to be proud of your intellectual abilities? Seems like yours failed you now. I know what I’m talking about because I , ME, live in this country. You don’t. Full stop.

Vivian, Many of the people on this site are from America. You didn’t tell us where you were from until later in the conversation. People were applying an American outlook to your problems. I assumed you were from Central or South America and had emigrated to the US until you told us you were European. Where you live is important to the advice being offered.

Maybe you should talk to one of your teachers in a subject you have a passion. They may be able to offer guidance ion how you can turn it into a career. More importantly, they may be able to put you in contact with people who have a similar interests.

In the US, we encourage young people to do things like beginning a club at school if they have interests and there are no clubs being offered at school If you have a subject that you enjoy like Science, Writing, Literature, or English conversation. You might want to ask a teacher to help you begin a club. You don’t need money to start one. You just need an announcement from a teacher or maybe your Principal/Headmaster asking students to meet afterschool to talk about the subject. Universities really like things like that, and if you organize it, you can tell schools that you began the club and were the President/leader.

Maybe you could find a job to try to earn some extra money. In the US, you have to wait until you are 16 to work. The laws in your country may be different. If you are not old enough, you can always do things like babysitting, yard work or tutoring other people. Showing the initiative to earn money is something that Universities like.

If the environment is important to you, you could always begin a recycling club or a beautification club. In the US we have both. Recycling is self explanatory. A beautification club would be cleaning parts of your town. In the US, we have an adopt a highway program where people are assigned a 1/2 mile and they pick up trash and do things to make it more beautiful. Maybe you could do it around your school.

If boys are the way you describe, maybe you should wait until you get to the University. In college you will find young men who appreciate you more for your mind and the type of person you are. One of the women on this site may be able to offer you guidance. As a minor, you shouldn’t be taking advice from a man.

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[WJeffrey]

Vivian, Many of the people on this site are from America. You didn’t tell us where you were from until later in the conversation. People were applying an American outlook to your problems. I assumed you were from Central or South America and had emigrated to the US until you told us you were European. Where you live is important to the advice being offered.

Maybe you should talk to one of your teachers in a subject you have a passion. They may be able to offer guidance ion how you can turn it into a career. More importantly, they may be able to put you in contact with people who have a similar interests.

In the US, we encourage young people to do things like beginning a club at school if they have interests and there are no clubs being offered at school If you have a subject that you enjoy like Science, Writing, Literature, or English conversation. You might want to ask a teacher to help you begin a club. You don’t need money to start one. You just need an announcement from a teacher or maybe your Principal/Headmaster asking students to meet afterschool to talk about the subject. Universities really like things like that, and if you organize it, you can tell schools that you began the club and were the President/leader.

Maybe you could find a job to try to earn some extra money. In the US, you have to wait until you are 16 to work. The laws in your country may be different. If you are not old enough, you can always do things like babysitting, yard work or tutoring other people. Showing the initiative to earn money is something that Universities like.

If the environment is important to you, you could always begin a recycling club or a beautification club. In the US we have both. Recycling is self explanatory. A beautification club would be cleaning parts of your town. In the US, we have an adopt a highway program where people are assigned a 1/2 mile and they pick up trash and do things to make it more beautiful. Maybe you could do it around your school.

If boys are the way you describe, maybe you should wait until you get to the University. In college you will find young men who appreciate you more for your mind and the type of person you are. One of the women on this site may be able to offer you guidance. As a minor, you shouldn’t be taking advice from a man.

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hope some of this may be helpful for you. Growing up is a hard thing to do no matter where you live. I tried to offer suggestions that will not cost money.

If you ask more specific questions, you may get better feedback. Most people on the site care and want the best for you. It is hard to offer advice if you don’t offer specificity about your circumstances. Advice for someone in Romania or the Czech Republic is very different than for someone in California. Also, you may find a woman from your country who would love to help you. Remember, she grew up where you grew up.

I don’t know if you discussed your problems with your parents or other relatives close to you. Maybe if you were honest with them, they might have some suggestions.

Keep the Faith! It will work out.

 

[WJeffrey]

Well we’re almost even I guess because I find your comment offensive
And I’d like for you to demonstrate to me where I’m according to you supposed to have told this 15 year old girl “that her happiness is contingent on meeting a boy”.

PS:
My meaning was clearly stated in my second post
And it was accepted by the 15 year old female thread starter;
So that should have been end of story concerning my posting
And I have no desire to continue posting in this thread;
So please refrain from dragging me into it in the future.

The OP interpreted it the same way I did. Perhaps you should ask yourself why.

 

[Allegra]

Did you even read what I posted about the situation my town is in? Seems like I’m not the only arrogant person here. Do you want me to repeat it for you? I, me, my person can’t do sh-t. Do you get that? I can do any of the things that I’ve listed in my previous answer, such as giving clothes or whatever to people in need around here. I do that whenever I have anything to give , but most of times …guess what! Even we struggle with money and stuff that we need to have a decent life. And I’m an only child (don’t even start with that bs) .
Oh, let me give you a little lesson here, teacher. Most people here get paid roughly 250 euros per month. The money children get every month (whoops, seems like I don’t know every single term in English. How shameful of me ) is…20 euro. How does that sound? How’s life there? Need a reality check? We would never , in our biggest dreams, raise that much money in such a short time. Especially when people rarely work together here. Everybody’s for themselves because there’s no way other way to survive. Believe me, if I had rich parents and I wouldn’t be so stressed to do very well in school in order to actually get a decent job when I grow up… I would wander around the internet and I would donate whatever amount of money to those organizations. But for the limited abilities I have I do what I’m capable of. And I already told you what I’m capable of doing, but you seem to ignore that. The system here is different from your system. Get that in your head.

By the way…Do you have any idea in what state our hospitals are? 4k or so hospitals versus 18k churches? How does that sound? People die like hell here because the hospitals aren’t well-kept, the viruses spread around and well , chaos! What was the last time you heard about somebody dying because of dirty equipment in hospitals? Or generally doctors that don’t give a cr-p about dying patients because they won’t give them extra money? Because…they , the doctors, are paid like they’re the scum of Earth. Applause!

You act like you’re omniscient. You’re not. You don’t know anything about how’s like to live here. I understand, your system is great, your life is great, your children are the best and the most intelligent - guess what, I don’t care! I do what I can do for my age and with my limited resources (not mine, my father’s - he’s the only one working). You picked on me because I don’t give up my already quite poor life when rich people do absolutely nothing? Why do rich people keep visiting different countries every summer and I stay home like a loser while others have fun? Please, oh please tell me how’s that remotely fair. It’s great for those that do donate …but are there that many? No.

You seem very annoyed by my arrogant tone in the original post - hope this is even worse. I’m arrogant for a reason. If I’m not, as I tried in my other posts, people like you step over boundaries. Hope you at least understand that. And…after all…is it that evil to be proud of your intellectual abilities? Seems like yours failed you now. I know what I’m talking about because I , ME, live in this country. You don’t. Full stop.

You’re just making excuses. Anyone who really wants to love others will always find a way to help, no matter how small. A person who is unmotivated to think of others will just make excuses. There are people in this world who have nothing more than a mud hut and two goats, but still find time to help those with less, in societies with no “system” whatsoever. Meanwhile, there are kids who have never had to worry about where to sleep or where they will get their next meal, who have access to education, but complain because someone else has more. Which type of person do you want to be? Who do you think is happier? The person who sees the fruits of their labors making the world a better place, or the person who mopes around fussing that someone else got to go on vacation and they didn’t? That’s probably why service was mentioned in the first place. There is tremendous benefit in it.

Arrogance is just a mask to hide insecurity, which is completely normal for a 15-year-old. There’s really no difference between being arrogant about intelligence and being vain about physical appearance. Both are gifts and if you don’t use them for good, they’re worthless. If you want to feel confidant and powerful, there’s no better way than to use your gifts to help others.

 

[Allegra]

Did you even read what I posted about the situation my town is in? Seems like I’m not the only arrogant person here. Do you want me to repeat it for you? I, me, my person can’t do sh-t. Do you get that? I can do any of the things that I’ve listed in my previous answer, such as giving clothes or whatever to people in need around here. I do that whenever I have anything to give , but most of times …guess what! Even we struggle with money and stuff that we need to have a decent life. And I’m an only child (don’t even start with that bs) .
Oh, let me give you a little lesson here, teacher. Most people here get paid roughly 250 euros per month. The money children get every month (whoops, seems like I don’t know every single term in English. How shameful of me ) is…20 euro. How does that sound? How’s life there? Need a reality check? We would never , in our biggest dreams, raise that much money in such a short time. Especially when people rarely work together here. Everybody’s for themselves because there’s no way other way to survive. Believe me, if I had rich parents and I wouldn’t be so stressed to do very well in school in order to actually get a decent job when I grow up… I would wander around the internet and I would donate whatever amount of money to those organizations. But for the limited abilities I have I do what I’m capable of. And I already told you what I’m capable of doing, but you seem to ignore that. The system here is different from your system. Get that in your head.

By the way…Do you have any idea in what state our hospitals are? 4k or so hospitals versus 18k churches? How does that sound? People die like hell here because the hospitals aren’t well-kept, the viruses spread around and well , chaos! What was the last time you heard about somebody dying because of dirty equipment in hospitals? Or generally doctors that don’t give a cr-p about dying patients because they won’t give them extra money? Because…they , the doctors, are paid like they’re the scum of Earth. Applause!

You act like you’re omniscient. You’re not. You don’t know anything about how’s like to live here. I understand, your system is great, your life is great, your children are the best and the most intelligent - guess what, I don’t care! I do what I can do for my age and with my limited resources (not mine, my father’s - he’s the only one working). You picked on me because I don’t give up my already quite poor life when rich people do absolutely nothing? Why do rich people keep visiting different countries every summer and I stay home like a loser while others have fun? Please, oh please tell me how’s that remotely fair. It’s great for those that do donate …but are there that many? No.

You seem very annoyed by my arrogant tone in the original post - hope this is even worse. I’m arrogant for a reason. If I’m not, as I tried in my other posts, people like you step over boundaries. Hope you at least understand that. And…after all…is it that evil to be proud of your intellectual abilities? Seems like yours failed you now. I know what I’m talking about because I , ME, live in this country. You don’t. Full stop.

PS- 20 Euro a month is between $5-6 a week, which is considered a reasonable allowance for children in the US. Many kids don’t get an allowance at all.

 

[TaurusRex]

Folks these first two posts pertain to my displeasure with the attitude of WJeffrey toward me:

Well we’re almost even I guess because I find your comment offensive
And I’d like for you to demonstrate to me where I’m according to you supposed to have told this 15 year old girl “that her happiness is contingent on meeting a boy”.

PS:
My meaning was clearly stated in my second post
And it was accepted by the 15 year old female thread starter;
So that should have been end of story concerning my posting
And I have no desire to continue posting in this thread;
So please refrain from dragging me into it in the future.

The OP interpreted it the same way I did. Perhaps you should ask yourself why.

This post that follows is my first response to Vivian:

Vivian,
how much free time you have is beyond me and as an academic student I sure didn’t have much …
hope you do well in school and can spare the time for personal female grooming;
However, I suspect you just haven’t met a fellow on whom you care to waste your time yet.

When you do, please don’t get discouraged because you’re still young and you’ll probably get plenty of opportunities to fine tune your personal appeal.

The following is Vivian’s first answer to my first post:

Re: I honestly need advice…asap!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivian42 showthread.php?p=13664816showthread.php?p=13664816
Oh wow, you really missed the point. Not sure if you meant to write this in an offensive manner but whatever. I do have enough time for myself, but I’d rather use it researching and doing all sorts of interesting things…especially in the summer. Summer is great mostly because you can explore a lot of your surroundings. I won’t go in detail about everything that’s of interest to me because there are too many things . And just for the record…I do very well in school. Should I put emphasis on “very well”?

As for being discouraged…I guess I am, but not because I think that a man won’t find me attractive. I am discouraged because I can’t comprehend their way of thinking. It is very disturbing to think that I should “fine tune” my personal appeal whereas he (or she, you never know ) is free to look like a monkey or any other hairy primate. See what’s my problem? Sometimes I’d love to just follow the norm and go on with my life in an ignorant state of mind…but then I get ticked off by those little little tiny things that affect my personal life. I see that you’re one of those people that have the mindset that I’m opposed to. Mind enlarging upon the subject? What do I do if I’m perfectly fine with my body in its natural state and I don’t want to do unnecessary changes to it?

I’m very thankful to everybody answering on this thread and I found some advice to be really useful. However, this is the only problem that hasn’t been resolved. So , I’m hoping that maybe you’ll enlighten me

The following is my clarification of my first post:

Vivian,
there was no offense intended in my response to you and I tried to avoid going into anything that I felt could be taken offensively;
However, this comment that follows by you I feel gave just cause for my response:
Quote:
I don’t like having such a bad impression of more than half of the human population…but what can I do? I feel trapped. If I do not submit myself to those ideas I’ll most likely never find a partner because things are getting tougher and tougher each year and almost always will be regarded as a weird person. Cuz I don’t like "normal " things
It certainly does seem to me that you’re interested in finding a partner from that comment
And so basically I just gave the standard response that you haven’t met the right fellow yet …
just tried to be amusing with my comment of “wasting your time trying to look more appealing to him”.

Anyway, I certainly do see from your response to me that we do seem to be on a different wave-length;
So adios senorita.

The following is Vivian’s acceptance of my explanation:

I understand. I thought you meant something like “you have too much time on your hands…bother yourself with school rather with stuff like these 'cause you’ll understand when you grow older” . Yes, I am interested in finding a partner. I don’t fancy the idea of being a lone wolf, although it isn’t really that bad of an idea. I’d still love to hear your side of the argument (as I already said what really bothers me), but it’s alright if you don’t want to. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

The following includes my explanation to Vivian and the comment directed at me by WJeffrey which I find offensive:

WJeffrey Re: I honestly need advice…asap!

Originally Posted by TaurusRex View Post
Vivian,
there was no offense intended in my response to you and I tried to avoid going into anything that I felt could be taken offensively;
However, this comment that follows by you I feel gave just cause for my response:

It certainly does seem to me that you’re interested in finding a partner from that comment
And so basically I just gave the standard response that you haven’t met the right fellow yet …
just tried to be amusing with my comment of “wasting your time trying to look more appealing to him”.

Anyway, I certainly do see from your response to me that we do seem to be on a different wave-length;
So adios senorita.

I found your comment prior to this one to be offensive. I don’t think telling an intelligent strong young woman that her happiness is contingent on meeting a boy is helpful. Perhaps it was in the 1950’s, but a lot has changed in the past 60 years.

At least you didn’t tell her that her place is in the kitchen.

 

[TaurusRex]

PS:

Keeping in mind that the young lady made the following comment:

I don’t want to lose half of the summer with shaving my d-amned legs

Folks, have I said anything to this 15 year old girl that should be or needs to be censored?

 

[RebeccaJ]

Thank you. Yes, I still have a little bit of hope…but I’m afraid that’ll be blown away quite fast. I listed the things about men (the rape and abusing stuff…gross) that make me cringe when thinking about them…and it kind of translates into my view of men. I am looking for a positive perspective and very happy to have found people that nicely deal with my teenager problems . I’ll try to amplify my patience, first of all, because that’s the first thing that makes me go off, and then my compassion. If my soul isn’t hard as a rock… maybe I’ll be able to tolerate more. Like this I just destroy myself. Then maybe my arrogance will go down if I realize the qualities every person has hidden inside of them. But some people seem to hit right in my sensitive spots… no wonder I react accordingly. Oh, and your husband seems like a guy with a nice sense of humour .

Sorry, I posted late last night and didn’t read through all of your posts yet.

Ok, I have a friend from Moldova, here in the US. If you are from a former Soviet country, well, I get from her the conditions, Her father paid some men off who threatened to kidnap her. Moldova happns to be the human trafficking center of Europe. Very frightening indeed!

She got out, to Kiev for university, then a student visa to here, she married an American, while at school and is now a naturalized citizen. She returned to Moldova to visit friends and family. Her former college friends now make a living selling things at flea markets. There are no jobs. Unemployment is high. Doing anything that requires government paperwork is a joke, as at the breakup of the Soviet Union, the entire population was made officially illiterate when the government declared Romanian to be the official language. While everyone speaks Russian and has to pay Romanian speakers to interact with their government. Such an area of lawlessness attracts the lawless, so if you are in a similar situation, it is statistically likely that there is a higher ratio of criminals to non-criminals. And you are wise to maintain your anonymity.

Anyway, I’m sure you realize that not all men are criminals. By a far majority of men in the world, are in fact, not criminals and I’m sure where you live there are nice boys. Looking at your male peers and finding nothing of interest is, again, normal. I too thought the same of the group of boys at my church, at your same age, Thought that if all the men in the world were like them, I’m not interested!

Did you imply you are an athlete? I live where the Olympics were held in 2002. Professional athletes are all around us now, continuing to train and compete at our Olympic venues. I’m not an athlete but a coworker who slides Skelton got us in for a ride down in the bobsled. Holy too much speed! It was a once in a lifetime experience for me. Best of luck at your trials. But also, it reveals your competitive nature, which is an asset. You have a lot going for you. Just keep thinking positive, I’m sure you know that in sports psychology, keeping positive is a must. Do the same for life!

 

[WJeffrey]

yep, that’s how I interpreted it too.

“Yep, That’s how I interpreted it too.” That sounds pretty conclusive to me T-Rex.

 

[WJeffrey]

PS:

Keeping in mind that the young lady made the following comment:

Folks, have I said anything to this 15 year old girl that should be or needs to be censored?

Did you read her quote where she agreed with me. Perhaps you should open your eyes.

 

[TaurusRex]

“Yep, That’s how I interpreted it too.” That sounds pretty conclusive to me T-Rex.

You are a first class: :whackadoo:

 

[TaurusRex]

Did you read her quote where she agreed with me. Perhaps you should open your eyes.

You :whackadoo:
she’s 15 trying to get attention and with an anger management problem …
she’ll agree with anyone taking her side.

Did I accuse her of acting like a boy in a girl’s body?

 

[WJeffrey]

You :whackadoo:
she’s 15 trying to get attention and with an anger management problem …
she’ll agree with anyone taking her side.

Did I accuse her of acting like a boy in a girl’s body?

So she didn’t agree because she is a minor? I wish I could read minds and hearts like you Feel free to stop digging anytime you want.

So should she be offended that you just called her a liar?

 

[TaurusRex]

So she didn’t agree because she is a minor? I wish I could read minds and hearts like you Feel free to stop digging anytime you want.

So should she be offended that you just called her a liar?

Vivian,
I totally understand your attitude because I feel the same way you do about some of your acquaintances about some of my acquaintances in this forum.
The world is full of jealous people and I suspect that WJeffrey just couldn’t stand that my saying to you that when you meet the right fellow you won’t mind “shaving your legs” was all that needed to be said to you.

If you want some more good advice,
Watch out for guys like him.

 

[RebeccaJ]

Vivian, if your sports program has a sports psychologist I encourage you to take advantage of their training. They are trained to help athletes improve performance, a main goal is to give the athlete the skills to control negative self-talk.

Also, you walking alone at night is a concern. Please find someone to walk with you and please carry pepper spray. If there is a self defense course available to you, enroll. Here they are often offered free by local government authorities.

Your well being, both physical and mental, are integral to your success. Don’t neglect it.

 

[WJeffrey]

Vivian,
I totally understand your attitude because I feel the same way you do about some of your acquaintances about some of my acquaintances in this forum.
The world is full of jealous people and I suspect that WJeffrey just couldn’t stand that my saying to you that when you meet the right fellow you won’t mind “shaving your legs” was all that needed to be said to you.

If you want some more good advice,
Watch out for guys like him.

Is it painful twisting yourself into a pretzel to justify your behavior? I think that Vivian is smart enough to consider the source when reading your comments. I know that I am. The New Jersey thing doesn’t work on people from Massachusetts.