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I am doing this power point presentation for my anthropology class…and I chose to do it on Catholicism. Now…I need help…I know there are differences between Eastern and Western , such as married clergy, different vestments worn for Mass/Liturgy. What other differences are there between Roman and Western??? Help please. Thanks. LOL
 
There’s probably a dozen threads on the topic- use the search! You should probably go to less informal sources when doing homework, by the way. 😉 GTG l8er! 😛
 
Thanks…but that wasn’t enough…I want more. LOL Hey…now I need help. I read on catholic answers about how the church does teach evolution, but I don’t get it. Can someone explain it to me? LOL In what way does the church approve evolution?
 
The Eastern Catholics have a more mystic approach to theology, where as Western Catholics are more scholastic.

Take, for instance, the Eastern vs. Western stance on Purgatory: In the Western Church Purgatory is strictly defined as a place of “purgation by suffering”, where as the Eastern Churches tend to lean more along the thought that it is a period of waiting until the effect of your sins on your soul has been removed. At least this is my (albeit fairly new) understanding of it, and if I am wrong (which I may be) I hope someone will correct me.

Here’s some more resources:

[CR Meyer Manpower Planner

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page](CR Meyer Manpower Planner http://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page)

And just in case you decide to attend a Divine Liturgy:

http://www.frederica.com/12-things/


If you can think of some specific questions you want answered, please ask and I’m very sure someone will answer.
 
Thanks…but that wasn’t enough…I want more. LOL Hey…now I need help. I read on catholic answers about how the church does teach evolution, but I don’t get it. Can someone explain it to me? LOL In what way does the church approve evolution?
A belief in evolution can be validly held if it is believed to be set in motion by God, and not instead of God.
 
The Eastern Catholics have a more mystic approach to theology, where as Western Catholics are more scholastic.

Take, for instance, the Eastern vs. Western stance on Purgatory: In the Western Church Purgatory is strictly defined as a place of “purgation by suffering”, where as the Eastern Churches tend to lean more along the thought that it is a period of waiting until the effect of your sins on your soul has been removed. At least this is my (albeit fairly new) understanding of it, and if I am wrong (which I may be) I hope someone will correct me.

Here’s some more resources:

[CR Meyer Manpower Planner

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page](CR Meyer Manpower Planner http://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page)

And just in case you decide to attend a Divine Liturgy:

http://www.frederica.com/12-things/


If you can think of some specific questions you want answered, please ask and I’m very sure someone will answer.
Ok…i read americancatholic.org. So let me get this straight. An Eastern Catholic Patriarch gets elected by his church? Does that mean his parishioners?

And the Metropolitan gets elected by the pope?
 
A belief in evolution can be validly held if it is believed to be set in motion by God, and not instead of God.
Wait, what?
  1. So we can believe we evolved from apes, if God made it that way?
  2. What other evolution stuff can we believe in?
 
Wait, what?
  1. So we can believe we evolved from apes, if God made it that way?
  2. What other evolution stuff can we believe in?
As long as you retain the beliefs that
(1) God created the universe
(2) Evolution works as part of God’s plan (not in place of it)
and
(3) At some point, God added a soul to a pair of those eventually-to-become-us anthropoids…

You’re pretty much safe. (Source: personal conversation with Rev. John Fearon, OP, ca 1987)

HH Ven. JP II reiterated in the early 1990’s that Catholics are neither required to believe in nor to reject evolution, but are required to believe that animals lack souls, people have them, and God creates each soul new.
 
As long as you retain the beliefs that
(1) God created the universe
(2) Evolution works as part of God’s plan (not in place of it)
and
(3) At some point, God added a soul to a pair of those eventually-to-become-us anthropoids…

You’re pretty much safe. (Source: personal conversation with Rev. John Fearon, OP, ca 1987)

HH Ven. JP II reiterated in the early 1990’s that Catholics are neither required to believe in nor to reject evolution, but are required to believe that animals lack souls, people have them, and God creates each soul new.
ohhh…ok…i think i am gonna put that in my power point then. thanks. LOL
 
Ok…i read americancatholic.org. So let me get this straight. An Eastern Catholic Patriarch gets elected by his church? Does that mean his parishioners?

And the Metropolitan gets elected by the pope?
Patriarch’s (the heads of sui juris churches) are elected by a synod (a council of Bishops led by the Pope) and can only be totally accepted with the approval of the Pope.

Metropolitan’s are heads of smaller sui juris Churches and are appointed by, and under total direct governance of, the Pope, and therefore have a limited amount of power; where as in larger sui juris (which means “self governing”) Churches the Patriarch has a wider use of power, and isn’t as closely governed as Metropolitan’s are. To what extent this power can be used, and is used, I do not know.

Again, if any of this information is wrong, please correct me; I’ve just started to learn about the Eastern Churches in the past couple months.
 
Hello,

According to me there is not much difference between Eastern and Western.

Thanks
Mike Wilson
 
Thanks…but that wasn’t enough…I want more. LOL Hey…now I need help. I read on catholic answers about how the church does teach evolution, but I don’t get it. Can someone explain it to me? LOL In what way does the church approve evolution?
that does not have much to do with the differences between Eastern and Latin rites within the Catholic Church. I don’t know what you mean by “Roman” and “Western”. the threads referenced early on answer your first question. This one should be researched in the apologetics forum since it is off your original topic. There are no differences in doctrine, the differences reside in their practice, language for the liturgy, disciplines regarding such things as married priests and so forth, not in the fundamental beliefs, which do not change.
 
that does not have much to do with the differences between Eastern and Latin rites within the Catholic Church. I don’t know what you mean by “Roman” and “Western”. the threads referenced early on answer your first question. This one should be researched in the apologetics forum since it is off your original topic. There are no differences in doctrine, the differences reside in their practice, language for the liturgy, disciplines regarding such things as married priests and so forth, not in the fundamental beliefs, which do not change.
Woops, I thought I wrote “Roman and Eastern” LOL
 
Patriarch’s (the heads of sui juris churches) are elected by a synod (a council of Bishops led by the Pope) and can only be totally accepted with the approval of the Pope.

Metropolitan’s are heads of smaller sui juris Churches and are appointed by, and under total direct governance of, the Pope, and therefore have a limited amount of power; where as in larger sui juris (which means “self governing”) Churches the Patriarch has a wider use of power, and isn’t as closely governed as Metropolitan’s are. To what extent this power can be used, and is used, I do not know.

Again, if any of this information is wrong, please correct me; I’ve just started to learn about the Eastern Churches in the past couple months.
Actually, not all metropolitans are heads of Sui Iuris churches. Metropolitan is the eastern norm for contracting “Metropolitan Archbishop”; the western norm is to contract it to Archbishop. The dozens of Ukrainian metropolitans, for example, do not head churches sui iuris.

Funtionally, the grades of bishop:
Pope
Eastern Patriarchs of Sui Iuris Churches
Western Patriarchs
Primatial Metropolitans of Sui Iuris Churches
Archbishop, Metropolitan
Bishop Eparch
Auxiliary Bishop, Auxiliary Archbishop

Of these, only auxiliary bishops and Auxiliary Archbishops lack vote in council/synod
With a handful of latin-rite exceptions, almost all archbishops & metropolitans head an ecclesiastical province consisting of their archdiocese and its suffragan dioceses.

Western patriarchs are archbishops with very important povinces.

Eastern Patriarchs have metropolitans and bishops both as suffragans

Major Archibishops are functionally patriarchs, but do not have the honorifics. (Well, HB Lubomyr has been accorded them by his own synod, and most of the church calls him Patriarch, even tho technically he’s “just” a major archbishop.)
 
Actually, not all metropolitans are heads of Sui Iuris churches. Metropolitan is the eastern norm for contracting “Metropolitan Archbishop”; the western norm is to contract it to Archbishop. The dozens of Ukrainian metropolitans, for example, do not head churches sui iuris.

Funtionally, the grades of bishop:
Pope
Eastern Patriarchs of Sui Iuris Churches
Western Patriarchs
Primatial Metropolitans of Sui Iuris Churches
Archbishop, Metropolitan
Bishop Eparch
Auxiliary Bishop, Auxiliary Archbishop

Of these, only auxiliary bishops and Auxiliary Archbishops lack vote in council/synod
With a handful of latin-rite exceptions, almost all archbishops & metropolitans head an ecclesiastical province consisting of their archdiocese and its suffragan dioceses.

Western patriarchs are archbishops with very important povinces.

Eastern Patriarchs have metropolitans and bishops both as suffragans

Major Archibishops are functionally patriarchs, but do not have the honorifics. (Well, HB Lubomyr has been accorded them by his own synod, and most of the church calls him Patriarch, even tho technically he’s “just” a major archbishop.)
Thanks for the clarification 👍
 
Patriarch’s (the heads of sui juris churches) are elected by a synod (a council of Bishops led by the Pope) and can only be totally accepted with the approval of the Pope.
Just a correction, the elected Patriarch does not require approval from the Pope to assume the See. It is only after he has already become Patriarch that the Pope is notified, and then it is not for approval but as a matter of due notice and respect; such notifications are also sent to the other Eastern Catholic Patriarchs.

Here’s the link to the Canon in question:

intratext.com/IXT/ENG1199/_P24.HTM

Peace and God bless!
 
Wait, what?
  1. So we can believe we evolved from apes, if God made it that way?
  2. What other evolution stuff can we believe in?
No! We did not evolve from apes, but we may have had a common ancestor. Evolution is acceptable of if it is understood that it is a cause of God and of His plan. The Creation in Genesis is an analogy and can be labeled as scholastic myth. Who cannot say that God allowed the evolution of man and then infused a soul in him when he was fully evolved in his present form? Remember, nothing is impossible with God and we do not know His plan. Therefore, with this in mind, evolution can be acceptable.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom Aleichem
 
No! We did not evolve from apes, but we may have had a common ancestor. Evolution is acceptable of if it is understood that it is a cause of God and of His plan. The Creation in Genesis is an analogy and can be labeled as scholastic myth. Who cannot say that God allowed the evolution of man and then infused a soul in him when he was fully evolved in his present form? Remember, nothing is impossible with God and we do not know His plan. Therefore, with this in mind, evolution can be acceptable.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom Aleichem
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The question is even if we take the creation account as allegorical, there is the problem of death.  It did not exist before the fall. That seems to be a central theme in Eastern thought.  Why did Adam have to "tend" the garden before decay and weeds?  Early fathers relegated this to allegory saying it meant prayer, or tending to his soul.
But before the fall, there was no death, decay, entropy, no mechanism for evolution until after the transgression. Maybe the innocence and the fall are also an allegory, but as to what, I have not personally heard or read.
 
The question is even if we take the creation account as allegorical, there is the problem of death. It did not exist before the fall. That seems to be a central theme in Eastern thought. Why did Adam have to “tend” the garden before decay and weeds? Early fathers relegated this to allegory saying it meant prayer, or tending to his soul.

But before the fall, there was no death, decay, entropy, no mechanism for evolution until after the transgression. Maybe the innocence and the fall are also an allegory, but as to what, I have not personally heard or read.
Actually, death, decay, etc. is only an assumption that there was none. Some means of providing/showing guilt had to be in evidence to explain man’s present position. Although I accept and believe as actual the scripture’s description of God’s seven day creation ( “a thousand years is but one day to the Lord…”, etc. ) the remainder is most likely myth so as to give some credence to man’s existence to the people of that day.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom Aleichem
 
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