I need to show another parish that my marriage is valid/sacramental

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OK, I called my current parish and asked the (secretary I guess) lady how I could get a sponsor certificate, and she had no idea what I was talking about. I told her about my friend asking me to be godmother, and that it’s something I get from my pastor showing I’m eligible to be a godmother. She said that he doesn’t do that. ??

So I told her the reason I was asking was because this parish where the baptism is taking place has a misunderstanding about the validity of my marriage, I’ve only been Catholic for 3 months, I got married as a Protestant, my marriage is valid, my former pastor knew this when he received me into the church, etc.

Her suggestion was to call the parish doing the baptism and ask what the issue is with my marriage.

But yeah, she had never heard of getting a sponsor certificate from the pastor…
 
My friend and I are going to go talk to the Deacon at the parish where the Baptism is going to be on March 23rd. Whoever he talked to on the phone said that we could do that but that was the soonest we could talk to him…

Hopefully he understands this better.
 
But yeah, she had never heard of getting a sponsor certificate from the pastor…
Frankly, I’d never heard of it either until 6 months ago. There have been too many problems with baptismal and confirmation sponsor being in irregular situation (or not even Catholic!) and so our diocese started the form thing last year. And even then it’s not a formal requirement in our diocese. It’s mainly for situations where the sponsors are unknown to the parish. If the priest personally knows the sponsor, we don’t even do the form, obviously since he’d be filling it out and sending it to himself. My point being, it’s not something that is mandatory…

But, in our diocese it is the parents of the child who get the blank certificate and give it to the prospective sponsor. That person’s priest then fills it out, signs it, and puts the parish seal on it… and then returns it to the parish that asked for the information.

I am not surprised your parish knows nothing of it, as it seems to be a new thing and not used everywhere.
 
Frankly, I’d never heard of it either until 6 months ago. There have been too many problems with baptismal and confirmation sponsor being in irregular situation (or not even Catholic!) and so our diocese started the form thing last year. And even then it’s not a formal requirement in our diocese. It’s mainly for situations where the sponsors are unknown to the parish. If the priest personally knows the sponsor, we don’t even do the form, obviously since he’d be filling it out and sending it to himself. My point being, it’s not something that is mandatory…

But, in our diocese it is the parents of the child who get the blank certificate and give it to the prospective sponsor. That person’s priest then fills it out, signs it, and puts the parish seal on it… and then returns it to the parish that asked for the information.

I am not surprised your parish knows nothing of it, as it seems to be a new thing and not used everywhere.
Hmmm, I see. I was just surprised that she had no idea what I was talking about because Fr. David seemed very certain that this was a very common thing in all parishes. No offense or anything Fr., maybe they are just much more common in your area?
 
OK, I called my current parish and asked the (secretary I guess) lady how I could get a sponsor certificate, and she had no idea what I was talking about. I told her about my friend asking me to be godmother, and that it’s something I get from my pastor showing I’m eligible to be a godmother. She said that he doesn’t do that. ??

So I told her the reason I was asking was because this parish where the baptism is taking place has a misunderstanding about the validity of my marriage, I’ve only been Catholic for 3 months, I got married as a Protestant, my marriage is valid, my former pastor knew this when he received me into the church, etc.

Her suggestion was to call the parish doing the baptism and ask what the issue is with my marriage.

But yeah, she had never heard of getting a sponsor certificate from the pastor…
Please believe me here.

Talk to your current pastor.

Do not go to someone else.
Do not ask the “lady who answers the phone”

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Talk to your current pastor.
(just a little light humor there, no offense)

Talk to your current pastor. Please believe me. I really do know how these things work.

A few posts back you mentioned that your pastor sometimes mentions sponsor certificates in his homilies–post #20. Well, if he mentions writing them, is that not a good indication that he knows what they are and that he does in fact fill them out?

Please believe me that all the time you are spending talking to other people is just a waste of your own time and efforts–as you are unfortunately learning. The one person who can help you is your current pastor.
 
Please believe me here.

Talk to your current pastor.

Do not go to someone else.
Do not ask the “lady who answers the phone”

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Talk to your current pastor.
(just a little light humor there, no offense)

Talk to your current pastor. Please believe me. I really do know how these things work.

A few posts back you mentioned that your pastor sometimes mentions sponsor certificates in his homilies–post #20. Well, if he mentions writing them, is that not a good indication that he knows what they are and that he does in fact fill them out?

Please believe me that all the time you are spending talking to other people is just a waste of your own time and efforts–as you are unfortunately learning. The one person who can help you is your current pastor.
Believe Father (also, it sounds as if you reached some woefully untrained person answering the phone.)
 
Please believe me here.

Talk to your current pastor.

Do not go to someone else.
Do not ask the “lady who answers the phone”

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Talk to your current pastor.
(just a little light humor there, no offense)

Talk to your current pastor. Please believe me. I really do know how these things work.

A few posts back you mentioned that your pastor sometimes mentions sponsor certificates in his homilies–post #20. Well, if he mentions writing them, is that not a good indication that he knows what they are and that he does in fact fill them out?

Please believe me that all the time you are spending talking to other people is just a waste of your own time and efforts–as you are unfortunately learning. The one person who can help you is your current pastor.
ok, I guess I should just physically go to the parish myself and say I would like to talk to the pastor, not about what. The secretary just answered the phone when I called so I told her the reason I was calling.

ha, and I honestly forgot that I just posted about him talking about sponsor certificates. I don’t remember if he used that specific term, or was just talking about people telling him they wanted to be sponsors.

But I will find out when I go talk to him.
 
ok, I guess I should just physically go to the parish myself and say I would like to talk to the pastor…
Nunc dimittis servum tuum, Domine,
secundum verbum tuum in pace:
Quia viderunt oculi mei salutare tuum…

🙂
 
Nunc dimittis servum tuum, Domine,
secundum verbum tuum in pace:
Quia viderunt oculi mei salutare tuum…

🙂
:)I called and left him a voicemail (on HIS voicemail, not the secretary’s :)) so hopefully he calls me back soon!
 
Simple answer is have your current pastor write a letter that states you are a Catholic in good standing who has received the sacraments of initition (baptism, eucharist, confirmation), that you are sacramentally married, and that you regularly attend Sunday Mass. Have him sign it and put the parish seal on it.

That should be enough for the church of baptism.
 
But surely he will understand since I have only been registered here for 3 months. And for that matter, only been Catholic for 3 months.
That’s the advantage of using the budget envelopes. Even if all you do is put a dollar in it, its then recorded that you were at Mass.
 
I’m so frustrated I feel like I’m going to cry. Even though I left a voicemail on his personal extension about needing to talk to him about getting a sponsor certificate, the administrative assistant lady called me back (different lady than the one I talked to this morning) saying that all Father can do is sign a letter saying I’m a registered parishioner at the parish. I told her, I need something showing I have my sacraments, not a letter that I am registered there. She said they can’t do that since I didn’t have my sacraments there.

Even when I try to contact the priest directly, someone else calls me back. What am I supposed to do? Barge into his office? I don’t even know where it is.
 
I’m so frustrated I feel like I’m going to cry. Even though I left a voicemail on his personal extension about needing to talk to him about getting a sponsor certificate, the administrative assistant lady called me back (different lady than the one I talked to this morning) saying that all Father can do is sign a letter saying I’m a registered parishioner at the parish. I told her, I need something showing I have my sacraments, not a letter that I am registered there. She said they can’t do that since I didn’t have my sacraments there.

Even when I try to contact the priest directly, someone else calls me back. What am I supposed to do? Barge into his office? I don’t even know where it is.
Try this:

Take what I type at the end here and cut-and-paste it using a word processor. Add the details and print it out.

Take it to your own proper pastor and put it in his hand. In his hand. Do not mail it. Do not put it in his inbox. Do not slide it under his door. Do not give it to the secretary. Do not give it to the administrative assistant. Do not give it to the usher. Do not give it to the altar boy. Do not give it to the guy mowing the lawn. Put it in the hand of your own proper pastor. Put it in his hand.

Do not call on the phone and speak to the secretary or the administrative assistant or anyone else.

See him --your own proper pastor-- after Mass (NOT before) if you need to. Make sure you have a pen handy in case he doesn’t have one.

When you do this, say to him in these or similar words:
“Father: I have been asked to be a sponsor for [name and relationship]. Since the baptism is not at this parish, I need to provide a sponsor certificate to the pastor where the baptism is taking place. Yes, it is a Catholic parish, St. so-and-so, you might know it or you might know the pastor there. In any case, would you mind kindly signing this so that I can send it to them? I would really appreciate it. And by the way, if you don’t know Father so-and-so at that other parish, would you mind putting the parish seal on this, just to be on the safe side?”

This is how it should read:

This is to certify that
[name]
is a practicing Catholic in good standing at
[parish name] in [insert parish city]
and is qualified to be a sponsor
for the Sacrament of Baptism for
[insert infants name]
at the parish of
[insert baptismal parish]

[insert blank line for signature]
[insert blank line for printed name of priest]
given this [blank} day of [blank] 2012

Once you have it, get that to the pastor of the place of Baptism. Not the parish secretary. Not the lady who answers the phone. Not the usher or the altar boy or the little old lady selling raffle tickets for the quilted pillows. Get it to the pastor of the place where the baptism is going to happen.

Do NOT change the wording as I’ve typed it here. Do not add lines that say you were baptised on such a date, or when you were confirmed or what your marital status is or anything else. Do it just as written. If you try to add something else other than what I’ve typed it won’t work. Other than filling in the blanks, do not make any changes.

That’s about all I can do here on this end.

If you do it that way, it should work out.
If you don’t put it in the hand of your own proper pastor, and ask him to sign it, all I can say is that I tried.

I do wish you the best.
I hope this works out for you. Truly I do.
 
And after that, call the Diocese and tell them that someone in the parish office needs a bit of training!
 
Try this:

Take what I type at the end here and cut-and-paste it using a word processor. Add the details and print it out.

Take it to your own proper pastor and put it in his hand. In his hand. Do not mail it. Do not put it in his inbox. Do not slide it under his door. Do not give it to the secretary. Do not give it to the administrative assistant. Do not give it to the usher. Do not give it to the altar boy. Do not give it to the guy mowing the lawn. Put it in the hand of your own proper pastor. Put it in his hand.

Do not call on the phone and speak to the secretary or the administrative assistant or anyone else.

See him --your own proper pastor-- after Mass (NOT before) if you need to. Make sure you have a pen handy in case he doesn’t have one.

When you do this, say to him in these or similar words:
“Father: I have been asked to be a sponsor for [name and relationship]. Since the baptism is not at this parish, I need to provide a sponsor certificate to the pastor where the baptism is taking place. Yes, it is a Catholic parish, St. so-and-so, you might know it or you might know the pastor there. In any case, would you mind kindly signing this so that I can send it to them? I would really appreciate it. And by the way, if you don’t know Father so-and-so at that other parish, would you mind putting the parish seal on this, just to be on the safe side?”

This is how it should read:

This is to certify that
[name]
is a practicing Catholic in good standing at
[parish name] in [insert parish city]
and is qualified to be a sponsor
for the Sacrament of Baptism for
[insert infants name]
at the parish of
[insert baptismal parish]

[insert blank line for signature]
[insert blank line for printed name of priest]
given this [blank} day of [blank] 2012

Once you have it, get that to the pastor of the place of Baptism. Not the parish secretary. Not the lady who answers the phone. Not the usher or the altar boy or the little old lady selling raffle tickets for the quilted pillows. Get it to the pastor of the place where the baptism is going to happen.

Do NOT change the wording as I’ve typed it here. Do not add lines that say you were baptised on such a date, or when you were confirmed or what your marital status is or anything else. Do it just as written. If you try to add something else other than what I’ve typed it won’t work. Other than filling in the blanks, do not make any changes.

That’s about all I can do here on this end.

If you do it that way, it should work out.
If you don’t put it in the hand of your own proper pastor, and ask him to sign it, all I can say is that I tried.

I do wish you the best.
I hope this works out for you. Truly I do.
:clapping:
God bless you, Father.
 
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