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I am a proud church member. I have come a long way for my faith. I guess that’s why I’m proud. I try to not divide the church. I work hard at keeping peace with all the different personalities and customs in my church. That said, this includes the peace I try to keep with my priest. I need to get some help from you. How do we deal with the clergy in the situation below?

Situation:

Sometimes, I write to the priest and he replies acknowledging my request. Then time flies and he forgets to do something. For example, I ask him to contribute some ideas for something and he accepts to do it. However, he forgets to do it. This happens often. I have to remind him either by phone or in person. He tells me that he’s very busy, but accepts to help out with something anyhow. When I forget something, I usually work hard at improving it so not to bother everyone. I find it childish to have to remind him of things that he agreed to. It’s insulting sometimes. Sometimes, there’s no common sense. I feel like giving up and I’m starting to take this personally. He will do other things in a charitable way, but when it comes to remembering things, he’s very absent-minded. I need to find another way to communicate with this person. I told him and he agreed to this, that if I don’t get his e-mail reply by a certain day, I will call his office to relay the message verbally. He accepted this. However, even sometimes I do this and weeks go by and he forgets to do something. I have to contact him at his office again. It took 3 or maybe 4 times to get him to reply to a message I sent. I had to write to him, call him, call him again and leave a message with his secretary. I gave him time to respond, but he forgot so easily. He’s in his mid 60’s, so that might explain it.

How can I help this person remember things that concern church projects and stuff? Do priests have hectic jobs to that point? I’m a teacher and know that when one works with others, one has to be professional and socially aware of the communication skills that one needs to work harmoniously with the others. Priests sometimes give off the impression that they’re not connected to the world and thus, give the impression that they want nothing to do with us.

Therefore, again, how can I help my priest remember things that he agrees to and things that concern projects where I’m implicated? I want to improve this relationship because it’s upsetting and insulting. People would start thinking that there are other problems in this person’s life and they would probably take another direction.

Anyhow, can you help me find a smoother way of doing things, so that I too can rest and not have to “run” after this priest in order to get something done when he accepts to help?

I don’t want to divide the church or cause any quarrel, but rather find a better way of dealing with the clergy. They don’t much pratical experience those people.

Thanks,
Templum
 
Hi,

I am a proud church member. I have come a long way for my faith. I guess that’s why I’m proud. I try to not divide the church. I work hard at keeping peace with all the different personalities and customs in my church. That said, this includes the peace I try to keep with my priest. I need to get some help from you. How do we deal with the clergy in the situation below?

Situation:

Sometimes, I write to the priest and he replies acknowledging my request. Then time flies and he forgets to do something. For example, I ask him to contribute some ideas for something and he accepts to do it. However, he forgets to do it. This happens often. I have to remind him either by phone or in person. He tells me that he’s very busy, but accepts to help out with something anyhow. When I forget something, I usually work hard at improving it so not to bother everyone. I find it childish to have to remind him of things that he agreed to. It’s insulting sometimes. Sometimes, there’s no common sense. I feel like giving up and I’m starting to take this personally. He will do other things in a charitable way, but when it comes to remembering things, he’s very absent-minded. I need to find another way to communicate with this person. I told him and he agreed to this, that if I don’t get his e-mail reply by a certain day, I will call his office to relay the message verbally. He accepted this. However, even sometimes I do this and weeks go by and he forgets to do something. I have to contact him at his office again. It took 3 or maybe 4 times to get him to reply to a message I sent. I had to write to him, call him, call him again and leave a message with his secretary. I gave him time to respond, but he forgot so easily. He’s in his mid 60’s, so that might explain it.

How can I help this person remember things that concern church projects and stuff? Do priests have hectic jobs to that point? I’m a teacher and know that when one works with others, one has to be professional and socially aware of the communication skills that one needs to work harmoniously with the others. Priests sometimes give off the impression that they’re not connected to the world and thus, give the impression that they want nothing to do with us.

Therefore, again, how can I help my priest remember things that he agrees to and things that concern projects where I’m implicated? I want to improve this relationship because it’s upsetting and insulting. People would start thinking that there are other problems in this person’s life and they would probably take another direction.

Anyhow, can you help me find a smoother way of doing things, so that I too can rest and not have to “run” after this priest in order to get something done when he accepts to help?

I don’t want to divide the church or cause any quarrel, but rather find a better way of dealing with the clergy. They don’t much pratical experience those people.

Thanks,
Templum
just a thought. mybe he isnt forgetting, maybe he doesnt want to do what your suggesting and is too weak to say so…
is there another priest you can talk to?
 
He may very well be forgetful, and maybe not on purpose, so please don’t take it personally. (Early signs of dementia versus with the shortage of priests he may be overwhelmed?) Be charitable in your thoughts. Put on the mind of Christ. 🙂

I’d also stop asking him and ask another priest or deacon to help you. He may even ask you later on why you never speak to or ask him to help you anymore. 😉

God bless.

D.
 
Maybe you could structure your requests as requests for permission, rather than action. If anyone else can accomplish whatever it is, you just need his permission. That way if he acknowledges you, you have license to go forward with your plan. If you need him personally, then that’s another story.

Alan
 
Like a few others have mentioned, there could be several good reasons he does not respond, and they may be unconnected to his desire to help you. I have a group of people at work that are very difficult to engage (and so as not to be insulting, I won’t mention their role). But over the years, I have found that if I offer several suggestions to them, and they only need to pick one from a few choices, I am much more likely to get their feedback. Basically, you are doing the work upfront and offering them a multiple choice question, but because it is easier to pick from something already at hand, they will respond. Of course, this does work in every circumstance, but I have found I get more response that way. Sometimes I purposefully offer a silly choice, and when they look it over and certainly pick it out, I will get to interact with them on an answer or solution. I hope that might help.
 
It seems clear to me that, since it keeps happening over and over, the priest really does not have time to respond to your requests. For some reason, he is not able to say no. Try to find ways to reduce the number of requests you make of him, especially if it’s for something that would be time-consuming or require followup. If there’s a quick question he can take care of right away, go ahead with it. Just some thoughts.

Betsy
 
exercise charity and assume the best possible reasons why the priest does not answer each and every one of your requests promptly. you say you do not want do “divide the church” I am not sure what that means. Do you mean you have some position, such as member of the pastoral council, and so are one of those the priest has chosen to advise him? Or are active in another ministry that sometimes breeds conflicts (human nature being what it is)?

If you mean you have gained a repuation as “trouble-maker” even if it is unjustified, you probably should be especially careful about choosing which issues are truly legitimate and which are matters of personal preference.

You probably also would be wise to go to the person the priest has delegate with authority over a certain area. For instance here, there are always complaints about CCD, sacramental prep etc. and the pastor will tell the secretary to direct all such complaints to me. He trusts me to bring them to him if there is a pastoral need, or it is beyond my competence (a common occurance). The same with the other organizations and apostolates. The person with a legitimate complaint will get a faster resolution if he “goes through channels”. It seems to be this way in most large parishes.

and lastly, if the issue is something the priest has addressed before, he probably will not take further action because he does not see the need, despite your new information. He is after all the best judge of priorities for the parish. YOu might find in the future you get a better response if you limit your calls to real serious issues.
 
Templum, I think one thing that you need to keep in mind, and the thing I’m surprised that no one has mentioned yet, is how busy your priest may be with other things.

Priests have so much more on their plates nowadays than ever before. When he states to you that he is very busy, don’t take it as an insult or think that he’s blowing you off, take him at his word. for instance, the priest at my parish which isn’t really that big has daily Mass, meetings with couples for marriages, baptisms, funerals, etc.

Most priests are busy with all of these things, as well as, visiting sick people in the hospital, visiting veterans homes and visiting other people that are confined to their homes but wish to see a priest. Priests attend Church Jamboree meetings, CCD meetings, etc. This is not even mentioning celebrating and preparing the church for multiple Masses on Sundays, Saturday evening Mass, Confession on Saturdays and meeting some people by request if they call for a special Confession time. This is also not mentioning Eucharistic Adoration and preparing the Church for that.

A priest also needs his own quiet time for prayer and reflection, and has a Homily to write once a week, along with a message for all of the parishioners in the bulletin.

In may parishes, priests are also responsible for meeting with the financial secretary multiple times every week and going over all of the bills, and meeting with construction workers, plumbers, HVAC techs, etc, when the church is in need of repairs of any kind.

Aren’t there other people on certain boards in your Church that you can coordinate with if your priest isn’t available? Have you considered contacting the local Knights Of Columbus council in your area? They are more than happy to get involved and help, and actually do much more behind the scenes work than most people are aware of.
 
Hi Templum
From a rather cool South Africa, Perhaps if you were to list the questions you would like to have an answer to, then perhaps we can help you, and take the load off the back of the Priest.
Love in Christ
Br Barry SFO:shrug:
 
Templum, I think one thing that you need to keep in mind, and the thing I’m surprised that no one has mentioned yet, is how busy your priest may be with other things.

Priests have so much more on their plates nowadays than ever before. When he states to you that he is very busy, don’t take it as an insult or think that he’s blowing you off, take him at his word. for instance, the priest at my parish which isn’t really that big has daily Mass, meetings with couples for marriages, baptisms, funerals, etc.

Most priests are busy with all of these things, as well as, visiting sick people in the hospital, visiting veterans homes and visiting other people that are confined to their homes but wish to see a priest. Priests attend Church Jamboree meetings, CCD meetings, etc. This is not even mentioning celebrating and preparing the church for multiple Masses on Sundays, Saturday evening Mass, Confession on Saturdays and meeting some people by request if they call for a special Confession time. This is also not mentioning Eucharistic Adoration and preparing the Church for that.

A priest also needs his own quiet time for prayer and reflection, and has a Homily to write once a week, along with a message for all of the parishioners in the bulletin.

In may parishes, priests are also responsible for meeting with the financial secretary multiple times every week and going over all of the bills, and meeting with construction workers, plumbers, HVAC techs, etc, when the church is in need of repairs of any kind.

Aren’t there other people on certain boards in your Church that you can coordinate with if your priest isn’t available? Have you considered contacting the local Knights Of Columbus council in your area? They are more than happy to get involved and help, and actually do much more behind the scenes work than most people are aware of.
Saintwannabe is right templum, priests are VERY busy people, and they can only do so much in 1 day. The bills must be paid, and all the other things that saintwannabe describes are of the priests job. Have patience with him. He is not blowing you off, and DO ask for the help of the DRE and others in the church on church counsel. They can get you the help you need on matters such as you have described.
 
Templum

I agree entirely with Saintwannebe, Priests are very busy people and that is one of the reasons they have members of the congregation who assist him in handling queries. and the office routine.We here in the Southern Tip of Africa have a shortage of priests and every effort is being done to solve the problem. I also have problems with memory from time to time as I am now 73 and its part of life, you have to do the best you can to answer all the questions you some times receive. What I find is you have to have a large diary, and to log every thing in it that has happened today, Perhaps your priest needs a large diary and some personal help from you which will create a better relationships between yourself and the Priest…

Hadedah:)👍
 
Hi,

I want to thank you for your responses. I got some ideas from you all. Now, by the way, when I said that I didn’t want to divide the church, I meant that I didn’t want to create conflict with its members and in this case, with my priest. I’m not at all a trouble-maker and I don’t want to become one, that’s all. I just want to work professionally with its members, so to keep God’s temple up! I just wanted some ideas on how to cope with a priest…and you all gave me some fine ideas.

Thanks,
Templum
 
Hi Templum,

Very pleased that we all were able to help you,
God Bless
Br. Barry SFO:thumbsup:
 
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