I never had communion like that before

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I went to the Polish mass last night and they like to use that dish that they hold under your chin (cannot think what it is called) whilst you kneel, I have done this a few times but this one time the priest dipped half the body into the blood before giving it to me. What’s that called and is that an old school way of doing things?
 
Communion by intinction has quite a checkered history: being banned, then reintroduced, then banned again, and so on. If you follow the link to the old Catholic Encyclopedia, scroll down to the paragraph beginning with the words:

(5) The practice of the intinctio Panis ,

http://newadvent.com/cathen/04175a.htm
 
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The small dish placed under the chin while receiving communion is called a Patten.
 
but this one time the priest dipped half the body into the blood before giving it to me
As others have mentioned it is intinction, and it is standard practice for several Eastern Catholic churches including Maronites, Melkites and a few others.
 
I don’t know how old you are, but when I was young, Roman Catholics in USA typically didn’t receive Holy Communion in two forms except rarely on special occasions, and when they did, it was done by intinction. A few years later they began to let people receive the Precious Blood by drinking from the chalice. It’s still fairly common at Latin Rite Mass in some European countries, and as others mentioned it is standard practice at many Eastern Catholic churches.
 
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It’s called intinction. It is perfectly valid, although it’s not something you’d traditionally see in the western Church. You would not see it in the Extraordinary Form, for instance.

It’s not practiced all that often, at least where I’m from, but I quite like it.
 
During a standard N.O mass I once saw a member of the laity (a young female) finger the Eucharist (alot) walk up to the Chalice and proceed to dip him into his blood, herself.

I found it odd at the time, and even more odd that the “Extraordinary Eucharistic Misnister” or whatever they are called, once realising her intentions, actually seemed to hold the chalice out for her to do this. I assumed maybe she had a Cold if was ill and didn’t want to drink from the cup.

I’m quite shocked finding out only a priest can do this. Where did she get off doing something like that herself?
 
Quite a few self-intinct in our parish. Only minute fraction of the total, though. I think mainly it’s for hygiene reasons. Certainly , as an EMHC I am not going to get into a fight over it if they come to me. The priest knows what’s going on and it’s up to him to correct it.
 
Quite a few self-intinct in our parish. Only minute fraction of the total, though. I think mainly it’s for hygiene reasons. Certainly , as an EMHC I am not going to get into a fight over it if they come to me. The priest knows what’s going on and it’s up to him to correct it.
It is really the pastor’s responsibility to educate the faithful that this practice is not permitted. (And would probably be best for him to advise you what to do – short of getting into a fight – if you are approached by a member of the faithful who seems intent to do so)

Administration by intinction was not uncommon in my youth, during the sweet spot between the reform of the Mass and the introduction of Communion in the hand. I wish it were more common today.
(I find it astonishingly ludicrous that a practice that is always and everywhere permissible (intinction) is suppressed so as not to interfere with a practice which is permitted only by indult, and which may be withdrawn in particular circumstance (administration in the hand) 🤷‍♂️ ) 2️⃣ ©️ ©️
 
Our EMHC (extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion) are taught to cover the Chalice with our hand if someone tried to dip.

If they are doing it for hygiene reasons, they could realize that they are contaminating the Chalice with wheat. Not good for those that can’t have it.
 
The plate is usually called a “communion-plate” or “communion plate”.

From the General Instruction of the Roman Missal:

“287. If Communion from the chalice is carried out by intinction, each communicant, holding a Communion-plate under the mouth, approaches the Priest who holds a vessel with the sacred particles, with a minister standing at his side and holding the chalice.”

From Holy Communion and the Worship of the Eucharist Outside of Mass:

“19. When communion is given in a church or oratory, a corporal is to be placed on the altar, which is already covered with a cloth. A communion plate is to be used.”

The Latin word is patina. The sentence “A communion plate is to be used.” is a translation of “Patina adhibeatur.”

I believe that self intinction is permitted for bishops and priests, if they are concelebrants. But it is not permitted for deacons or lay people. This belief is based on the 1975 General Instruction of the Roman Missal, (as published in Documents of the Liturgy 1963 – 1979 by Liturgical Press, in 1982, n. 1596):

“206. If the concelebrants receive communion by intinction, the principal celebrant receives the body and blood of the Lord in the usual way, making sure that enough remains in the chalice for their communion. Then the deacon or one of the concelebrants arranges the paten with the eucharistic bread and the chalice conveniently in the center of the altar or at the right side on another corporal. The concelebrants approach the altar one by one, genuflect, and take a particle, dip part of it into the chalice, and, holding a paten under their chin, communicate. Afterward they return to their places as at the beginning of Mass.

The deacon receives communion also by intinction and to the concelebrant’s words: The body and blood of Christ, makes the response: Amen. At the altar the deacon drinks all that remains in the chalice, takes it to the side table and there he or the acolyte purifies and dries it, then arranges it in the usual way.”

Here I think “holding a paten under their chin” would be referring to a communion plate. But I do not have a copy of the Latin text with me to be sure that it has “patina”.

The 2004 Instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum has: “[104.] The communicant must not be permitted to intinct the host himself in the chalice, nor to receive the intincted host in the hand.”

The 1975 General Instruction of the Roman Missal described intinction by a priest on his own in 247. Two methods are described. Holding the paten and chalice in one hand. Having a small table with a cloth and corporal with the chalice or ciborium placed on it.

Continued below …

[Excerpts from the English translation of The Roman Missal © 2010 International Commission on English in the Liturgy Corporation, ICEL. Excerpts from the English translation of The Roman Missal © 1975, ICEL. Excerpts from the English translation of Holy Communion and the Worship of the Eucharist Outside of Mass © 1974, ICEL. All rights reserved.]
 
Two groups I can see having a problem with it:

A - Those with gluten sensitivity (including celiac disease)
B - Alcoholics
 
Possibly, if people who see something out of the norm don’t immediately go into “you aren’t reverent enough” mode. Can someone with more knowledge of Eastern Catholic practice enlighten us on how these sorts of situations are handled? @dochawk for example?
 
Our EMHC (extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion) are taught to cover the Chalice with our hand if someone tried to dip.

If they are doing it for hygiene reasons, they could realize that they are contaminating the Chalice with wheat. Not good for those that can’t have it.
Yes, that’s very true. Fortunately in our parish, we keep a good supply of low-gluten altar breads. I take your point, though a coeliac sufferer might want to receive from the chalice as well as receiving the Host, and might not realise the risk of contamination. I do know of two parishioners who used to side step and go direct to the chalice, but I haven’t seen that done for a while. Perhaps one day the chalice they approached was the one that the celebrant had put a fragment in and so that alarmed them.
 
Two groups I can see having a problem with it:

A - Those with gluten sensitivity (including celiac disease)
B - Alcoholics
Honestly they can be solved by having one line where Holy Communion is offered under seperate species.
 
Our EMHC (extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion) are taught to cover the Chalice with our hand if someone tried to dip.

If they are doing it for hygiene reasons, they could realize that they are contaminating the Chalice with wheat. Not good for those that can’t have it.
This is the same instruction giving to the EMHCs at my church.
 
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Seems like adding complexity to me. Under the current (US) system, the only issues are using gluten free hosts for specific individuals and maybe limiting distribution of the Precious Blood during flu season.

ETA: Just seems simpler.
 
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